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#1 User is offline   Liz 

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  Posted 04 September 2019 - 12:45 AM

What Is The Electability Debate Really About?

The Democratic presidential campaigns are currently in the throes of what they think is a debate about 'electability.' But they are finding the concept elusive.

The Federalist
By Warren Henry
September 3, 2019

Excerpt:

The Democratic presidential campaigns are currently in the throes of what they think is a debate about “electability.” But they are finding the concept elusive because Democrats find it easier to talk around their issues than state them bluntly in public.

The concept of “electability” is usually applied to front-runner Joe Biden, but his campaign has been the source of some of the most inane comments about it. “Your candidate might be better on, I don’t know, health care than Joe is,” Jill Biden told voters in New Hampshire, “but you’ve got to look at who’s going to win this election. And maybe you have to swallow a little bit and say, ‘Okay, I sort of personally like so-and-so better.’ But your bottom line has to be that we have to beat Trump.”

On the other hand, Joe—shooting himself in the foot as usual—told the Washington Post’s Jonathan Capehart “almost anybody” can beat President Trump.

As Joe rambled on, however, he stumbled closer to his actual theory about electability: “I mean, I get overwhelming support from working-class folks of all backgrounds, and at the same time I get significant support in my career from African Americans as well as I get support from folks who have decided that we weren’t listening to them and voted for Trump last time. There’s not that many of them that switched, but the point is it’s a combination of turning out the vote and turning back that, those couple hundred thousand votes, less than that probably, that actually went to Trump, because we stopped talking to their concerns.”

Biden’s rivals and skeptics have a different theory of electability, though usually not expressed as such these days. At a big NAACP dinner in Detroit, Kamala Harris said: “There has been a conversation by pundits about ‘electability’ and ‘who can speak to the Midwest.’ But when they say that, they usually put the Midwest in a simplistic box and a narrow narrative. And too often their definition of the Midwest leaves people out. It leaves out people in this room, who helped build cities like Detroit.” Democratic pollster Diane Feldman tells CNBC’s John Harwood that the “capacity to motivate younger voters is enormously important,” an implicit dig at Biden’s relative weakness with that demographic.

In the simplest terms, Biden’s theory of electability involves getting back some Obama-Trump voters, while the left would prefer to get back at Obama-Trump voters. This is why Biden’s detractors generally avoid explaining their theory of electability at length.

Before Donald Trump descended his escalator, Democrats were more open in discussing and promoting their progressive theory how they get elected. Since the publication of “The Emerging Democratic Majority” in 2002, the party’s elites have embraced the idea that capturing younger voters as the electorate became more racially diverse would lead to a political realignment lasting decades (that the book did not promise this became quite beside the point). The election of Barack Obama, a progressive swept into office with high turnout from minorities and younger voters, was often said to validate the strongest version of this theory. Democratic pollsters began focusing on the “Rising American Electorate” of unmarried women, millennials and non-white voters as a lens through which our politics should be viewed.

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Posted 04 September 2019 - 03:04 AM

Promising trillions in free sh!t, taking away civil liberties and holding out on the cure for cancer isn't working? :o
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Posted 04 September 2019 - 04:09 AM

It's tough relating to Americans when you're not one yourself...

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Posted 04 September 2019 - 06:09 AM

View PostLiz, on 04 September 2019 - 12:45 AM, said:

The Federalist
By Warren Henry
September 3, 2019

Warren Henry is the nom de plume of an attorney practicing in the State of Illinois.


Never trust an opinion writer who uses a "pen name."
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Posted 04 September 2019 - 06:21 AM

View PostThat_Guy, on 04 September 2019 - 06:09 AM, said:

Never trust an opinion writer who uses a "pen name."


Like you??
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Posted 04 September 2019 - 06:21 AM

View PostThat_Guy, on 04 September 2019 - 06:09 AM, said:

Never trust an opinion writer who uses a "pen name."

So_True.
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Posted 04 September 2019 - 06:43 AM

View Postmjperry51, on 04 September 2019 - 06:21 AM, said:

Like you??


How dare you. :dramaqueen:

I'll have you know that all of my opinions, from the insightful to the ridiculous, were published under a byline which included my actual government name.

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Posted 04 September 2019 - 07:04 AM

View Postmjperry51, on 04 September 2019 - 06:21 AM, said:

Like you??
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:biglaugh:

View Postzurg, on 04 September 2019 - 06:21 AM, said:

So_True.


:yes:

View Postgrimreefer, on 04 September 2019 - 03:04 AM, said:

Promising trillions in free sh!t, taking away civil liberties and holding out on the cure for cancer isn't working? :o


Apparently not!
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Posted 04 September 2019 - 07:09 AM

View PostThat_Guy, on 04 September 2019 - 06:43 AM, said:

How dare you, sir. :dramaqueen:

I'll have you know that all of my opinions, from the insightful to the ridiculous, were published under a byline which included my actual government name.


Your parents really didn't like you, did they?

In the immortal words of Johnny Cash:

"Life ain't easy for a boy named That_Guy"

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Posted 04 September 2019 - 10:28 AM

View PostThat_Guy, on 04 September 2019 - 06:09 AM, said:

Never trust an opinion writer who uses a "pen name."


Awww, what's wrong, TG? Frustrated by the inability to completely ruin someone's life for daring to disagree with you?

Can't say I blame the guy. If I was an opinion writer I wouldn't use my real name either. You people are f***ing crazy.
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Posted 04 September 2019 - 11:12 AM

View Postmjperry51, on 04 September 2019 - 07:09 AM, said:

Your parents really didn't like you, did they?

In the immortal words of Johnny Cash:

"Life ain't easy for a boy named That_Guy"


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:biglaugh: :welldone:

View PostGrimV, on 04 September 2019 - 10:28 AM, said:

Awww, what's wrong, TG? Frustrated by the inability to completely ruin someone's life for daring to disagree with you?

Can't say I blame the guy. If I was an opinion writer I wouldn't use my real name either. You people are f***ing crazy.


:exactly:
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Posted 04 September 2019 - 12:04 PM

View PostThat_Guy, on 04 September 2019 - 06:09 AM, said:

Never trust an opinion writer who uses a "pen name."


Yeah, everybody knows Mark Twain was really a commie!

:rolleyes:
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Posted 04 September 2019 - 12:26 PM

View PostThat_Guy, on 04 September 2019 - 06:09 AM, said:

Never trust an opinion writer who uses a "pen name."


When are you going to change you user name to your real name?
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Posted 04 September 2019 - 12:46 PM

View PostThat_Guy, on 04 September 2019 - 06:43 AM, said:

How dare you. :dramaqueen:

I'll have you know that all of my opinions, from the insightful to the ridiculous, were published under a byline which included my actual government name.

Your solicitations written on public bathroom walls are hardly considered "published".
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Posted 04 September 2019 - 02:12 PM

They say the words of the prophet are written on bathroom walls, and crapper stalls...
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Posted 04 September 2019 - 02:29 PM

View PostSeverian, on 04 September 2019 - 02:12 PM, said:

They say the words of the prophet are written on bathroom walls, and crapper stalls...


LOL

The Simon & Gar Farkle version!

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Posted 04 September 2019 - 05:27 PM

View PostNoclevermoniker, on 04 September 2019 - 12:46 PM, said:

Your solicitations written on public bathroom walls are hardly considered "published".


There he sits,
Now chagrinned;
Tried his "wits",
Pissed in the wind.

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Posted 04 September 2019 - 05:32 PM

View PostBen Cranklin, on 04 September 2019 - 05:27 PM, said:

There he sits,
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Tried his "wits",
Pissed in the wind.



LOL

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