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#1 User is offline   Liz 

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Posted 25 May 2019 - 02:41 AM

How Does Obama Feel About Biden’s Candidacy? It’s Complicated.

New York Magazine
By Gabriel Debenedetti
24 May 2019, 6:00 A.M.

Excerpt:

Early on the April morning when Joe Biden announced his latest presidential run, Barack Obama’s spokeswoman issued a rare statement. The message praised the former vice-president’s “knowledge, insight, and judgment,” and highlighted the pair’s “special bond.” But it stopped short of endorsing Biden’s campaign. Just a few days earlier, Biden had responded to a reporter’s question about his ideology by categorizing himself as an “Obama-Biden Democrat, man,” and when he launched his campaign, his political team — having discussed the plan with Obama’s staff to lean on this message and imagery — posted a photo to Instagram of Biden laughing with Obama and plastered Facebook with ads featuring the former president.

Just as those ads were surfacing, however, members of Obama’s inner circle were quietly insisting to anyone who asked that the ex-president — who’s among the most popular public figures in the country, who’s not eager to turn back into a political football, and who’s also long been loath to publicly wade into intra-Democratic Party fights — was highly unlikely to pick sides in the primary at all, let alone so early in a process overflowing with candidates.

One month into Biden’s bid, the uncomfortable sense that his wholehearted embrace of his beloved former boss is not entirely reciprocated has only intensified, and is now a central unspoken psychological drama of the early Democratic primary as the former vice-president invokes “Barack” daily and the former president remains silent. No one doubts that the two men remain extremely close, but their relationship has also always been personally, politically, and philosophically tangled. (One former senior Obama aide whom I asked about it sighed and said, “The relationship is steeped in complication. They’re obviously close, and there’s trust. But it’s complicated.”) And while Obama’s insistence on neutrality is consistent with his commitment to sticking to post–White Housetradition, it inevitably hits his sidekick of eight years harder than anyone else in the race — the former vice-president’s implausible, and uncorroborated, claim that he asked Obama to stay out notwithstanding.

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Posted 25 May 2019 - 04:50 AM

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(One former senior Obama aide whom I asked about it sighed and said, "The relationship is steeped in complication. They're obviously close, and there's trust. But it's complicated.")
I'm nor even sure that constitutes a luke warm relationship.I mean I have had a few, very few, close relationships with people I worked with.And I have trusted, in a work environment, some of those some few.But the level of 'close' and 'trust' was never complicated.And for several years, there was actual life or death consequences of failure.Not just political problems.Edited to fix a wrongly chosen word.

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Posted 25 May 2019 - 04:57 AM

Yeah, an endorsement by ol' Skat for Brains would be a winning strategy for sure. At least if you can convince voters you're responsible for the current economic boom, stock market surge, America as an oil exporter, etc., it would be. I love the Dems' current Frontrunner, the guy who helped lead the country from behind...

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Posted 25 May 2019 - 07:36 AM

One of the Democrats' biggest problems in 2016 was that the party insiders favored Hillary Clinton over Senator Sanders. DNC Chairman Wasserman Schultz did this mostly through the debate schedule. DNC Temp Chairman Donna Brazile dishonestly gave Clinton advance copies of debate questions so she could deliver a carefully-prepared answer at one of her debates with Sanders. The Sanders supporters were understandably furious that the DNC leaders had given their favorite candidate short shrift. The new DNC Chairman, Perez, is well aware that any signs of partiality toward any candidate by the Democratic elite will divide the party, which badly needs to unite for the 2020 campaign. Yet, with a busload of Democrats having all announced for the Presidency, it is going to be very difficult to convince the supporters of all the losers that they weren't robbed when the eventual nominee is chosen.

That is why Perez and Obama agree that The One™ must take charge of ensuring party unity, since Obamadolatry is one of the few things all Democrats can agree on. That is why Obama is leading the Democratic Unity Fund, a way to convince big donors that they can buy access to the Democratic nominee if elected. In the meantime, Obama cannot favor his old running mate, Biden, or any other candidate without fracturing the Democrats' fragile unity. It is also possible, of course, that he really isn't enthusiastic about Biden and wishes Biden weren't running, but he will never admit to it in public.
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Posted 25 May 2019 - 09:20 AM

Obama won't risk looking out of touch by endorsing someone who might lose, especially someone the younger people don't think is wacky/progressive enough. Obama won't jump on anyone's bandwagon until they've pretty much sewn up the nomination, already.
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Posted 25 May 2019 - 09:23 AM

View PostMartin, on 25 May 2019 - 07:36 AM, said:

One of the Democrats' biggest problems in 2016 was that the party insiders favored Hillary Clinton over Senator Sanders. DNC Chairman Wasserman Schultz did this mostly through the debate schedule. DNC Temp Chairman Donna Brazile dishonestly gave Clinton advance copies of debate questions so she could deliver a carefully-prepared answer at one of her debates with Sanders. The Sanders supporters were understandably furious that the DNC leaders had given their favorite candidate short shrift. The new DNC Chairman, Perez, is well aware that any signs of partiality toward any candidate by the Democratic elite will divide the party, which badly needs to unite for the 2020 campaign. Yet, with a busload of Democrats having all announced for the Presidency, it is going to be very difficult to convince the supporters of all the losers that they weren't robbed when the eventual nominee is chosen.

