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Why This Evangelical Supports Fred Thompson

Posted by ilja, Sep 27 2007, 10:43 PM in Politics

I tend to agree with one of our local talk show hosts who recently stated that while Rudy might be able to fool enough people during the primaries that he isn't all that liberal, you can bet when he goes up against Hillary she is going to make sure everybody knows his dirty little secret that most of the media including Fox News is trying to white-wash.

I am what is known as a Social Conservative. I voted for President George W. Bush twice and do not regret either vote even though he has disappointed me and even though I knew prior to both of my votes that he wasn't really all that Conservative.

I have a set of standards when it comes to deciding for whom to vote and while I consider abortion the slavery and Holocaust of our time, I care about other issues as well especially considering that we were attacked on September 11th, 2001. You see I have not forgotten.

I have a line that I will not cross when it comes to who can earn my vote and that line is someone who thinks it is okay to take the life of an innocent unborn baby. Therefore, Rudy Giuliani will not be getting my vote even if he does end up winning the Republican Presidential nomination.

I've been accused for ages now of being a one-issue voter because I will not cross this line but the truth be told, I care about a lot of different issues which is why even though Sam Brownback might be really strong on issues that concern most Social Conservatives, I never even considered supporting him seeing as he is weak on National Defense.

I've been told by other Social Conservatives that I should be supporting Mike Huckabee since after all he is a "real" Christian who attends Church regularly (of course he is a Pastor) and is for the Marriage Amendment declaring marriage to be between one man and one woman. I have also been told that there are certain issues that Christians should not compromise on and it was impllied that this is one of them.

Yet no one stops to explain just how this Amendment is going to be passed seeing as it can't even be brought up as a resolution since there is not enough support. It's not like adding an Amendment to the Constitution is done every day. It takes two-thirds of both houses of Congress to pass a resolution calling for an Amendment. Then it must be ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the States.

Either that or two-thirds of the States must vote to call for a convention where Constitutional Amendments can be proposed which would still require ratification by the legislatures of three-fourths of the States. This second option has actually never happened.

So I am suppose to use the support of this particular Marriage Amendment (which I do personally happen to like) as a litmus test for deciding which candidate I should support if I am being a "real" Christian? If I were to hold out for any Amendment it would be one to protect the lives of innocent unborn babies and even I, the queen of Naive don't have glasses that rosy.

Plus another issue that is important to me is illegal immigration and I'm afraid that I do not trust Mike Huckabee on this issue. He has tried to explain certain statements he has made about this issue but still the fact that he made them in the first place has me more than a little uneasy.

But the main reason I can't support Mike Huckabee is because barring some unforeseen circumstances he doesn't have a prayer of a chance in winning the Republican Presidential nomination and thanks to the media making Rudy Giuliani "America's Mayor" I don't have the luxury of being able to play around with my primary vote. You see people often say that it is in the primaries where you should support someone who is closest to your own views and then when it comes to the general election, you can vote for the lesser of the two evils.

Yet if the polls are correct and all of us Social Conservatives split our votes between the Conservative candidates then Rudy is naturally going to win the Republican nomination. The way I look at it is either I need to compromise a little now or I will have to compromise a lot later and I have no intention of voting for a Democrat-lite, thank you very much.

I keep hearing Social Conservatives say that they must stick to their guns and vote for a particular candidate in the primaries even though they acknowledge their candidate is not viable but then they will say that they will vote for Rudy if he ends up winning the nomination. This does not compute in my simple mind. Why would you want to support someone who doesn't have a chance knowing that if you do the option of having to vote for someone who is so totally anathema to your beliefs will be your ultimate decision?

Besides, Fred Thompson even has a set of principles upon which he makes his decisions and it appears to me that these principles are the closest to our founding fathers than all of the other candidates put together.

I don't know about you but I want America back. I believe Fred Thompson is the only one who has a chance of taking us there.

Elusively yours,
ilja



Comments

  leftcoast, right winger, Sep 27 2007, 11:39 PM

On religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God's name on one's behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both.
I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in "A," "B," "C" and "D." Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me?
And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of "conservatism."

Barry Goldwater
Speech in the US Senate (16 September 1981)


Something you might want to think about.

  visualjohn, Sep 28 2007, 08:56 AM

I respect your views Ilja....however I feel they are misguided.
I support a woman's right to her own body. Abortions are legal in this country.

I also think that you should have more respect for the Constitution.

I wouldn't try and re-write your bible to add more gay's and lesbians into the saint list!

