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#21 User is offline   Martin 

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 04:06 PM

View Postgravelrash, on 22 May 2019 - 08:21 AM, said:

It will take a Constitutional Amendment to abolish the Electoral College. Someone should go to the ACLU to file a lawsuit against "National Popular Vote" bills. Oh, wait...


They do not intend to abolish the Electoral College, they mean to hijack it. The Constitution says that each state legislature shall choose the electors of each state. There is no Constitutional requirement that the legislature respect the majority vote in the Presidential election or that the electors vote the way the voters did. Imagine, though, the fury of, let's say, the voters of Nevada if they discover that a majority of them voted for Candidate A but a majority of the legislature ignored that and told the electors to vote for Candidate B. The supporters of Candidate B will call it a proper exercise of Constitutional authority and the supporters of Candidate A will say it make the Presidential election in their state a farce. If the latter outnumber the former, the legislators are courting electoral disaster.

To personalize it, suppose the electors of Nevada in the 2020 election ignore Trump's majority in that state and instruct their electors to vote for his opponent. I would expect that in the next legislative election the Orange Man, whether re-elected or not, would visit Nevada and invite the Nevadans to kick their incumbent state legislators so far out of office that they land in California.
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Posted 22 May 2019 - 11:32 PM

View PostMTP Reggie, on 22 May 2019 - 07:53 AM, said:

Nevada passes National Popular Vote bill in bid to upend Electoral College
Assembly Bill 186 headed to Democratic Gov. Steve Sisolak
By Valerie Richardson
The Washington Times
Wednesday, May 22, 2019

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The Nevada Senate approved Tuesday a National Popular Vote bill on a party-line vote, sending the legislation aimed at upending the Electoral College to the governor. Assembly Bill 186, which passed the Senate on a 12-8 vote, would bring Nevada into the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, an agreement between participating states to cast their electoral votes for the winner of the popular vote. If signed as expected by Democratic Gov. Steve Sisolak, Nevada would become the 16th jurisdiction to join the compact, along with 14 states and the District of Columbia. The compact would take effect after states totaling 270 electoral votes, and with Nevada, the total would reach 195.

While the effort has been billed by organizers as bipartisan, Democrats have embraced the NPV in the aftermath of President Trump's 2016 victory, which saw the Republican win the electoral vote but not the popular vote.

Leftist groups like Common Cause, Indivisible and Public Citizen cheered the Nevada vote. "The movement to abolish the electoral college is winning," tweeted Public Citizen.
The NPV would not eliminate the Electoral College, but would render it irrelevant by requiring electors to vote for the national vote-winner instead of the candidate capturing the most votes in their states.

Supporters argue that it would shift the focus of presidential elections away from a handful of swing states, while critics say it would concentrate power in states like California and New York with the largest population centers.

"If we go to a national popular vote, why would they even bother coming here? Our constitution says we're a republic, not a democracy," said Nevada Assemblyman Jim Wheeler during last month's debate. "I voted 'no' on the national popular vote because I don't want Nevada to be a flyover state."

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The smaller states dominated by democrats are surrendering their constitutionally protected power. If this ever goes into effect nationwide all future presidential elections will be decided by just three states.

Are these voters really that stupid?
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Posted 23 May 2019 - 02:06 AM

Great work from the geniuses of the Democrat party, you have just made the Nevada voters like the Colorado voters have been, and made your voters irrelevant.
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Posted 23 May 2019 - 02:18 AM

View PostBirddog, on 22 May 2019 - 11:32 PM, said:

The smaller states dominated by democrats are surrendering their constitutionally protected power. If this ever goes into effect nationwide all future presidential elections will be decided by just three states.

Are these voters really that stupid?

Yes they are that stupid because they are democraps. :shrug:
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Posted 23 May 2019 - 08:40 AM

View Postvlcreations, on 22 May 2019 - 10:58 AM, said:

I live in Colorado, one of the states that is part of the compact. According to a constitutional scholar at a local uni he says that states are prohibited by the constitution from doing such compacts. It will be challenged in courts.

And it will be...the day after a Republican wins the popular vote. They'll fight for an injunction to prohibit their state's electors to cast their vote for the popular vote winner. This will disappear faster than Jussie Smollett.
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Posted 23 May 2019 - 08:43 AM

View PostBirddog, on 22 May 2019 - 11:32 PM, said:

The smaller states dominated by democrats are surrendering their constitutionally protected power. If this ever goes into effect nationwide all future presidential elections will be decided by just three states. Are these voters really that stupid?


Not only are they that stupid, they are proud of it.
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Posted 23 May 2019 - 11:15 AM

View PostBirddog, on 22 May 2019 - 11:32 PM, said:

The smaller states dominated by democrats are surrendering their constitutionally protected power. If this ever goes into effect nationwide all future presidential elections will be decided by just three states.

Are these voters really that stupid?


Yes, they are.

They are Democraps after all.
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