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  Posted 08 January 2019 - 03:00 AM

Dershowitz On Impeachment: 'It's Not Going To Work,' Dems Won't 'Ever Remove' Trump

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By Michael W. Chapman
January 7, 2019 | 4:32 PM EST

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In reference to calls by some Democrats that Congress must impeach President Donald Trump, constitutional scholar and best selling author Alan Dershowitz said an impeachment will not work because the Republicans control the Senate and, if Democrats push it, such action will backfire and end up benefitting the president.

House Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) has been calling for the impeachment of Trump for over a year. Last week, new House Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) told a crowd of her supporters, "we're going to go in there and impeach the motherf***er."

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On the Jan. 3 edition of Good Day New York, Fox 5, a co-host asked Dershowitz, ďAttorney and political expert Alan Dershowitz says starting impeachment proceedings against President Trump would be a mistake. Itís actually the subject of his book, The Case Against the Democratic House Impeaching Trump. Ö Why did you feel this topic was so important to write about?Ē

Dershowitz, emeritus Professor of Law at Harvard Law School, said, ďIím a liberal Democrat. I campaigned hard for Hillary Clinton. I campaigned hard for the Democrats to takeover the House Ė Iím thrilled that the Democrats have taken over the House. Now thereís a check and balance on our president."

"But for the Democrats to fritter their power away on impeaching the president Ė itís not going to work," he said. "Theyíre not going to ever remove him. The Republicans control the Senate. He hasnít satisfied the constitutional criteria for impeachment.Ē

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 03:14 AM

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"He hasnít satisfied the constitutional criteria for impeachment."


That's the money quote, right there. No matter how much Democrats hate him, being hated is not an impeachable offense. Being blunt is not an impeachable offense. Being crude is not an impeachable offense. And so forth.

He'd have to actually do something illegal in order to be impeached, and despite leftists' wet dreams and fantasies, he just hasn't.

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 05:45 AM

Dershowitz is forgetting Mueller & Co,'s dangling carrots, the Left loves those things like babies love their Binkies. Sure, there's no legal reason to impeach yet, but there's collusion with Russia, obstruction of justice, campaign finance laws, Mueller's got the goods on him, they just need to be patient! And don't forget the man's tax returns, what a treasure trove on impeachable offenses that'll be!! :sarcasm:
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Posted 08 January 2019 - 06:04 AM

Confirmation bias. ORANGE MAN BAD!!!TM so the left will make anything and everything an impeachable offense for Trump.
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Posted 08 January 2019 - 07:38 AM

Ya know, sometimes when I am letting my mind wander a bot while considering what the hell is going on in the minds of House Dim's, I see and hear the character Eric Cartman from South Park.
You WILL accept my authority!!
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Posted 08 January 2019 - 02:58 PM

View PostLiz, on 08 January 2019 - 03:00 AM, said:

He hasn’t satisfied the constitutional criteria for impeachment.


Except of course when he is an UN-INDICTED CO-CONSPIRATOR in Cohen's guilty plea to campaign fincance violations.

He is also under investigation by the Special Council who's ultimate findings ARE NOT YET KNOW, but look pretty gloomy for Trump, especially on Obstruction of Justice.


To say at this point that Trump will definetly not be impeached, because he definetly does not meet criteria is OBVIOUSLY premature at best....so why then is Dershowitz, who is not stupid by most accounts, keeps saying these silly things? :hole:

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 03:12 PM

View PostAntonToo, on 08 January 2019 - 02:58 PM, said:

Except of course when he is an UN-INDICTED CO-CONSPIRATOR in Cohen's guilty plea to campaign fincance violations.

He is also under investigation by the Special Council who's ultimate findings ARE NOT YET KNOW, but look pretty gloomy for Trump, especially on Obstruction of Justice.


To say at this point that Trump will definetly not be impeached, because he definetly does not meet criteria is OBVIOUSLY premature at best....so why then is Dershowitz, who is not stupid by most accounts, keeps saying these silly things? :hole:

:lol3:

It's because you're really the stupid one, Anton. :biglaugh:
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Posted 08 January 2019 - 05:33 PM

View PostAntonToo, on 08 January 2019 - 02:58 PM, said:

Except of course when he is an UN-INDICTED CO-CONSPIRATOR in Cohen's guilty plea to campaign fincance violations.