This post has been edited by visualjohn: Sep 28 2007, 08:57 AM

  USNJIMRET, Sep 28 2007, 09:32 AM

Religious voters scare the hell out of me!!
Those who put their religious values, all or one of them, above all else, are no different then some muslims, who put their religious values, all or one of them, above all else.
They just claim to have a less restrictive view of opposing religious values.
As for abortion. You are either for it or against it. (OK, I'd allow that there are some circumstances when you can have a little wiggle room. Rape, incest, health threat to the mom).
I don't believe any politician who claims to be personally opposed to something, but willing to "go along" if elected. Go along with what? This week's push poll? This months junk science "proof"?
Either a candidate has core values, and has demonstrated them, or they are just a politician. Willing and ready to flip, then flop, then 'nuance' and be all things to all people all the time.
Politician, one of the longer four letters words in the English Language.

  Guest_Old_Mil_*, Sep 29 2007, 02:32 AM

The only god that most of our current crop of politicians worship is power. The only thing about the United States most of them love is its currency.

That goes for Fred (I think illegals should have a path to citizenship) Thompson as well.

  Eddie Gibson, Sep 29 2007, 10:24 AM

QUOTE(visualjohn @ Sep 28 2007, 08:56 AM)
I respect your views Ilja....however I feel they are misguided.
I support a woman's right to her own body. Abortions are legal in this country.

I also think that you should have more respect for the Constitution.

I wouldn't try and re-write your bible to add more gay's and lesbians into the saint list!


Just out of curiosity, visualjohn, which part of a woman's body is being killed during an abortion. I submit to you that it is a child's body, not the woman's. Ilja, Thompson is also my choice in the primaries, however if there is someone nominated that I do not care for as much, I am inclined to vote for the "lesser of two evils" over someone like Hillary or Obama.

  CarolA1222, Sep 29 2007, 09:32 PM

This country was built on a belief of religious freedom because of persecutions in other countries of the world. I don't think its belief in God thats the danger in this country I think its the lack of it. (IMG:http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/twocents.gif) I would not call myself a particularly a religious person although I do believe it god. I happen to want Him my life.

I agree with Ilja, Fred Thompson is the man I'd like to see as President of this great country.

I also believe that there is room for everybody to have opinions its what makes this Country great. (IMG:http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif)

  Mad Jack, Sep 30 2007, 01:59 PM

Good job Ilja, you have every right to vote for whomever you want for WHATEVER REASON you want. Others here would do well to remember that.

  ilja, Sep 30 2007, 05:20 PM

QUOTE(leftcoast, right winger @ Sep 27 2007, 11:39 PM)
On religious issues there can be little or no compromise. There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being. But like any powerful weapon, the use of God's name on one's behalf should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom. They are trying to force government leaders into following their position 100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of money or votes or both.
I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in "A," "B," "C" and "D." Just who do they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the right to dictate their moral beliefs to me?
And I am even more angry as a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of "conservatism."

Barry Goldwater
Speech in the US Senate (16 September 1981)


Something you might want to think about.

I see it quite differently than yourself LCRW and if your quote is any reprentation of Goldwater then I see it differently than him too. I don't believe that simply because a group is organized because of their religious affiliation that should make them less able to participate in this great Republic of ours than any other group affiliated by any other similarity.

Imagine your same post but instead of inserting religion, you substituted that word with a particular race, ethnicity or gender. How would it sound to you then?

Rather you or others like it or not, religion in particularly Christianity had a much greater influence on how this country was formed than any other belief system.

As for a religious leader being a moral leader, who do you think should be one instead? Simply because someone says something that makes you uncomfortable that doesn't mean that they should have to quit saying it.

It's funny how this conversation has turned out because it's almost a tangent of what I had hoped this would be about. (IMG:http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/erst060.gif)

  ilja, Sep 30 2007, 05:26 PM

QUOTE(visualjohn @ Sep 28 2007, 08:56 AM)
I respect your views Ilja....however I feel they are misguided.
I support a woman's right to her own body. Abortions are legal in this country.

I also think that you should have more respect for the Constitution.

I wouldn't try and re-write your bible to add more gay's and lesbians into the saint list!

I appreciate you saying that VisualJohn, the respect part not the misguided part. (IMG:http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/Giggles.gif)

Simply because something is legal that doesn't mean it is right. As someone else mentioned earlier it is not the woman's body that is destroyed by an abortion but the baby's.