That is why Perez and Obama agree that The One™ must take charge of ensuring party unity, since Obamadolatry is one of the few things all Democrats can agree on. That is why Obama is leading the Democratic Unity Fund, a way to convince big donors that they can buy access to the Democratic nominee if elected. In the meantime, Obama cannot favor his old running mate, Biden, or any other candidate without fracturing the Democrats' fragile unity. It is also possible, of course, that he really isn't enthusiastic about Biden and wishes Biden weren't running, but he will never admit to it in public.

I think that Obama isn’t enthusiastic at all about Biden, else he would have tried to get Joe to run in 2016 already. Barry chose Joe only because he had to have someone as VP. He picked Joe as someone to not outdo him. Barry wasn’t gonna share the show.

Secondly, about Obama being the “heart” of the party - entirely true. And it’s very revealing because, despite the claims and the words denying this, he’s a true socialist. Therefore, today’s democrats really are very far left. They are all about robbing the wealth of those who have it. It’s all about income inequality and the rich (selecting the ones who vote GOP). It’s a typical envy-driven socialist notion, Europe’s been there done that a long long ago and remains mired there today despite wishing not to.
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Posted 25 May 2019 - 10:23 AM

View PostBen Cranklin, on 25 May 2019 - 09:20 AM, said:

Obama won't risk looking out of touch by endorsing someone who might lose, especially someone the younger people don't think is wacky/progressive enough. Obama won't jump on anyone's bandwagon until they've pretty much sewn up the nomination, already.


He will jump in front parade and proclaim he was leading it the entire time.
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Posted 25 May 2019 - 01:56 PM

View PostJoe the Pagan, on 25 May 2019 - 10:23 AM, said:

He will jump in front parade and proclaim he was leading it the entire time.

Run the last block of a marathon and declare his own self the winner.
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Posted 25 May 2019 - 02:04 PM

View PostJoe the Pagan, on 25 May 2019 - 10:23 AM, said:

He will jump in front parade and proclaim he was leading it the entire time.


Or cash all of his DUFUS checks then sit in his Netflix office refusing to answer questions or be held accountable. For anything. Ever.
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Posted 25 May 2019 - 06:11 PM

View PostJoe the Pagan, on 25 May 2019 - 10:23 AM, said:

He will jump in front parade and proclaim he was leading it the entire time.

No-he'll be leading from behind...
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Posted 27 May 2019 - 12:22 AM

View PostLiz, on 25 May 2019 - 02:41 AM, said:

How Does Obama Feel About Biden’s Candidacy? It’s Complicated.

New York Magazine
By Gabriel Debenedetti
24 May 2019, 6:00 A.M.

Excerpt:

Early on the April morning when Joe Biden announced his latest presidential run, Barack Obama’s spokeswoman issued a rare statement. The message praised the former vice-president’s “knowledge, insight, and judgment,” and highlighted the pair’s “special bond.” But it stopped short of endorsing Biden’s campaign. Just a few days earlier, Biden had responded to a reporter’s question about his ideology by categorizing himself as an “Obama-Biden Democrat, man,” and when he launched his campaign, his political team — having discussed the plan with Obama’s staff to lean on this message and imagery — posted a photo to Instagram of Biden laughing with Obama and plastered Facebook with ads featuring the former president.

Just as those ads were surfacing, however, members of Obama’s inner circle were quietly insisting to anyone who asked that the ex-president — who’s among the most popular public figures in the country, who’s not eager to turn back into a political football, and who’s also long been loath to publicly wade into intra-Democratic Party fights — was highly unlikely to pick sides in the primary at all, let alone so early in a process overflowing with candidates.

One month into Biden’s bid, the uncomfortable sense that his wholehearted embrace of his beloved former boss is not entirely reciprocated has only intensified, and is now a central unspoken psychological drama of the early Democratic primary as the former vice-president invokes “Barack” daily and the former president remains silent. No one doubts that the two men remain extremely close, but their relationship has also always been personally, politically, and philosophically tangled. (One former senior Obama aide whom I asked about it sighed and said, “The relationship is steeped in complication. They’re obviously close, and there’s trust. But it’s complicated.”) And while Obama’s insistence on neutrality is consistent with his commitment to sticking to post–White Housetradition, it inevitably hits his sidekick of eight years harder than anyone else in the race — the former vice-president’s implausible, and uncorroborated, claim that he asked Obama to stay out notwithstanding.

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Biden served him well as VP for 8 years but in reality he's no where near radical enough for Obama to endorse prior to the convention unless he's just essentially the "Last Man Standing". There are at least half a dozen or more candidates far more in line with Obama's radical beliefs.
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