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Posted 20 February 2019 - 08:22 PM

Trump’s Plan to Decriminalize Homosexuality Is an Old Racist Tactic
Here's why we shouldn't be cheering the Trump administration.
Out.com
By Mathew Rodriguez
February 19 2019


The Trump administration is set to launch a global campaign to decriminalize homosexuality in dozens of nations where anti-gay laws are still on the books, NBC News reported Monday. While on its surface, the move looks like an atypically benevolent decision by the Trump administration, the details of the campaign belie a different story. Rather than actually being about helping queer people around the world, the campaign looks more like another instance of the right using queer people as a pawn to amass power and enact its own agenda.

It almost goes without saying but the Trump administration does not have a great human rights record at home when it comes to LGBTQ+ issues. Advocacy group GLAAD has kept a record of the many times the administration has harmed LGBTQ+ people, from its transgender military ban to the reversal of plans to include LGBTQ people on the 2020 US census. And prior to his ill-conceived plan to address the HIV/AIDS epidemic, Trump’s administration had an abysmal record on addressing the virus.

The most telling detail of NBC News’ report is that his plan centers homophobic violence in Iran, who NBC News calls the administration’s “top geopolitical foe.” The plan has reportedly been spearheaded by the U.S. ambassador to Germany, Richard Grenell, who is also the administration’s top-ranked gay official, in response to news that a young gay man was hanged in Iran recently. Grenell has had his eyes on Iran for some time and just a week ago, he was trying to get several European nations to pass sanctions on Iran, unrelated to the country’s stance on homosexuality, to no avail.

Homosexuality has been illegal in Iran since the theocratic 1979 Islamic Revolution. By at least one Guardian account, since the exit of president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in 2013, enforcement of anti-gay laws has softened somewhat. Homosexuality, according to the writer, is an “open secret” and most queer people fear homophobic reaction from fellow citizens more than the authorities.

Grennell’s sudden interest in Iran’s anti-gay laws is strikingly similar to Trump’s rhetoric after the 2016 Pulse massacre in Orlando, Florida. After the deadly shooting, Trump used the 49 deaths as a way to galvanize support for an anti-Muslim agenda rather than find a way to support LGBTQ+ people. In pushing for immigration restrictions and a Muslim ban, Trump argued, he was the true pro-LGBTQ+ candidate. Rather than honor those who died, Trump used the tragedy as a way to stoke fear among the American people, and Grennell is taking similar actions with Iran — trying to reach an economic goal by painting the administration’s opponent as anti-gay.

“We know Trump is very focused on Iran and is looking for ways to demonize it in the public opinion and this is one area where you know the US and European countries see eye to eye on Iran,” Josh Lederman, who reported the original NBC News story, told Out in a phone interview. “So it makes for them to focus strategically on that rather than sanctions, where there’s been a big gulf between the U.S. and its allies.”

The truth is, this is part of an old colonialist handbook. In her essay, “Can the Subaltern Speak?” postcolonial theorist Gayatri Spivak coined the term “White men saving brown women from brown men” to describe the racist, paternalistic process by which colonizing powers would decry the way men in power treated oppressed groups, like women, to justify attacking them. Spivak was referencing the British colonial agenda in India. But Grennell’s attack might be a case of white men trying to save brown gay men from brown straight men, to the same end.

There are several signs that this decision is denoted in a colonial sense of paternalism rather than any true altruism. According to the report, the decriminalization campaign is set to begin in Berlin where LGBTQ+ activists from across Europe will meet to hatch a plan that is “mostly concentrated in the Middle East, Africa, and the Caribbean.”

That sentence alone should set off several alarm bells. First of all, the Middle East, Africa, and the Caribbean are huge geopolitical entities. Attitudes toward gay people differ greatly among countries and regions within those entities and attempting to gather a room of European activists on how to deal with queer issues in those regions is the definition of paternalism.

According to Lederman, the names of the activists attending the dinner, scheduled for Tuesday night in Berlin, are not yet known, but they hail from a dozen European countries, including countries from Eastern and Central Europe, where legal protections for LGBTQ+ people are weaker than in Western Europe. The names of the activists are being concealed as some are not ready to be identified publicly.