I don't see where anything I said is disrespectful towards the Constitution. Would you care to point it out to me?

I'm not trying to rewrite the Constitution as much as I'm trying to keep the Judges from legislating from the bench what our country has always considered the norm for marriage. It is those who are for Gay marriage who are trying to circumvent the Constitution by going through activist Judges.

Though I disagree with you vehemently, I'm still glad you posted in my Blog VisualJohn. I look forward to hearing more from you.

  ilja, Sep 30 2007, 06:24 PM

QUOTE(USNJIMRET @ Sep 28 2007, 09:32 AM)
Religious voters scare the hell out of me!!
Those who put their religious values, all or one of them, above all else, are no different then some muslims, who put their religious values, all or one of them, above all else.
They just claim to have a less restrictive view of opposing religious values.
As for abortion. You are either for it or against it. (OK, I'd allow that there are some circumstances when you can have a little wiggle room. Rape, incest, health threat to the mom).
I don't believe any politician who claims to be personally opposed to something, but willing to "go along" if elected. Go along with what? This week's push poll? This months junk science "proof"?
Either a candidate has core values, and has demonstrated them, or they are just a politician. Willing and ready to flip, then flop, then 'nuance' and be all things to all people all the time.
Politician, one of the longer four letters words in the English Language.

Do I scare you USNJIMRET? My God comes before my country and He is even suppose to come before my family. My faith teaches that you are suppose to follow the law of the land unless it goes against the teachings of God. Does that scare you?

I agree with you on not believing any politician that claims to be personally against something but goes along to get along.

Did you notice the irony of your positions on both of the issues I just mentioned? You say that you are scared to death of someone who puts his religious beliefs above all others but then you say that you don't like someone who says that they are personally against something but go along to get elected.

Where do you think most people's core values originate? Do you believe that man is inherently good? (IMG:http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

  ilja, Sep 30 2007, 06:26 PM

QUOTE(Guest_Old_Mil_* @ Sep 29 2007, 02:32 AM)
The only god that most of our current crop of politicians worship is power. The only thing about the United States most of them love is its currency.

That goes for Fred (I think illegals should have a path to citizenship) Thompson as well.

Hi Guest_Old_Mil! (IMG:http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif) Welcome to Elusively Yours.

Would you care to provide a link showing where Thompson made that statement so I can check it out for myself?

  ilja, Sep 30 2007, 06:28 PM

QUOTE(Eddie Gibson @ Sep 29 2007, 10:24 AM)
QUOTE(visualjohn @ Sep 28 2007, 08:56 AM)
I respect your views Ilja....however I feel they are misguided.
I support a woman's right to her own body. Abortions are legal in this country.

I also think that you should have more respect for the Constitution.

I wouldn't try and re-write your bible to add more gay's and lesbians into the saint list!


Just out of curiosity, visualjohn, which part of a woman's body is being killed during an abortion. I submit to you that it is a child's body, not the woman's. Ilja, Thompson is also my choice in the primaries, however if there is someone nominated that I do not care for as much, I am inclined to vote for the "lesser of two evils" over someone like Hillary or Obama.

I'm glad to hear that you too are supporting Thompson, Eddie. (IMG:http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r315/elusivelyyours/smilies%205/yesssmileyf.gif)

I understand your desire to vote for the lesser of two evils. Most people will probably agree with you. I use to but have recently decided differently.

  ilja, Sep 30 2007, 06:32 PM

QUOTE(CarolA1222 @ Sep 29 2007, 09:32 PM)
This country was built on a belief of religious freedom because of persecutions in other countries of the world. I don't think its belief in God thats the danger in this country I think its the lack of it. (IMG:http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/twocents.gif) I would not call myself a particularly a religious person although I do believe it god. I happen to want Him my life.

I agree with Ilja, Fred Thompson is the man I'd like to see as President of this great country.

I also believe that there is room for everybody to have opinions its what makes this Country great. (IMG:http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/salute.gif)

You're not going to get any argument from me on that post Carol. (IMG:http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r315/elusivelyyours/Smilies%204/JC_Hi5-1.gif)

  ilja, Sep 30 2007, 06:36 PM

QUOTE(Mad Jack @ Sep 30 2007, 01:59 PM)
Good job Ilja, you have every right to vote for whomever you want for WHATEVER REASON you want. Others here would do well to remember that.

