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#1 User is offline   pepperonikkid 

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  Posted 23 April 2018 - 06:56 AM

Chipping Away at the Second Amendment





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By Eileen F. Toplansky
April 23, 2018



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In 1993, Jay Simkin and Aaron Zelman of the group Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership published a document titled "Gun Control: Gateway to Tyranny," which highlights the similarities between the Nazi Weapons Law of March 18, 1938 and the U.S. Gun Control Act of 1968. Dedicated to the "tens of millions of victims of Nazi 'gun control," the book maintains that "the Nazi Weapons Law is the blueprint for 'gun control' in America." The following is a synopsis of their points:

  • Access to ammunition and reloading components (bullets, gun powder, brass, and especially primers) will be controlled.
  • Police-issued ammunition and reloading components acquisition permits will be required..
  • A Firearms Owner Identity card issued by the federal government will be required. (In fact, Massachusetts, Illinois, and New Jersey already have such cards.)
  • Copper, copper alloys, brass, and steel bullets are now classified as armor-piercing "cop-killer bullets" and so prohibited, and these restrictions will be justified based on health or environmental grounds.
  • Bans on ammunition sales may be imposed. In fact, temporary bans occurred throughout the early 1990s in Los Angeles and Chicago.
  • Access to firearms will be taxed, and the penalties for evading this tax will be severe.
  • Those who do not renew their permits will have to surrender their firearms to the government or sell them at distress prices to those who can still afford the permits.
  • The term "sporting purpose" will be redefined to slash the right to own whole classes of firearms. Thus, the right to own firearms will depend on a bureaucrat's whim. Certain military features such as pistol grips, bayonet lugs, and flash suppressors will be removed.


Is this hyperbolic fear-mongering, or are these type of restrictions being implemented?

The Democratically controlled New Jersey Assembly under Governor Phil Murphy has passed the following measures to tighten already stringent gun laws. Murphy asserts that "he supports these measures as "a public health matter" and wants legislation to encourage the sale of so-called "smart guns" which use technology to restrict who can fire them."

Consequently, A2761 "reduces the maximum capacity of ammunition magazines to 10 rounds [but] exempts firearms with .22 caliber tubular magazines from 10 round limitation." People who "currently own magazines with more than 10 rounds could keep their firearms, though they would have to register them and pay a $50 fee."

A2760 "revises the definition of destructive device to include certain weapons of 50 caliber or greater."

In addition, Murphy has announced his "intention to reverse a Christie-era regulatory change that made it easier for people to carry concealed handguns in New Jersey." Thus, "A-2758, defines what applicants for a handgun permit need to show in order to demonstrate a 'justifiable need.'"

Hence, the state will determine "justifiable need." Thomas R. Rogers, a New Jersey resident who passed the required background checks, completed required firearm training courses and met every other requirement to be eligible to obtain a permit to carry firearms in public was denied his Second Amendment constitutional right because he could not "establish a clear and present threat to his safety." This despite the fact that he was robbed at gunpoint many years ago and now services ATMs in high crime areas.

Another proposal, A-2757, would require all firearm sales to be conducted through a licensed retail dealer, who would then have to conduct a background check on the intended recipient. Thus, the measure "is designed to require background checks for private gun sales, although the legislation has exceptions for transactions between family members, law enforcement offices and collectors." Consequently, the bureaucrats decide.

t is ironic that Murphy is speaking against the backdrop of the JCRC (Jewish Community Relations Council), many of whom take a liberal stance and may not know the history of gun control and the Holocaust.

In Gun Control in the Third Reich, author Stephen P. Halbrook demonstrates how "effectively totalitarians and mass murderers have relied upon gun registration and other firearms controls to round up 'enemies of the state.' Hitler, Stalin, Castro, and Mussolini all seized upon gun laws to punish, incarcerate, and even exterminate their opponents, while permitting their own evil cliques to expand and strengthen the state and party monopolies on gun ownership."

Particularly telling is the fact that it was not Hitler who initiated gun controls. Rather, "extensive gun registration and controls were actually implemented by liberal Weimar Republic leaders in the late 1920s." It is also illuminating that "[t]he German subsidiary of IBM ... provided the dictatorship with its new punch card and card-sorting system, allowing for an enormous amount of data ... to be stored ... per card. This was very useful to the 'census' reports that Nazis were assiduously compiling and cataloguing."

Consider the massive accumulation of information that the IRS and now Facebook and other social media sites have been compiling on Americans. Then there are the incremental attacks on our First Amendment rights and the recent government assault on Fourth and Sixth Amendment rights.

Moreover, in this day and age of identity politics, when one blithely checks off racial categories on college registration forms or is asked about gun ownership at the doctor's office we should not be so na´ve about possible nefarious intentions.