Lederman says that the sentiment on the ground is that the initiative is “very much a work in progress” and that they made the announcement while “there’s still a lot of strategy being worked out.” However, Lederman did confirm that as of right now, activists from countries in the regions being discussed — from Africa, the Middle East, and the Caribbean — are not currently being brought to the discussion table.

“They’re not sure what it’s going to look like as it gets fleshed out,” and while he says they could possibly invite people from affected regions “at a future date,” he says right now they’re still working out details.

Lederman plans to sit down with Grennell as well as several activists who attended the dinner meeting in Berlin for an interview that will air on MSNBC at a later date.

Though plans may or may not exist to invite local LGBTQ+ advocacy groups to the table, that they are not there at the plan’s inception is dangerous. Inviting European activists to solve problems in the Middle East, African or the Caribbean — which, once again, are not monolithic in the slightest — is a toothless effort, more PR than progressive.


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Posted 20 February 2019 - 09:26 PM

Butthurt, much?

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Posted 20 February 2019 - 09:31 PM

Same online magazine has another article titled: "Bernie Sanders Bravely Asks Us to Consider a Straight President"

Pandering Bernie = brave.
Trump going after homosexual-killing Muslims = still homophobic, and racist.

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Posted 20 February 2019 - 09:33 PM

Trump: "Ok then, I won't work to decriminalize homosexuality"

Same author: "You hate gays!" :tantrum:





the man can't win with these people

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Posted 20 February 2019 - 11:35 PM

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Advocacy group GLAAD has kept a record of the many times the administration has harmed LGBTQ+ people


And their objectivity is rock solid, right? :coolshades:
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 01:46 AM

Oh, good GAWD.



THIS IS HOW YOU GOT TRUMP, MORONS!
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 04:38 AM

Now we know why the Onion is struggling financially. Too much competition.
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 05:41 AM

View Posterp, on 21 February 2019 - 04:38 AM, said:

Now we know why the Onion is struggling financially. Too much competition.

Ain't it the truth!
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 06:31 AM

View PostGrimV, on 21 February 2019 - 01:46 AM, said:

Oh, good GAWD.



THIS IS HOW YOU GOT TRUMP, MORONS!

Amazing, isn't it?!?
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 08:04 AM

#Fake News

View PostCensport, on 20 February 2019 - 09:31 PM, said:

Same online magazine has another article titled: "Bernie Sanders Bravely Asks Us to Consider a Straight President"

Pandering Bernie = brave.
Trump going after homosexual-killing Muslims = still homophobic, and racist.

:nuts:



Go figure.
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 08:15 AM

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Rather than actually being about helping queer people around the world, the campaign looks more like another instance of the right using queer people as a pawn to amass power and enact its own agenda.

Ohhhh I get it, here's the "racism", Trump plans to do what us leftists have been doing for the past 100 years. He's taking our issues away from us so he can push an individual rights mandate instead of a collectivist agenda! How dare he!

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Advocacy group GLAAD has kept a record of the many times the administration has harmed LGBTQ+ people, from its transgender military ban to the reversal of plans to include LGBTQ people on the 2020 US census.

The military is required to maintain good order and discipline, if you believe your individuality is more important than the uniformity of the military then you are not acting as required to be in the military and thus you should be booted FROM the military. I would LOVE to sport purple hair, I love anime and the color purple, but both my wife and the military frown on that thus I did not get to dye my hair purple back then nor do I get to do it now. I have to conform to be accepted with the people I care about and wanted to serve.

How is the President "excluding" the gay community in the upcoming census. Was there an order not to count them? Does it matter if they are counted as one of 51 other genders? Nope the important thing for the census is not "virtue signalling" it is important that American citizens are counted properly so that we can properly apportion the Congress and the Electoral College. So counting individuals is important, not signalling one's virtue to identify as a "potted fern of asexual values and normative with animal sexuality of the canine variety"

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By at least one Guardian account, since the exit of president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in 2013, enforcement of anti-gay laws has softened somewhat. Homosexuality, according to the writer, is an “open secret” and most queer people fear homophobic reaction from fellow citizens more than the authorities.