Thank you Sweet Jack. (IMG:http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r315/elusivelyyours/smilies/give_rose.gif) You always know just what to say.

  leftcoast, right winger, Sep 30 2007, 10:35 PM

So then if some religious leader has a revelation that (insert name) is a tool of Satan politicians should obey him and his followers no matter how many others may disagree? Is it right for some group to impose their personal agenda on society because their deity tells them that only their position is the "truth"? I believe that we all have free will, and that if we truly allow ourselves to be guided by the Holy Spirit in our readings and translations that we are able to form our own views in accordance with G-D's will. Groups are free to offer their opinions on things, but not to dictate to others the "proper" course of action.

  ilja, Oct 1 2007, 12:01 AM

QUOTE(leftcoast, right winger @ Sep 30 2007, 10:35 PM)
So then if some religious leader has a revelation that (insert name) is a tool of Satan politicians should obey him and his followers no matter how many others may disagree? Is it right for some group to impose their personal agenda on society because their deity tells them that only their position is the "truth"? I believe that we all have free will, and that if we truly allow ourselves to be guided by the Holy Spirit in our readings and translations that we are able to form our own views in accordance with G-D's will. Groups are free to offer their opinions on things, but not to dictate to others the "proper" course of action.

I'm not quite sure I understand what you are saying but I don't think politicians or anyone should obey a religious leader as if he is the master and they are the slaves. Shoot, I even disagree with my own Senior Pastor at times and have been taught by him that we should weigh everything he says against the Word of God since he is human too and subject to mistake.

I don't see how a group of people who have formed their group because of their religious beliefs should be treated any differently than any other type of group formed for any other reason.

There's a big difference between saying that one's religious beliefs should be made into law verbatum and that one is influenced by their faith to fight for a particular cause by supporting certain candidates or certain legislation.

  leftcoast, right winger, Oct 1 2007, 12:44 AM

QUOTE(ilja @ Sep 30 2007, 10:01 PM)
QUOTE(leftcoast, right winger @ Sep 30 2007, 10:35 PM)
So then if some religious leader has a revelation that (insert name) is a tool of Satan politicians should obey him and his followers no matter how many others may disagree? Is it right for some group to impose their personal agenda on society because their deity tells them that only their position is the "truth"? I believe that we all have free will, and that if we truly allow ourselves to be guided by the Holy Spirit in our readings and translations that we are able to form our own views in accordance with G-D's will. Groups are free to offer their opinions on things, but not to dictate to others the "proper" course of action.

I'm not quite sure I understand what you are saying but I don't think politicians or anyone should obey a religious leader as if he is the master and they are the slaves. Shoot, I even disagree with my own Senior Pastor at times and have been taught by him that we should weigh everything he says against the Word of God since he is human too and subject to mistake.

I don't see how a group of people who have formed their group because of their religious beliefs should be treated any differently than any other type of group formed for any other reason.

There's a big difference between saying that one's religious beliefs should be made into law verbatum and that one is influenced by their faith to fight for a particular cause by supporting certain candidates or certain legislation.


I think we are both on the same page only expressing it differently. (And you're gonna burn for daring to disagree with the pastor! (IMG:http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/Victim.gif) )






j/k about the burning!

  ilja, Oct 1 2007, 08:02 PM

QUOTE(leftcoast, right winger @ Oct 1 2007, 12:44 AM)
QUOTE(ilja @ Sep 30 2007, 10:01 PM)
QUOTE(leftcoast, right winger @ Sep 30 2007, 10:35 PM)
So then if some religious leader has a revelation that (insert name) is a tool of Satan politicians should obey him and his followers no matter how many others may disagree? Is it right for some group to impose their personal agenda on society because their deity tells them that only their position is the "truth"? I believe that we all have free will, and that if we truly allow ourselves to be guided by the Holy Spirit in our readings and translations that we are able to form our own views in accordance with G-D's will. Groups are free to offer their opinions on things, but not to dictate to others the "proper" course of action.

I'm not quite sure I understand what you are saying but I don't think politicians or anyone should obey a religious leader as if he is the master and they are the slaves. Shoot, I even disagree with my own Senior Pastor at times and have been taught by him that we should weigh everything he says against the Word of God since he is human too and subject to mistake.

I don't see how a group of people who have formed their group because of their religious beliefs should be treated any differently than any other type of group formed for any other reason.

There's a big difference between saying that one's religious beliefs should be made into law verbatum and that one is influenced by their faith to fight for a particular cause by supporting certain candidates or certain legislation.