He is also under investigation by the Special Council who's ultimate findings ARE NOT YET KNOW, but look pretty gloomy for Trump, especially on Obstruction of Justice.


To say at this point that Trump will definetly not be impeached, because he definetly does not meet criteria is OBVIOUSLY premature at best....so why then is Dershowitz, who is not stupid by most accounts, keeps saying these silly things? :hole:


LOLOLOLOL. This is why you're so hilariously amusing, Anton.

As for the bolded question, the answer is clear: It's because he not only is very intelligent, but also because he has decades of direct professional experience in these specific matters. He knows what he's talking about, and you don't. It really is just as simple as that. You hate Trump so much it prevents you from thinking honestly or clearly or intelligently.

But by all means keep punching that Bozo-Bag. Maybe one of these times it'll stay down, LOL.

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 05:56 PM

Cohen copped a plea because Mueller and prosecutors in New York have him on wholly unrelated to Trump charges. The only reason to call paying for a whore's silence with a personal check not political funds a "campaign finance violation" is to justify Mueller's existence. He's a chump playing NeverTrumpers for suckers.

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 09:26 PM

View Postgravelrash, on 08 January 2019 - 05:56 PM, said:

Cohen copped a plea because Mueller and prosecutors in New York have him on wholly unrelated to Trump charges. The only reason to call paying for a whore's silence with a personal check not political funds a "campaign finance violation" is to justify Mueller's existence. He's a chump playing NeverTrumpers for suckers.

Tipping your waitress after grabbing a bite to eat on the campaign trail and not reporting it can be considered a campaign finance violation by democrat logic.
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Posted 09 January 2019 - 12:05 AM

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 03:02 AM

View PostAntonToo, on 08 January 2019 - 02:58 PM, said:

Except of course when he is an UN-INDICTED CO-CONSPIRATOR in Cohen's guilty plea to campaign fincance violations.

He is also under investigation by the Special Council who's ultimate findings ARE NOT YET KNOW, but look pretty gloomy for Trump, especially on Obstruction of Justice.


To say at this point that Trump will definetly not be impeached, because he definetly does not meet criteria is OBVIOUSLY premature at best....so why then is Dershowitz, who is not stupid by most accounts, keeps saying these silly things? :hole:


You don't understand it because you ARE...by ALL accounts.
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Posted 09 January 2019 - 08:07 AM

View PostAntonToo, on 08 January 2019 - 02:58 PM, said:

Except of course when he is an UN-INDICTED CO-CONSPIRATOR in Cohen's guilty plea to campaign fincance violations.

He is also under investigation by the Special Council who's ultimate findings ARE NOT YET KNOW, but look pretty gloomy for Trump, especially on Obstruction of Justice.


To say at this point that Trump will definetly not be impeached, because he definetly does not meet criteria is OBVIOUSLY premature at best....so why then is Dershowitz, who is not stupid by most accounts, keeps saying these silly things? :hole:


You went full retard...
NEVER go full retard.

View Postgrimreefer, on 08 January 2019 - 06:04 AM, said:

Confirmation bias. ORANGE MAN BAD!!!TM so the left will make anything and everything an impeachable offense for Trump.


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Posted 09 January 2019 - 10:25 AM

View PostAntonToo, on 08 January 2019 - 02:58 PM, said:

Except of course when he is an UN-INDICTED CO-CONSPIRATOR in Cohen's guilty plea to campaign fincance violations.

He is also under investigation by the Special Council who's ultimate findings ARE NOT YET KNOW, but look pretty gloomy for Trump, especially on Obstruction of Justice.


To say at this point that Trump will definetly not be impeached, because he definetly does not meet criteria is OBVIOUSLY premature at best....so why then is Dershowitz, who is not stupid by most accounts, keeps saying these silly things? :hole:

Point straight into the wind and force hard, Anton. Your reward will be in the breeze.
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Posted 09 January 2019 - 12:42 PM

View Postgravelrash, on 08 January 2019 - 05:56 PM, said:

Cohen copped a plea because Mueller and prosecutors in New York have him on wholly unrelated to Trump charges. The only reason to call paying for a whore's silence with a personal check not political funds a "campaign finance violation" is to justify Mueller's existence. He's a chump playing NeverTrumpers for suckers.

