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Posted 21 February 2020 - 06:07 PM

An entire classroom gets a failing grade, with apologies to anyone who's already seen this... Worth the read
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 08:06 PM

All those that 'feel the bern', especially if in college, need to read this.
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 08:47 PM

We saw same when the Occupy Wall Street soup kitchens closed because no one else would volunteer. Those who did felt overworked, underappreciated, and ultimately wanted monetary compensation. They couldn't be bothered to feed the homeless at that point.
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Posted 21 February 2020 - 11:05 PM

View Postgravelrash, on 21 February 2020 - 08:47 PM, said:

We saw same when the Occupy Wall Street soup kitchens closed because no one else would volunteer. Those who did felt overworked, underappreciated, and ultimately wanted monetary compensation. They couldn't be bothered to feed the homeless at that point.

Every aspiring socialist thinks heíll be the body in the castle instead of one of the bodies in the ditch.
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Posted 22 February 2020 - 10:32 AM

This literally happened in my oldest daughter's class in high school. Her teacher was Dr. Rainbow. (I am not kidding.) And he believed in positive peer pressure. So he announced that everyone's grade would be an average of the test results of the entire class. After she merited an A but received a C she complained to us and we made an appointment to see him. He asked that we be patient. That by the next text the "positive peer pressure" put on the student not studying would bring the average up to a B. Well, after the next text everyone in the class got a D. This time my husband and I made an appointment with the head of the department. The four of us sat there as (poor) Dr. Rainbow explained his theory. In the end, each student received the grade they had earned. And Dr. Rainbow was not teaching at the High School the next year.

I realize now we were lucky. If the administrator we talked to would have believed the same as Dr. Rainbow, she would have flunked the class--even though she aced every test.
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Posted 22 February 2020 - 11:07 AM

One of the best memes for this kind of crap I've seen is the picture of half a Bernie Sanders yard sigh, with a note on it saying "I didn't have a sign so I took half of yours, I'm sure you understand."

This crap hasn't worked ever since Jamestown and before.
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Posted 22 February 2020 - 11:42 AM

View PostWag-a-Muffin (D), on 22 February 2020 - 10:32 AM, said:

This literally happened in my oldest daughter's class in high school. Her teacher was Dr. Rainbow. (I am not kidding.) And he believed in positive peer pressure. So he announced that everyone's grade would be an average of the test results of the entire class. After she merited an A but received a C she complained to us and we made an appointment to see him. He asked that we be patient. That by the next text the "positive peer pressure" put on the student not studying would bring the average up to a B. Well, after the next text everyone in the class got a D. This time my husband and I made an appointment with the head of the department. The four of us sat there as (poor) Dr. Rainbow explained his theory. In the end, each student received the grade they had earned. And Dr. Rainbow was not teaching at the High School the next year.

I realize now we were lucky. If the administrator we talked to would have believed the same as Dr. Rainbow, she would have flunked the class--even though she aced every test.


True believers are always promising that others will comply and they will succeed, the problem is you have to sell it in such a big way that those that produce must accept in no uncertain terms the fact that they must work for all the others. Problem is that it never works, there must be a means to absolutely control the others who would slack off. In doing so you lose your personal freedom and become a member of the hive.
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Posted 22 February 2020 - 11:42 AM

View PostWag-a-Muffin (D), on 22 February 2020 - 10:32 AM, said:

This literally happened in my oldest daughter's class in high school. Her teacher was Dr. Rainbow. (I am not kidding.) And he believed in positive peer pressure. So he announced that everyone's grade would be an average of the test results of the entire class. After she merited an A but received a C she complained to us and we made an appointment to see him. He asked that we be patient. That by the next text the "positive peer pressure" put on the student not studying would bring the average up to a B. Well, after the next text everyone in the class got a D. This time my husband and I made an appointment with the head of the department. The four of us sat there as (poor) Dr. Rainbow explained his theory. In the end, each student received the grade they had earned. And Dr. Rainbow was not teaching at the High School the next year.

I realize now we were lucky. If the administrator we talked to would have believed the same as Dr. Rainbow, she would have flunked the class--even though she aced every test.

That could also have become a moment of enlightenment for Dr Rainbow. Somehow, Iím not hugely optimistic that happened. But you never know (or perhaps you do).
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Posted 22 February 2020 - 12:00 PM

View PostWag-a-Muffin (D), on 22 February 2020 - 10:32 AM, said:

This literally happened in my oldest daughter's class in high school. Her teacher was Dr. Rainbow. (I am not kidding.) And he believed in positive peer pressure. So he announced that everyone's grade would be an average of the test results of the entire class. After she merited an A but received a C she complained to us and we made an appointment to see him. He asked that we be patient. That by the next text the "positive peer pressure" put on the student not studying would bring the average up to a B. Well, after the next text everyone in the class got a D. This time my husband and I made an appointment with the head of the department. The four of us sat there as (poor) Dr. Rainbow explained his theory. In the end, each student received the grade they had earned. And Dr. Rainbow was not teaching at the High School the next year.