Interesting this rag is basically against Trump, they can't stand that this islamic nation murders gays, but hey, Mahmoud stopped throwing them off buildings in superman suits and instead just imprisons them or executes them quietly. Sorry "softening" does not mean that there is an acceptance. So they are happy in general with how the US was in the 1970's and 80's where gay men were ostracized by the people around them but ignored by the authorities? Sorry that's hardly "progressive" of these children of the corn......


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There are several signs that this decision is denoted in a colonial sense of paternalism rather than any true altruism. According to the report, the decriminalization campaign is set to begin in Berlin where LGBTQ+ activists from across Europe will meet to hatch a plan that is “mostly concentrated in the Middle East, Africa, and the Caribbean.”

That sentence alone should set off several alarm bells. First of all, the Middle East, Africa, and the Caribbean are huge geopolitical entities. Attitudes toward gay people differ greatly among countries and regions within those entities and attempting to gather a room of European activists on how to deal with queer issues in those regions is the definition of paternalism.



This sentence should set off alarm bells? Where else are gay people being murdered for their sexuality? Do we still kill them in the US or Canada? Do we see them strung up or imprisoned in Asia or Europe? Nope only place left is the middle east, africa and some caribbean states (cuba for instance). Elsewhere around the world gay men or women can be seen walking down the streets hand in hand and not being arrested on the spot by morality police (well maybe not in dearborn Michigan).


In the end it appears the marxists are just afraid that something WILL BE DONE, plans of action that work, not endless huffing up and down a news paper article and bitching while other people die.



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Posted 21 February 2019 - 08:21 AM

View PostGrimV, on 21 February 2019 - 01:46 AM, said:

Oh, good GAWD.



THIS IS HOW YOU GOT TRUMP, MORONS!

I love that they have ZERO self-awareness. It makes me dance.

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 09:30 AM

View PostLori, on 21 February 2019 - 08:21 AM, said:

I love that they have ZERO self-awareness. It makes me dance.

:banana: :chili: :snoopydance: :happydance:



They are only aware of what is between their legs. Apparently, nothing else matters.
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 10:48 AM

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And prior to his ill-conceived plan to address the HIV/AIDS epidemic, Trump’s administration had an abysmal record on addressing the virus.

Nowhere near as abysmal as the homosexual community itself.

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 11:47 AM

I saw on yahoo this morning that they're trying a new tact. Now they're saying that Trump has nothing to do with this, and didn't even know his administration was doing it.
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 12:06 PM

First off, I stopped reading the article at the headline. Why? Because he throws out "racist" when talking about homosexuality. That tells me the author of said article isn't very intelligent to begin with.
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 01:51 PM

View PostDJGoody, on 21 February 2019 - 09:30 AM, said:

They are only aware of what is between their legs. Apparently, nothing else matters.


Naw, they can't even figure that out. If they could, there wouldn't be so much confusion about who uses which bathroom, there wouldn't be any forms that asked "Gender? __ Male, __ Female, __ Other..." and so forth.

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 02:14 PM

View PostLori, on 21 February 2019 - 08:21 AM, said:

I love that they have ZERO self-awareness. It makes me dance.

:banana: :chili: :snoopydance: :happydance:


Which one is you?

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 02:56 PM

I'm not going to take the time to vivisect this article sentence-by-sentence.

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Transgender ban

My understanding is that transgenders were enlisting then immediately opting for transitional therapy and surgery while on active duty. The military spends tens sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars to prepare an enlistee for a job. A job that requires mobilization at a moment's notice. Trump's order is based on pragmatism not transgenderism or homophobia. Can't wait until you are discharged? Don't like it? Don't volunteer.

HIV/AIDS

Harsh reality. Medicine and culture have made huge strides in the prevention and treatment of these diseases. I agree that treatment is expensive. However, HIV/AIDS have become "manageable" to the point that people go on to live decades after initial diagnosis. The regimens are akin to chemotherapy for cancer. That is, while HIV/AIDS are terminal, science better understands the diseases. They are not mysterious green monkey diseases. The race for the cure runs alongside that of lung and heart disease. Sorry to take away your rainbow card.


The Pulse Massacre

Nothing Trump could have said or done would have been acceptable. He was immediately in a lose-lose situation. If Trump had shown up for a memorial service, you a-holes would have made it about him, not the terrorist, not the victims.

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