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Posted 21 May 2019 - 12:33 PM

Federal Agencies Admit To $1.2 Trillion In Improper Payments Since 2004
Adam Andrzejewski, Contributor
Mar 23, 2019, 08:04am
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Since 2004, twenty large federal agencies admit paying out an astonishing $1.2 trillion in improper payments. That amounts to more than one-quarter of President Trump's proposed $4.7 trillion budget for 2020. Last year, these improper payments totaled $140 billion – that's about $12 billion per month.

But what exactly is an improper payment? Federal law defines the term as "payments made by the government to the wrong person, in the wrong amount, or for the wrong reason."

In other words, there's a lack of basic in-house financial controls within the largest federal agencies. When people or companies receive money they don't deserve, it erodes our trust in government, our economy and government's ability to finance everything from defense to health care.

Improper payments in health care are especially troubling. In 2011, when President Barack Obama signed the Affordable Care Act, Congress vowed to help pay for it by rooting out waste, fraud, corruption and taxpayer abuse from the Medicare and Medicaid programs.

It never happened.

In fact, the improper payments within these programs soared from $64 billion in 2012 to $85 billion today.

The biggest offenders across government include: Human & Human Services (HHS); Internal Revenue Service (IRS); Social Security Administration (SSA); and the departments of Defense (DOD), Labor (DOL), and Education (ED).

What were some the ways these agencies wasted our tax dollars last year?

  • Dead people received $1 billion in benefits. Medicare, Medicaid, social security payments and also the federal retirement annuity payouts (pensions) kept flowing to dead recipients.
  • College students were overpaid by nearly $6 billion in Pell Grants and student loans. Approximately four percent of all payments were improper, and ED forecasts a worse figure in FY2019.
  • Social Security recipients were overpaid by $10 billion. Six million active Social Security numbers belong to people aged 112 and older. Here's the problem: there are only 40 people in the entire world aged 112 and over.
  • $18.4 billion in Earned Income Tax Credit overpayments. Millions of low-income families who Congress designated as qualified recipients were overpaid billions of dollars. The program is rife with errors: the government overpaid $1 in every $4 to beneficiaries. (The IRS administers the program and responded to our request for comment here.)
  • Medicare & Medicaid improperly paid $85 billion in benefits with overpayments amounting to $67 billion. Administered by HHS, Medicaid admits to overpaying recipients $36 billion. Medicare admits to $31 billion in overpayments.

The examples are endless.

The government paid doctors who were stripped of their medical license. Farmers were overpaid $242 million on crop subsidies, insurance, direct payments, and loans. Unemployment insurance recipients received $3.6 billion in over payments administered by the states through the Department of Labor.* The Pentagon overpaid $1.2 billion for things like civilian, military, retirement and travel pay, health benefits, and more.

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Posted 21 May 2019 - 01:01 PM

A trillion here, a trillion there, and sooner or later you’re talking real money
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Posted 21 May 2019 - 02:31 PM

The fact is not lost on most of the public. Unfortunately Congress is so insulated from reality and the general public has so limited access to the same, small wonder that we are in the current circumstance. Duly elected, only if you feed the pig and keep it sated.
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Posted 21 May 2019 - 08:56 PM

View PostUSMCforever60, on 21 May 2019 - 02:31 PM, said:

The fact is not lost on most of the public. Unfortunately Congress is so insulated from reality and the general public has so limited access to the same, small wonder that we are in the current circumstance. Duly elected, only if you feed the pig and keep it sated.


Congress believes that they are reality. And that's not even a half of where we find ourselves today.
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Posted 21 May 2019 - 10:56 PM

And that's why the Democrats want to raise our taxes.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Government doesn't have a revenue problem. It has a spending problem. And the only way to feed the beast is to take it from us.

As Presidential candidate ( :puke: ) "The Dope From Park Slope" (aka DeBlasio) said on Jan 9, 2019, “Here’s the truth, brothers and sisters, there’s plenty of money in the world. Plenty of money in this city. It’s just in the wrong hands!”

https://www.nytimes....te-of-city.html

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 01:49 AM

A few trillion pissed away?

Mere chicken feed.

Just raise the taxes upon the struggling working middle class some more. No biggie.

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Posted 22 May 2019 - 01:56 AM

View PostHowsithangin, on 21 May 2019 - 01:01 PM, said:

A trillion here, a trillion there, and sooner or later you’re talking real money

Well, maybe?

We have an unlimited amount of money in the well of the working middle class. Just go get/take some more. They/we don't mind having our money confiscated to be pissed away upon the stupid lazy worthless people and to super rich corporations.

So what if the middle class keeps on getting robbed from the bottom and the top?

Serves 'em/us right. :rolleyes:
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Posted 22 May 2019 - 09:07 AM

View Posthelton, on 21 May 2019 - 10:56 PM, said:

And that's why the Democrats want to raise our taxes.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Government doesn't have a revenue problem. It has a spending problem. And the only way to feed the beast is to take it from us.

As Presidential candidate ( :puke: ) "The Dope From Park Slope" (aka DeBlasio) said on Jan 9, 2019, “Here’s the truth, brothers and sisters, there’s plenty of money in the world. Plenty of money in this city. It’s just in the wrong hands!”

https://www.nytimes....te-of-city.html

De Bozo, hubris and stupidity be thy name.
Who would address a crowd as "Brothers and Sisters" WTF does think he is, wigger?
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Posted 22 May 2019 - 09:36 AM

View PostUSMCforever60, on 22 May 2019 - 09:07 AM, said:

De Bozo, hubris and stupidity be thy name.
Who would address a crowd as "Brothers and Sisters" WTF does think he is, wigger?

2 reasons why he might use "Brothers and Sisters":

1) His wife is black and his kids are biracial, so he thinks that gives him "black privilege."
2) He's a true blue communist and that's how they address each other.

Every day he gives all of us New Yorkers another reason to hate his guts.
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Posted 23 May 2019 - 03:03 AM

View PostUSMCforever60, on 21 May 2019 - 02:31 PM, said:

The fact is not lost on most of the public. Unfortunately Congress is so insulated from reality and the general public has so limited access to the same, small wonder that we are in the current circumstance. Duly elected, only if you feed the pig and keep it sated.


Those payments came from the executive branch, not congress.

Whenever conservatives drill down on things like this in committee hearings they get savaged by the democrats and their willing accomplices in the media as hateful and being anti-government.
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Posted 24 May 2019 - 02:37 PM

View PostHowsithangin, on 21 May 2019 - 01:01 PM, said:

A trillion here, a trillion there, and sooner or later you’re talking real money

I wonder if improper payment is just code for stolen.
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Posted 24 May 2019 - 02:41 PM

View PostHieronymous, on 24 May 2019 - 02:37 PM, said:

I wonder if improper payment is just code for stolen.


I think they are all so <censored>ed up they can't make any distinction one way or another.
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Posted 24 May 2019 - 04:04 PM

Is this the same group of misfits that wants to look at Trump's tax returns?
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