I realize now we were lucky. If the administrator we talked to would have believed the same as Dr. Rainbow, she would have flunked the class--even though she aced every test.

You've pretty much described to the letter the same crap that they are pulling at my work place.

Thanks to our HR department and their adopting of these HR's legal department's hiring of these crazy proggy consulting firms and their "diversity training", we've got a few screwball libtards who are making my whole department fail because these screwballs are allowed to just make up their own rules and SOJP and not follow the written company SOJP that has been followed for decades.

They fail miserably at their jobs and all of us who are doing our jobs well and by the original rules are being graded along together with these few screw ups when it comes to our evaluations and getting raises (or not). For the last two years the best operators in my department have lost most of our merit raises because of these couple of stupid lazy racist (they REALLY HATE white conservative people with a passion) screw ups. We're being evaluated as a group and not for our own individual performance and it's really pissing most of us off (even two other black employees in my department who have also lost raises thanks to the other two lefty black screwballs) and especially ME.

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Posted 22 February 2020 - 12:05 PM

View PostTaggart Transcontinental, on 22 February 2020 - 11:42 AM, said:

True believers are always promising that others will comply and they will succeed, the problem is you have to sell it in such a big way that those that produce must accept in no uncertain terms the fact that they must work for all the others. Problem is that it never works, there must be a means to absolutely control the others who would slack off. In doing so you lose your personal freedom and become a member of the hive.

And us producers are all supposed to/are expected to just sit back, STFU and have nothing negative to say back about it and we are expected to LIKE IT OR ELSE.

This crap is destroying all work ethic, especially traditional work ethic. Nothing is ever getting done right or finished and everything has been failing because there is ZERO accountability.
It's even a HUGE problem with all of our contractors and their employees as well.

You will only get in trouble if you dare to openly criticize this crazy progtarded shidt and not go along with it.

Again as I've said on other threads, this crap is being forced upon every company that there is by these proggy activist groups and their "diversity training" consultants.

If you do not hire these communists to speak to/educate your employees and adopt their "diversity" rules, your company then gets sued by these people and you will then get forced to by a court order to acquiesce. So, most HR departments everywhere are under pressure from their insurance companies to cave in and hire these proggy commies firms and adopting their crazy leftists proggy PC rules as company policy.

This is a racket, folks. A deliberate planned conspiracy to undermine and destroy the past traditional American way(s) that made us into the best nation in the world.

It needs to be exposed and then put to a STOP.

I think that I'm one of the few out there who see that this going on and who's behind it and have been getting the word out there to as many as I can on the internet.

All of you need to do the same.

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Posted 22 February 2020 - 12:10 PM

Read the comments to this post, it`s just sad.
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Posted 22 February 2020 - 12:29 PM

View PostRock N, on 22 February 2020 - 12:00 PM, said:

You've pretty much described to the letter the same crap that they are pulling at my work place.

Thanks to our HR department and their adopting of these HR's legal department's hiring of these crazy proggy consulting firms and their "diversity training", we've got a few screwball libtards who are making my whole department fail because these screwballs are allowed to just make up their own rules and SOJP and not follow the written company SOJP that has been followed for decades.

They fail miserably at their jobs and all of us who are doing our jobs well and by the original rules are being graded along together with these few screw ups when it comes to our evaluations and getting raises (or not). For the last two years the best operators in my department have lost most of our merit raises because of these couple of stupid lazy racist (they REALLY HATE white conservative people with a passion) screw ups. We're being evaluated as a group and not for our own individual performance and it's really pissing most of us off (even two other black employees in my department who have also lost raises thanks to the other two lefty black screwballs) and especially ME.

My honest opinion: look for a new job as soon as practical. If youíre very close to getting a retirement package, and leaving just doesnít make sense, then accept that youíre trapped and just ride the wave, and make plans for a better situation afterwards.
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Posted 22 February 2020 - 01:00 PM

View Postzurg, on 22 February 2020 - 12:29 PM, said:

My honest opinion: look for a new job as soon as practical. If you’re very close to getting a retirement package, and leaving just doesn’t make sense, then accept that you’re trapped and just ride the wave, and make plans for a better situation afterwards.

