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#1 User is offline   Liz 

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  Posted 22 February 2019 - 10:36 AM

DOJ Planned A Coup Against Trump — And The Press Doesn’t Care

The Daily Caller
Victoria Toensing | Contributor
4:15 PM 02/21/2019

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Andrew McCabe and Rod Rosenstein, along with other Department of Justice (DOJ) officials, plotted a political assassination of President Trump. Listen closely so you can hear the mainstream media’s crickets.

Former FBI acting Director McCabe confessed on 60 Minutes and elsewhere that he and Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein discussed ousting the president in May 2017, even going so far as contemplating Rosenstein’s wearing a wire to capture the words of the president regarding his reason for firing Comey. Their weapon for ousting the duly elected president: the 25th Amendment to the Constitution.

The limited media comments expose a dreadful ignorance of the law. A collective ho-hum was the response to McCabe’s claim that Trump’s firing Comey triggered the investigation. Some commentators, such as CNN’s Jeffrey Toobin, even claim to have a law degree. They must have skipped constitutional law class. The president has Article II authority to fire anyone in the executive branch for any reason or for no reason. Whatever President Trump stated regarding his firing of Comey — and he has provided numerous reasons — has no legal significance whatsoever.

Worse, the media seem unable to comprehend the plain meaning of the 25th Amendment, which has three purposes. First, to designate who succeeds the president in case of death or resignation, which is clearly not at issue here. The second, to provide the process of succession when the president “transmits” in writing to the House and Senate that he “is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office,” is also irrelevant.

The third purpose provides a process for removing the president when the “vice-president and a majority” of the Cabinet deem the president “unable to discharge his powers and duties.” Its history reflects the framers’ desire to address the type of concerns that arose when President Woodrow Wilson suffered a stroke or when President Ronald Reagan was wounded in an assassination attempt. It has nothing to do with a president’s intent for firing personnel.

“Any Justice Department official who even mentioned the 25th Amendment in the context of President Trump has committed a grievous offense against the Constitution,” asserted former Harvard Law School professor (and Clinton supporter) Alan Dershowitz while pointing out that the 25th Amendment is not a constitutionally-valid substitute for impeachment.

“Trying to use the 25th Amendment to circumvent impeachment provisions or to circumvent an election is a despicable act of unconstitutional power-grabbing,” he added, describing the plot as “an attempt at a coup d’etat.”

That view isn’t shared by Toobin, whose ability to analyze the law correctly is hampered by his hatred of Trump. Toobin praised the aborted plot to oust the president as “patriotic.” Ignoring the misdeeds of former Obama appointees John Brennan, Jim Clapper, and Sally Yates in framing candidate Trump with the fake dossier, Toobin gives plotters McCabe and Rosenstein a pass because they were not “Democratic political appointees.”

A Washington Post reporter, Philip Bump, whose degree is in philosophy, should not be opining about the law or constitution. But he did, writing that the president should not complain because the plot would have likely failed.

There is a reason conspiracies to violate the law are illegal. It is to convict persons when the crime does not come to fruition. One does not have to have a legal background to understand the 25th Amendment — any journalist should be able to do so. Not Bump. He considers removing Trump by misusing (my word not his) the 25th Amendment no different from voting for someone else in 2020.

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 10:48 AM

Of course they don't care.

They're all in on it.
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Posted 22 February 2019 - 10:52 AM

View PostLiz, on 22 February 2019 - 10:36 AM, said:

DOJ Planned A Coup Against Trump — And The Press Doesn’t Care

The Daily Caller
Victoria Toensing | Contributor
4:15 PM 02/21/2019

Excerpt:

The president has Article II authority to fire anyone in the executive branch for any reason or for no reason.


Unless, of course, he does so with corrupt intent.
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Posted 22 February 2019 - 11:09 AM

View PostThat_Guy, on 22 February 2019 - 10:52 AM, said:

Unless, of course, he does so with corrupt intent.


Unfortunately for you, there would have to be some sort of evidence of "corrupt intent", and there isn't.