Itís funny how incurious the media are about the reasoning (the why) behind stuff like this.

Why did Cohen cooperate? Why did Cohen originally agree to make the payment for the whore - did he cover his own tracks too? Did mueller find out about Cohenís own whore adventures?

The media is suddenly willing to accept this lying sleazebag Cohen as a pure honest of slightly lost soul. Suddenly everything he says against Trump is automatically true!

Itís all agenda, no facts, all fake.

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 02:45 PM

View PostJerryL, on 09 January 2019 - 03:02 AM, said:

You don't understand it because you ARE...by ALL accounts.


No, I don't understand it because IT IS NOT UNDERSTANDABLE.

There is NOT A SINGLE WAY to know there are no grounds to impeach Trump without knowing what the special council's findings are.
Dercherwitz is just a lawyer on TV, not a prosecutor on Mueller's team or magic crystal ball gazer.


No one here can refute that so all you are down to is many many posts of "Anton you suck!!!" ;)

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 02:52 PM

View PostAntonToo, on 09 January 2019 - 02:45 PM, said:

No, I don't understand it because IT IS NOT UNDERSTANDABLE.

There is NOT A SINGLE WAY to know there are no grounds to impeach Trump without knowing what the special council's findings are.
Dercherwitz is just a lawyer on TV, not a prosecutor on Mueller's team or magic crystal ball gazer.


No one here can refute that so all you are down to is many many posts of "Anton you suck!!!" ;)

Youíre totally missing or misrepresenting the main point. Yes, in theory it is true that NO ONE (except possibly Muellerís team) knows whether there are grounds to impeach Trump. This means that no one posting on RN knows, yourself included.

Therefore, logic dictates, that we can ONLY talk about the most likely outcomes, since none of us have certainty of knowledge. Given what has happened so far, with NOTHING to show from two years of investigating, that it is far more likely that thereís nothing to impeach Trump on, than that thereís a secret disclosure thatís been kept silent and Trump will face impeachment in say June 2019.

I know you donít want to admit that, but thatís where logic points is all.

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 03:13 PM

As for the silly accusation that all anybody ever says or does boils down to "Anton you suck", try to keep in mind how often over the years people have tried to persuade you to address questions, details, points, arguments, debates, etc, only to have you shamelessly dodge. For just ONE of COUNTLESS possible examples, within the past month or so I've asked you a very specific question in two separate threads, only to have you run away both times with your tail between your legs.

So yeah, it's true you suck. But it's your own fault for proving it so consistently.

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 03:50 PM

View PostAntonToo, on 09 January 2019 - 02:45 PM, said:

No, I don't understand it because IT IS NOT UNDERSTANDABLE.

There is NOT A SINGLE WAY to know there are no grounds to impeach Trump without knowing what the special council's findings are.
Dercherwitz is just a lawyer on TV, not a prosecutor on Mueller's team or magic crystal ball gazer.


No one here can refute that so all you are down to is many many posts of "Anton you suck!!!" ;)

Whatever, dip<censored>.

Dershowitz clearly states why he believes what he does.

The whole idea that the payoffs to his lays using personal...not campaign...funds somehow violated campaign finance laws is a huge stretch AND has nothing to do with Russian collusion, which is what Mueller and his band of merry shysters are supposed to be investigating.

Top that up with the fact that the Senate wonít convict.

But you grasp NONE of this because you are a lockstep ideologue and a partisan hack.

That is way more than a simple Anton sucks.

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 04:06 PM

View PostJerryL, on 09 January 2019 - 03:50 PM, said:

Whatever, dip<censored>.

Dershowitz clearly states why he believes what he does.

The whole idea that the payoffs to his lays using personal...not campaign...funds somehow violated campaign finance laws is a huge stretch AND has nothing to do with Russian collusion, which is what Mueller and his band of merry shysters are supposed to be investigating.

Top that up with the fact that the Senate wonít convict.

But you grasp NONE of this because you are a lockstep ideologue and a partisan hack.

That is way more than a simple Anton sucks.



The better description is 'Psychophant'.

He's a product of the Soviet indoctrination system.

Reason, logic will not persuade him. He KNOWS!

I gave up years ago. His refusal to answer questions he finds uncomfortable precludes an honest discussion.

Ridicule is all he deserves. (That and just ignoring him)
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