I think we are both on the same page only expressing it differently. (And you're gonna burn for daring to disagree with the pastor! (IMG:http://www.rightnation.us/forums/style_emoticons/default/Victim.gif) )
j/k about the burning!

And here I was afraid to read this all day because I thought you were wanting to fight. (IMG:http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r315/elusivelyyours/smilies%203/bible.gif)



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Three men married wives from different states.

The first man married a woman from Washington . He told her that she was to do the dishes and house cleaning. It took a couple of days, but on the third day, he came home to see a clean house and dishes washed and put away.

The second man married a woman from Wyoming . He gave his wife orders that she was to do all the cleaning, dishes and the cooking. The first day he didn't see any results, but the next day he saw it was better. By the third day, he saw his house was clean, the dishes were done and there was a huge dinner on the table.

The third man married a girl from Tennessee. He ordered her to keep the house cleaned, dishes washed, lawn mowed, laundry washed, and hot meals on the table for every meal. He said the first day he didn't see anything, the second day he didn't see anything, but by the third day, some of the puffiness had gone down and he could see a little out of his left eye, and his arm was healed enough that he could fix himself a sandwich and load the dishwasher.

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“If four people showed up, that’s OK with me,” said Keith Maupin, the soldier’s father, as he took a mid-afternoon break outside the Civic Center, where many came up to him to shake his hand or give him a hug . . .

Matt Maupin became the face of the war in Iraq for thousands here and across the country in April 2004, when an Arab TV station aired a tape showing the Union Township soldier kneeling and surrounded by masked men carrying automatic rifles . . .

Four years and millions of prayers later, a tip from an Iraqi citizen led U.S. soldiers to the farm area northwest of Baghdad where Matt Maupin’s remains were found on March 20 . . .

Scoutmaster David Bacon said the boys of Troop 511 had been well aware of the story of Matt Maupin and wanted to pay their own tribute.

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Never Mind the Cost

by c.m.steppe ©2001

There's a young man far from home,
Called in time of war;
Sent to defend our freedom
On some distant foreign shore.
On some distant foreign shore.

We pray You keep him safe,
We pray You keep him strong,
We pray You send him safely home ...
For he's been away so long.
For he's been away so long.

There's a young woman far from home,
Serving U.S.A. with pride.
Her every step is strong and sure,
Courage in every stride.
Courage in every stride.

We pray You keep her safe,
We pray You keep her strong,
We pray You send her safely home ...
For she's been away too long.
For she's been away too long.

Bless those who wait their safe return.
Bless those who mourn the lost.
Bless those who serve this country well,
Never mind the cost.
Never mind the cost.

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I got this in an email today and though it doesn't say who wrote it, I don't doubt these things could have happened.

'MEET ME IN THE STAIRWELL'

You say you will never forget where you were when you heard the news On September 11, 2001. Neither will I.

I was on the 110th floor in a smoke filled room with a man who called his wife to say 'Good-Bye.' I held his fingers steady as he dialed. I gave him the peace to say, 'Honey, I am not going to make it, but it is OK..I am ready to go.'

I was with his wife when he called as she fed breakfast to their children. I held her up as she tried to understand his words and as she realized he wasn't coming home that night.

I was in the stairwell of the 23rd floor when a woman cried out to Me for help. 'I have been knocking on the door of your heart for 50 years!' I said. 'Of course I will show you the way home - only believe in Me now.'

I was at the base of the building with the Priest ministering to the injured and devastated souls. I took him home to tend to his Flock in Heaven. He heard my voice and answered.

I was on all four of those planes, in every seat, with every prayer. I was with the crew as they were overtaken. I was in the very hearts of the believers there, comforting and assuring them that their faith has saved them.

I was in Texas , Virginia , California , Michigan , Afghanistan ... I was standing next to you when you heard the terrible news. Did you sense Me?

I want you to know that I saw every face. I knew every name - though not all know Me. Some met Me for the first time on the 86th floor.

Some sought Me with their last breath. Some couldn't hear Me calling to them through the smoke and flames; 'Come to Me... this way... take my hand.'

Some chose, for the final time, to ignore Me. But, I was there.

I did not place you in the Tower that day. You may not know why, but I do. However, if you were there in that explosive moment in time, would you have reached for Me?

Sept. 11, 2001, was not the end of the journey for you. But someday your journey will end. And I will be there for you as well. Seek Me now while I may be found. Then, at any moment, you know you are 'ready to go.'

I will be in the stairwell of your final moments.

God