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Unless I was half-asleep and misunderstood what they were saying, the first thing I heard on Fox News this morning was an accusation of mental instability against folks who hunkered down during a tornado. They had a guest on who said that these type of folks likely had a mental attitude all their lives about not facing the problems right in front of them.

Yet, those folks who took flight during a tornado were the strong who recognized danger and were brave enough to take action unlike the weaklings who did not.

Now they are reporting about the deaths that took place in Oklahoma from yesterday's tornadoes and how many of them occurred to folks who were on the road trying to outrun the tornadoes.

And they have officials from Oklahoma talking about how important it is that people take shelter wherever they can find it instead of being out on the roads. They are talking about the traffic jam that caused so many to be sitting ducks when the tornadoes hit.

Tornadoes have been occurring since time began and yet these wonderfully wise talking heads keep giving advice to those of us who have been dealing with this all our lives. Oh yes, you are so correct in all of your assumptions. Please keep trying to wake up us dumb rubes who are too ignorant to move to the your perfect East coast cities.

I can't help but wonder if Fox News is partially responsible for so many Oklahomans taking to the roads. Did they give advice to try and outrun tornadoes prior to these last tornadoes? I don't know because I don't watch it like I used to. I would be interested to know what they've been saying on this topic before last night.

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I don't know much about tornadoes, but it seems to me that there usually isn't enough warning to try to outrun them. But then again, you would think that people who live in or near tornado alley would know what to do.
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If the guest made the assertion, then IMO it's the guest who was in error. Fox News was simply the venue for his statement.
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Thinking about it, I believe that I heard some news channel talking about the best defense is to get out of the way, IF there is enough warning. I don't know if it was Fox. It was right after the last big hit in Moore, OK.
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I highly doubt anyone who lives in tornado country would be stupid enough to do something they hear on TV after know what to do all their lives. If they did, well...
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horseman, on 01 June 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

I don't know much about tornadoes, but it seems to me that there usually isn't enough warning to try to outrun them. But then again, you would think that people who live in or near tornado alley would know what to do.


Yeah, you would. I've lived in TN all my life and we find the safest spot in the house to ride out the storm. We have been through multiple tornado watches and warnings for as long as I can remember and if we got in a car every time we had one, we would have spent nearly every March though May of every year constantly being on the road.

In the meantime, I've never actually been in a tornado unless it was so small that it was not recognized as one officially. However had we gone on a ride during bad weather for well over a hundred times, the likelihood of us being in a wreck would have been more dangerous than all the tornadoes that never happened.

For some reason, it seems we get the majority of our watches and warnings at night when you can't see what is going on. Therefore, driving away from the storm would not be as easy as you might think.

I just wish folks would give us a little credit for living through these storms as long as we have.
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mjperry51, on 01 June 2013 - 03:18 PM, said:

If the guest made the assertion, then IMO it's the guest who was in error. Fox News was simply the venue for his statement.


Yes, that's a good point. Though the Fox person did seem to be agreeing with the guest. And I guess it's all the stuff I've been hearing from Fox since this current crop of tornadoes started. They keep mentioning basements and storm shelters as if it's nothing to have one of those built at every home in tornado alley. I would love to have either one but I don't have the money and I doubt I ever will.
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horseman, on 01 June 2013 - 03:20 PM, said:

Thinking about it, I believe that I heard some news channel talking about the best defense is to get out of the way, IF there is enough warning. I don't know if it was Fox. It was right after the last big hit in Moore, OK.


I do believe I've heard it on Fox before today but I can't remember at the moment rather or not it was a Fox broadcaster or a guest.
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Mr. Naron, on 01 June 2013 - 03:25 PM, said:

I highly doubt anyone who lives in tornado country would be stupid enough to do something they hear on TV after know what to do all their lives. If they did, well...


I would like to say I agree with you but I have learned over the years that I too can be influenced by the talking heads and I know better or at least should know better.
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everything i heard on fox last night and today was more along the lines of "poor dummies who got in their cars are the ones that died" and that everyone should have sheltered in place. :shrug:
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houston hot mama, on 01 June 2013 - 11:16 PM, said:

everything i heard on fox last night and today was more along the lines of "poor dummies who got in their cars are the ones that died" and that everyone should have sheltered in place. :shrug:


I'm not surprised considering that most of the deaths were in their vehicles. I do believe Fox had egg on their face and was trying to wipe it off.