:comfort:
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Posted 22 February 2019 - 11:09 AM

View PostThat_Guy, on 22 February 2019 - 10:52 AM, said:

Unless, of course, he does so with corrupt intent.




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Posted 22 February 2019 - 11:14 AM

View PostThat_Guy, on 22 February 2019 - 10:52 AM, said:

Unless, of course, he does so with corrupt intent.

Legal reference? Link?
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Posted 22 February 2019 - 11:18 AM

View PostMontyPython, on 22 February 2019 - 11:09 AM, said:

Unfortunately for you, there would have to be some sort of evidence of "corrupt intent", and there isn't.

:comfort:



Evidence? Since when have the Leftist_Democrats ever needed evidence or precedent, or believed in Constitutional Law?
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Posted 22 February 2019 - 11:19 AM

View PostMontyPython, on 22 February 2019 - 11:09 AM, said:

there would have to be some sort of evidence of "corrupt intent", and there isn't.


As far as you know...
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Posted 22 February 2019 - 11:24 AM

View PostThat_Guy, on 22 February 2019 - 11:19 AM, said:

As far as you know...

What is the legal case for corrupt intent in the context? What is your case law reference? Links?
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Posted 22 February 2019 - 11:31 AM

View PostThat_Guy, on 22 February 2019 - 11:19 AM, said:

As far as you know...


Yes, me and everybody else who has been paying proper, objective, honest attention.

But by all means keep it up! Yessirree, keep convincing yourself there's some mythical "there" there, like you've been doing for the past couple years. I'll just laugh that much louder when your dreams come crashing down around you.

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 12:09 PM

View PostRock N, on 22 February 2019 - 10:48 AM, said:

Of course they don't care.

They're all in on it.


:exactly:

View PostThat_Guy, on 22 February 2019 - 10:52 AM, said:

Unless, of course, he does so with corrupt intent.


:yawn:

Corruption, your side knows it well.

View PostDJGoody, on 22 February 2019 - 11:18 AM, said:

Evidence? Since when have the Leftist_Democrats ever needed evidence or precedent, or believed in Constitutional Law?


:exactly:

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 12:10 PM

View PostMontyPython, on 22 February 2019 - 11:31 AM, said:

Yes, me and everybody else who has been paying proper, objective, honest attention.

But by all means keep it up! Yessirree, keep convincing yourself there's some mythical "there" there, like you've been doing for the past couple years. I'll just laugh that much louder when your dreams come crashing down around you.

:yes:


I should post the pissinginthewind.gif, to get him even more Triggered!
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Posted 22 February 2019 - 03:14 PM

View PostThat_Guy, on 22 February 2019 - 11:19 AM, said:

As far as you know...



Checking your Schiff notes ?
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Posted 22 February 2019 - 03:32 PM

View PostCoach, on 22 February 2019 - 03:14 PM, said:

Checking your Schiff notes ?


I am so stealing that.
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Posted 22 February 2019 - 07:50 PM

View PostCoach, on 22 February 2019 - 03:14 PM, said:

Checking your Schiff notes ?


That's what one does when one has Schiff for brains.
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Posted 22 February 2019 - 08:33 PM

View PostRock N, on 22 February 2019 - 10:48 AM, said:

Of course they don't care.

They're all in on it.

Bingo!
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Posted 22 February 2019 - 08:56 PM

McCabe admitted all this crap on national TV. Why isn't he in a jail cell?
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Posted 22 February 2019 - 09:31 PM

View PostThat_Guy, on 22 February 2019 - 10:52 AM, said:

Unless, of course, he does so with corrupt intent.

Keep a revolver handy, Hamilton. It’s gonna be a big LOSS for you.

Again.
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Posted 23 February 2019 - 04:15 AM

View PostNoclevermoniker, on 22 February 2019 - 09:31 PM, said:

Keep a revolver handy, Hamilton. It’s gonna be a big LOSS for you.

Again.

Can’t break that 100% track record of being wrong on all legal predictions.
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