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#1 User is offline   Gertie Keddle 

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 05:51 AM

Blurred lines: A pregnant man's tragedy tests gender notions
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When the man arrived at the hospital with severe abdominal pains, a nurse didn't consider it an emergency, noting that he was obese and had stopped taking blood pressure medicines. In reality, he was pregnant -- a transgender man in labour that was about to end in a stillbirth.

"The point is not what's happened to this particular individual but this is an example of what happens to transgender people interacting with the health care system," said the lead author, Dr. Daphna Stroumsa of the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor.

Transgender men, who are considered female at birth but who identify as male, may or may not be using masculinizing hormones or have had surgical alterations, such as womb removal.

Several hours later, a doctor evaluated him and the hospital test confirmed pregnancy. An ultrasound showed unclear signs of fetal heart activity, and an exam revealed that part of the umbilical cord had slipped into the birth canal. Doctors prepared to do an emergency cesarean delivery, but in the operating room no fetal heartbeat was heard. Moments later, the man delivered a stillborn baby.

"Medical training should include exposure to transgender patients" so health workers are better able to meet their needs, Wexler said. "A lot of doctors who are practicing didn't have that in their training" but can still learn from such patients now.

Health records may use male/female templates for gender but "it doesn't mean that we just throw out critical thinking or think about how humans are diverse," Rider said.

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 06:05 AM

Stupid headline. If it’s a “man”, there can’t be a pregnancy. Since this person was pregnant, this person is not a man. This person was pretending to be a man. There is nothing wrong with that - unless the person is suffering from mental illness. I have no problem with men pretending to be women, and I have no problem with women pretending to be men. But we can stop the make-believe when reality hits us in the face: a pregnant person cannot be a man. There’s nothing blurred about that line.
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Posted 17 May 2019 - 06:34 AM

Brave new world indeed.
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Posted 17 May 2019 - 06:40 AM

These people are friggin retarded. Period.
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Posted 17 May 2019 - 10:38 AM

It is one thing to be transgender, but you had better be open and honest with medical professionals when the need for them arises. How can they treat what they don't know? Don't blame medical training if the patient isn't open with the doctor, especially in an emergency with an ER doctor who has never treated that person before. Everyone has to take some responsibility for themselves at times.
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Posted 17 May 2019 - 11:00 AM

A guideline in medicine is that when you hear hoof beats, think horse, not zebra. In other words, consider the most likely causes for health problems before going on to much less likely possibilities. So when a patient comes in with abdominal pains and the chart says "male" then yes, it's possible that the person is transgender and pregnant, but that's much less likely than lots of other more common causes. If you want to speed up the diagnosis, it's YOUR responsibility to let the medical staff know of any less-common circumstances, like you recently got back from a trip to the tropics or your biology doesn't match the gender listed on their chart.
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Posted 17 May 2019 - 12:07 PM

To those of us who haven't sacrificed their sanity on the altar of political correctness. This is fairly clear and straightforward.

To the insane, I can see how this can be confusing.
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Posted 17 May 2019 - 02:21 PM

The chick masquerading as a 'dude' is responsible for lying-by-omission to the hospital staff.

You want to be a dude, but you still have female parts, then it is on you to let medical staff know, otherwise any probs resulting from the female part of the anatomy are on you.
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Posted 17 May 2019 - 03:47 PM

View PostASE, on 17 May 2019 - 02:21 PM, said:

The chick masquerading as a 'dude' is responsible for lying-by-omission to the hospital staff.

You want to be a dude, but you still have female parts, then it is on you to let medical staff know, otherwise any probs resulting from the female part of the anatomy are on you.


Also it's not like women can get pregnant from sitting on a park bench.

This 'man' had sexual intercourse with another man. Most likely voluntarily. There is no mention of rape.

This is not the behavior of someone who wants to be a man.
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Posted 17 May 2019 - 04:26 PM

View PostTikk, on 17 May 2019 - 03:47 PM, said:

Also it's not like women can get pregnant from sitting on a park bench.

This 'man' had sexual intercourse with another man. Most likely voluntarily. There is no mention of rape.

This is not the behavior of someone who wants to be a man.


That was my first thought too. I mean, if this person is a lesbian, then how did she get pregnant in the first place? And if she isn't a lesbian, why was she masquerading as a man?

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 07:08 PM

View PostMontyPython, on 17 May 2019 - 04:26 PM, said:

That was my first thought too. I mean, if this person is a lesbian, then how did she get pregnant in the first place? And if she isn't a lesbian, why was she masquerading as a man?

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Trendy.... Think of the poor slob who going have to pay till the kid's 18. What a bone head:)
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Posted 20 May 2019 - 06:12 PM

It seems to me the system worked. A freak decided to further pervert the gender roles in society through various furry kittened lifestyle choices and activities, wound up pregnant and the resultant baby, who obviously would carry defective genes into the future was taken out of the gene pool, thus saving society from propagating what clearly needed to be culled out of the gene pool. I am missing a down side.

The tragedy for society and culture is the weirdo appears to have survived. I am peripherally involved agricultural and pomological breeding programs. Part of stabilizing or improving a line is the relentlessly culling out defective, subpar, or inferior genetics. As a matter of evolution some very small percentage of mutation may be beneficial as it allows for adaptation. In our society, a hallmark is we have compassion for adverse genetic conditions. However that number should be very small and carried on the backs of the rest of society out of compassion, and not encouraged to replicate and propagate.(as, unfortunately is encouraged by some in the deaf community – for example)
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Posted 24 May 2019 - 11:55 PM

And how long until this 'man's' tragedy is converted into a lawsuit?
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