Perhaps there were some that recognized the stupidity of encouraing folks to run as a matter of course. I just happened to notice those who were denigrating those who did hunker in place because those and the ones about everybody should buy a basement/tornado shelter right now were the remarks that irritated me the most.

Maybe I'm just being irritable but hey, it's my tornado alley and I'll whine if I want to. :lol:
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ilja, on 01 June 2013 - 07:30 PM, said:

horseman, on 01 June 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

I don't know much about tornadoes, but it seems to me that there usually isn't enough warning to try to outrun them. But then again, you would think that people who live in or near tornado alley would know what to do.


Yeah, you would. I've lived in TN all my life and we find the safest spot in the house to ride out the storm. We have been through multiple tornado watches and warnings for as long as I can remember and if we got in a car every time we had one, we would have spent nearly every March though May of every year constantly being on the road.

In the meantime, I've never actually been in a tornado unless it was so small that it was not recognized as one officially. However had we gone on a ride during bad weather for well over a hundred times, the likelihood of us being in a wreck would have been more dangerous than all the tornadoes that never happened.

For some reason, it seems we get the majority of our watches and warnings at night when you can't see what is going on. Therefore, driving away from the storm would not be as easy as you might think.

I just wish folks would give us a little credit for living through these storms as long as we have.


Every condition warrants it's own response. I was hit and tossed from a tent at 1140PM one night while in the field so I have a few issues with tornado's which has forced me to understand them rather well. Couple that with my career as a pilot and I can say I know quite a bit about tornado's and their dangers.

With today's technology, you gain advanced notification if you have the right capabilities built in. I have an iPhone app that screams any alert I set it up for in the National Weather Service. I also have it set so 5 surrounding counties of mine are also set when they get the warning. If it is an extremely violent storm and I am living in a mobile home I am out of there. If on the other hand I have a built in shelter in my garage (I do) then I stay home and weather out the storm there. Sometimes your damned if you do and damned if you don't. Those people that live in Oklahoma know what to do in a tornado warning. I think this one was just a perfect storm sort of condition and honestly a tornado that ran down an interstate and killed that few is a miracle.

Watches and warnings happen 24/7. The most deadly one's are at night for a number of reasons, they are also the one's that are most memorable because they happen at night when you are most vulnerable. Think of them as Grendel stalking the night, at least that's how I perceive them. The only defense is to cower and hope he passes you by.

1. Your almost always asleep when they happen therefore you are not in a state of ready. Your TV is off and those crappy "weather radio's" are crap unless you are literally right next to an antennae.

2. You will never see the tornado approaching. Therefore, the warning is generally not as good. When I first got to my current location (lower Alabama) I found out how severe the weather can be. I spent a few nights at the local Walmart until my shelter was put in.

3. With my weather app (weather radio) I am usually in my shelter with my wife and cat BEFORE the siren's go off in the area. That's advanced notification!

Last thing, at the end of the day there is only one person responsible for your life. That is not the state, federal or city government, the fire department or police, or even the damn tax collector, doctor or media. It is YOU. If you choose to shelter in place and end up in Oz then you have no one to blame except yourself. If you choose to chase or run from the tornado and you end up in Oz or worse in someone's house as a smoking hole then again your fault. Sometimes you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. The best advice is to create a system for yourself at home and away and execute it as best you can, and be responsible for your own life.

I personally will never follow some orders that others give just because they can throw out some sense of perceived authority. I am responsible for my own life not them.
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I can't say it was a tornado but years ago while on my motorcycle a wind picked me up from the inside lane, took me across the center lane and set me down ever so gently in the outside lane. A car that had been behind me pulled even with me and the driver waved at me then applauded. The whole thing was done so gently I could hardly believe it happened.
Mark
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searcher, on 03 June 2013 - 11:53 PM, said:

I can't say it was a tornado but years ago while on my motorcycle a wind picked me up from the inside lane, took me across the center lane and set me down ever so gently in the outside lane. A car that had been behind me pulled even with me and the driver waved at me then applauded. The whole thing was done so gently I could hardly believe it happened.Mark


That would only happen to you Mark. :lol: You so crazy.
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