As documented in Halbrook's book, "mayoral administration and appointed police leaders in Buffalo, New York declared their intention to descend upon the homes of recently deceased Buffalonians who, as determined by 'crosschecking' (no IBM punch card system needed in 2015) were also legally permitted gun owners. Their mission: to remove firearms from the decedents' homes, while families and friends are still grieving and organizing their loved ones' wills and affairs. In their plan, Buffalo officials would execute this ghoulish confiscation scheme before families had time to consider whether to apply for retention of the family firearm, or perhaps to make a gift to another relative or responsible party."


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Posted 23 April 2018 - 09:29 AM

View Postpepperonikkid, on 23 April 2018 - 06:56 AM, said:

[*]Copper, copper alloys, brass, and steel bullets are now classified as armor-piercing "cop-killer bullets" and so prohibited, and these restrictions will be justified based on health or environmental grounds.


There are already pushes to ban lead bullets because they poison wildlife. Now they want to ban bullets that aren't made of lead. What'll we be left with? Wooden bullets. Gold or silver bullets only the super-rich can afford?
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Posted 23 April 2018 - 11:33 AM

Oh come on know, don't you all want 'common sense' gun laws?

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 12:25 PM

View Postoki, on 23 April 2018 - 11:33 AM, said:

Oh come on know, don't you all want 'common sense' gun laws?

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I'd be happier with more widespread common sense, period.

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 01:41 PM

This has been going on for decades and will lead to the eventual severe restrictions on the ownership of guns and ammo.

We need the NRA more than ever and if you don't have guns and ammo you need to get some now. And if you have guns and ammo you need to get more. Eventually the government will want to take them all including all your ammo.
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Posted 23 April 2018 - 02:40 PM

View PostMontyPython, on 23 April 2018 - 12:25 PM, said:

I'd be happier with more widespread common sense, period.

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BUt but guns are icky and evil and mean and scaarrryyyy... especially black Army guns and with 1000 round clips that can shoot like 10,000 bullets in a second! And no ones 'needs' them anyways. How am I doing?

Truth is Gun owners have continually given more and more over they years and not a one of the promises from the anti gun left has either been kept or happened. Finally, we have said enough is enough. All the while everything that has been given up or compromised on is never mentioned and we are continually accused of not be willing to meet them in the middle. What middle? All we have been doing is back up and have finally said no more.

Wisconsin is a perfect example of how it's not a gun problem. Why does one city which makes up at best about 10 percent of the whole states population account for over half the murders? Common sense would tell anyone with a brain that if it was a guns or law issue the entire state should have similar issues. The other thing I find telling is the same people who scream about voter I.D. don't seem to realize that gun laws hurt those same people just as much. IE if it's a burden for a poor person to get a photo I.D. to vote imagine what it must be like if they are trying to legally purchase a firearm, especially in states where you have to have to register or get permission?

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 03:03 PM

View Postintotheblackhole, on 23 April 2018 - 01:41 PM, said:

This has been going on for decades and will lead to the eventual severe restrictions on the ownership of guns and ammo.

We need the NRA more than ever and if you don't have guns and ammo you need to get some now. And if you have guns and ammo you need to get more. Eventually the government will want to take them all including all your ammo.

Also, you need to report them stolen. Now you have no guns!
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Posted 23 April 2018 - 03:05 PM

View Postoki, on 23 April 2018 - 02:40 PM, said:

BUt but guns are icky and evil and mean and scaarrryyyy... especially black Army guns and with 1000 round clips that can shoot like 10,000 bullets in a second! And no ones 'needs' them anyways. How am I doing?


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View Postoki, on 23 April 2018 - 02:40 PM, said:

Truth is Gun owners have continually given more and more over they years and not a one of the promises from the anti gun left has either been kept or happened. Finally, we have said enough is enough. All the while everything that has been given up or compromised on is never mentioned and we are continually accused of not be willing to meet them in the middle. What middle? All we have been doing is back up and have finally said no more.

Wisconsin is a perfect example of how it's not a gun problem. Why does one city which makes up at best about 10 percent of the whole states population account for over half the murders? Common sense would tell anyone with a brain that if it was a guns or law issue the entire state should have similar issues. The other thing I find telling is the same people who scream about voter I.D. don't seem to realize that gun laws hurt those same people just as much. IE if it's a burden for a poor person to get a photo I.D. to vote imagine what it must be like if they are trying to legally purchase a firearm, especially in states where you have to have to register or get permission?

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Posted 23 April 2018 - 05:36 PM

View Postzurg, on 23 April 2018 - 03:03 PM, said:

Also, you need to report them stolen. Now you have no guns!


Yea, but if you get busted then you have stolen guns and may be charged with filling a false police report.

Just spray them with cosmoline and bury them in sewer pipe with lots of ammo. I did that with a bunch of cheap MAC 90's and put them in schedule 80 sewer pipe about 25 years ago. I got a case of them for $59 each and buried 8 of them with 3000 rounds of ammo each.
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