I've got 7 more years to go and I'll receive a full pension (that is if the state doesn't ruin it and bankrupt it by then).

There isn't anywhere else to go to that isn't adopting this same exact insane BS policy. My former employer (a family owned business) had even begun to adopt this same crap too because of their insurance company and their lawyers and it's even worse there I've been told and they're about to go bankrupt. The bigger cities here are the worst about it since they are all democrap ruled.

The only way around it that I see is to become self employed with my own business and have no other employees.

I'll just have to tough it out and/or perhaps organize my like minded co-workers to resist this crazy stupid BS and to legally fight back?

We're getting very tired of it quick.

What's also crazy about this "group" evaluation progressive crap is that it's supposed to make the group influence the screw ups to do better, but how can that ever happen when under these same rules we are not allowed to even say anything to these individuals about their failures because then they are encouraged to file grievances against anyone who says a word to them for harassment? They definitely have been doing just that. The HR department "counselors" have basically told us to leave them alone and that we're "not the boss of the room" and they have even told our supervisor the same thing.

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Posted 22 February 2020 - 01:14 PM

View PostTaggart Transcontinental, on 22 February 2020 - 11:42 AM, said:

True believers are always promising that others will comply and they will succeed, the problem is you have to sell it in such a big way that those that produce must accept in no uncertain terms the fact that they must work for all the others. Problem is that it never works, there must be a means to absolutely control the others who would slack off. In doing so you lose your personal freedom and become a member of the hive.


And that is why all Communist countries are ďpolice statesĒ. Neither socialism or communism are possible without extraordinary coercion and suppression of the population.

Producers will not have a choice.

Those that canít produce and arenít part of the ruling class have no use. For them itíll be something akin to what was described in the Gulag Archipelago. Basically the fools calling for socialism/communism will be gone within a generation and completely removed from the gene pool. They will be replaced by secret police and military police.

The average socialist is nothing more that an impudent, spoiled, lazy, ignoramus who is jealous of those who will get up off their ass and earn a living.

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Posted 22 February 2020 - 01:22 PM

View PostRock N, on 22 February 2020 - 01:00 PM, said:

I've got 7 more years to go and I'll receive a full pension (that is if the state doesn't ruin it and bankrupt it by then).

There isn't anywhere else to go to that isn't adopting this same exact insane BS policy. My former employer (a family owned business) had even begun to adopt this same crap too because of their insurance company and their lawyers and it's even worse there I've been told and they're about to go bankrupt. The bigger cities here are the worst about it since they are all democrap ruled.

The only way around it that I see is to become self employed with my own business and have no other employees.

I'll just have to tough it out and/or perhaps organize my like minded co-workers to resist this crazy stupid BS and to legally fight back?

We're getting very tired of it quick.

So what's really going on R N' R, is it quotas / diversity? From the sounds, 'Made in America' isn't going to mean what it used to for much longer.

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Posted 22 February 2020 - 06:46 PM

View PostRock N, on 22 February 2020 - 01:00 PM, said:

I've got 7 more years to go and I'll receive a full pension (that is if the state doesn't ruin it and bankrupt it by then).

There isn't anywhere else to go to that isn't adopting this same exact insane BS policy. My former employer (a family owned business) had even begun to adopt this same crap too because of their insurance company and their lawyers and it's even worse there I've been told and they're about to go bankrupt. The bigger cities here are the worst about it since they are all democrap ruled.

The only way around it that I see is to become self employed with my own business and have no other employees.

I'll just have to tough it out and/or perhaps organize my like minded co-workers to resist this crazy stupid BS and to legally fight back?

We're getting very tired of it quick.


Two words: Chris Craft.

Boat in a harbor, even as a "weekender" , goes a LONG way to removing stress. And stress IS the #1 killer of people our age.

My "retirement plan" is a chris-craft constellation. I'm not picky, anything in the 50-ft-ish range from '60s to present. Even a fixer-upper (I'm ex-Navy, I KNOW how to get a boat up to snuff.)(Well, okay, i never really saw that much teak or other woods in the Navy. LOL. But I think I can manage.)
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Posted 24 February 2020 - 07:29 PM

View PostRock N, on 22 February 2020 - 12:05 PM, said:

And us producers are all supposed to/are expected to just sit back, STFU and have nothing negative to say back about it and we are expected to LIKE IT OR ELSE.

This crap is destroying all work ethic, especially traditional work ethic. Nothing is ever getting done right or finished and everything has been failing because there is ZERO accountability.
It's even a HUGE problem with all of our contractors and their employees as well.

You will only get in trouble if you dare to openly criticize this crazy progtarded shidt and not go along with it.

Again as I've said on other threads, this crap is being forced upon every company that there is by these proggy activist groups and their "diversity training" consultants.

If you do not hire these communists to speak to/educate your employees and adopt their "diversity" rules, your company then gets sued by these people and you will then get forced to by a court order to acquiesce. So, most HR departments everywhere are under pressure from their insurance companies to cave in and hire these proggy commies firms and adopting their crazy leftists proggy PC rules as company policy.

This is a racket, folks. A deliberate planned conspiracy to undermine and destroy the past traditional American way(s) that made us into the best nation in the world.

It needs to be exposed and then put to a STOP.

I think that I'm one of the few out there who see that this going on and who's behind it and have been getting the word out there to as many as I can on the internet.

All of you need to do the same.
Sounds like a shakedown under the guise of multiculturalism / diversity. The job must have certain requirements; if you meet them you are kept, and when called for you get promoted - all according to the needs of the company being met with regard to the job requirements. If you do not meet the requirements, you may get probation to raise your performance or you are let go. Job requirements are the same across the board (IOW - colorblind), unless there is a 'special needs' employee, but even in this case - you either meet the requirements or you don't. Not every spec needs employee can perform all required tasks, and therefore not all positions are open to everyone because some people would be unable to perform them - these would be physical limitations, not mental in the vast majority of cases. Diversity should have no influence on the performance or non-performance of the vast majority of tasks. The only exception I could imagine might be someone that did not grow up in the U.S., and who may have more of a learning curve regarding various aspects that would be second nature for most that did grow up in the U.S.

Seems to me that the companies being subjected to this bullying / shakedown should band together and have a class action lawsuit against those pushing this crap, and be able to produce evidence that production has fallen, and they are being impacted financially; and that this will eventually put them out of business due to loss of competitiveness, loss of good employees, spending time / $$ to rundown baseless claims that are brought up by those claiming racism / sexism / etc. just so they can bully their way to a free ride at the expense of the company and the remaining hardworking employees.

When you hit the bully / shakedown scammers in the pocketbook, frequently, and with significant financial loss on their part, maybe they will try a different scam, and finally give you some peace.
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Posted 24 February 2020 - 08:11 PM

View PostASE, on 24 February 2020 - 07:29 PM, said:

Sounds like a shakedown under the guise of multiculturalism / diversity. The job must have certain requirements; if you meet them you are kept, and when called for you get promoted - all according to the needs of the company being met with regard to the job requirements. If you do not meet the requirements, you may get probation to raise your performance or you are let go. Job requirements are the same across the board (IOW - colorblind), unless there is a 'special needs' employee, but even in this case - you either meet the requirements or you don't. Not every spec needs employee can perform all required tasks, and therefore not all positions are open to everyone because some people would be unable to perform them - these would be physical limitations, not mental in the vast majority of cases. Diversity should have no influence on the performance or non-performance of the vast majority of tasks. The only exception I could imagine might be someone that did not grow up in the U.S., and who may have more of a learning curve regarding various aspects that would be second nature for most that did grow up in the U.S.

Seems to me that the companies being subjected to this bullying / shakedown should band together and have a class action lawsuit against those pushing this crap, and be able to produce evidence that production has fallen, and they are being impacted financially; and that this will eventually put them out of business due to loss of competitiveness, loss of good employees, spending time / $$ to rundown baseless claims that are brought up by those claiming racism / sexism / etc. just so they can bully their way to a free ride at the expense of the company and the remaining hardworking employees.

When you hit the bully / shakedown scammers in the pocketbook, frequently, and with significant financial loss on their part, maybe they will try a different scam, and finally give you some peace.

A lot of this crap is pushed on companies by non-employee board members and stockholder initiatives. Oil and gas production companies donít have a need for a VP of diverrrrrrsity, but the ďmarketĒ, meaning soy boy stock analysts, will savage your company publicly if you donít have one, influencing pension fund and portfolio managers that invest heavily.
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Posted 24 February 2020 - 11:23 PM

Capitalism in a free society allows the individual to prosper or fail on their own merits. Socialism eliminates an individualís opportunity to prosper and brings everyone down to the lowest common denominator. Nobody will produce if they arenít rewarded accordingly so the people are forced to produce.

Those wanting socialism havenít seen the last part of the equation. They only focus on the first part where everyone is treated equitable rather than equal. Meaning, no matter what you contribute to society you get equal share in the pie. Human nature says that if you get the same share of the pie no matter what you produce, then people will produce the bare minimum. Thatís why socialism fails but the lazy like it because it brings everyone down to their level. At least until they are forced to contribute, which is the lead into communism.
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