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When Leaders Let You Down

Ever since I first heard the news that former Senator John Edwards admitted to having an affair, I have been wondering how the folks over at the Democrat Underground have been handling it. Edwards, being the one candidate who totally ran on a leftists' agenda, not ever pretending to be a Centrist, was a big figure on the far left.

But the main reason, I was thinking about Democrat Underground posters instead of others was because I knew that Elizabeth Edwards was a somewhat regular poster on that site. From what I had seen, she was pretty-well loved at DU. Not to mention her fight with cancer making her that much more a sympathetic figure.

I figured with them feeling personally close to Elizabeth and wishing beyond hope that Edwards could have won the Democrat nomination for President that they would be pretty torn about Edwards' confession.

I finally got a chance to go see for myself and here are just a few examples of what I found:

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Debi (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-08-08 03:31 PM
Edwards should not have run for President - or at the very least should have dropped out sooner What if he would have won the nomination? Where would our party be? Who would have performed better in the early states if Edwards wasn't there?

This isn't just about his marriage and his family (and that of his mistress) - when he cheats on his wife while running for President it's also about all of the people who gave him money and voted for him.

bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-08-08 03:32 PM
Well, he dropped out soon enough. I was wondering if something fishy was going on when he dropped out just before Super Tuesday, which made no sense at the time.

Generator (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-08-08 03:34 PM
Yeah finally we have an explanation Oh happy day! Maybe he could have survived an affair in the public's eyes-but not with a sick wife. He should have never run.

Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-08-08 03:37 PM
At the time, I thought that John Edwards had decided to help Obama... by dropping out.

saracat (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-08-08 03:46 PM
Well, guess they will be digging around now, won't they?And if Edwards is a POS, what does that make all the other candidates and their galplas? Sheesh. Must be nice to be so "perfect".

Truth Hurts A Lot (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-08-08 03:50 PM
Wow! Are you the lone DUer defending this?! nt

saracat (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-08-08 03:54 PM
"Could be" So what? Just as with Clinton, sex is sex, and this is between John and Elizabeth. Elizabeth knew and still supported him. And this is someone elses business how? And I supported Edwards and was a surrogate.It is still NOT my business.

cottonseed (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-08-08 03:59 PM
It's everyone's business when Edwards goes on Nightline and decides to run for president thinking that he'd hide this? or no one would care? Whoever supported this guy should be pissed and feel cheated, even embarrased. I think after crying when Edwards endorsed Obama, you should have stuck with your gut and not trusted him any longer. I wouldn't be defending him now on this. Just makes a person look dumb.

From anger to excuses, to down-right disappointment, it seems their responses run the gamut.

Sure it's easy to make fun of them for falling for this snake-oil salesman but being disappointed in a leader does not just happen on the left. Look at what we on the right have been through and how we reacted.

Remember what you felt when former Senator Fred Thompson dropped out of the race for the Republican Presidential nomination? Remember how disappointed, angry and sad you felt? Did you not feel like he had built you up only to let you down? Did you not feel like there was hardly anyone left who truly cared about the Constitution?

Then of course, many of us switched our allegiance to former Governor Romney, only to have him drop out shortly thereafter.

And what about President Bush? I remember the excitement that most of us felt when he was running and how emotionally involved we were with his candidacy. I also remember many of us on the right and the left being sorely grateful that Bush was the President on September 11th.

Yet, he let many of his supporters down when it came to spending. That was when the first wave of disappointment in him started, at least on the right. Then of course, there was his support of amnesty for illegals and his refusal to pardon Compean and Ramos that pretty much put the nail in most of the rest of his support.

What is it about man that makes us want a leader so badly? Sure, we no longer want Kings or even very powerful Presidents but still, you don't have to be an Einstein to see how badly most Americans want a real and strong leader.

I wonder if our leaders realize how important their role is and how much responsibility they hold for the general morale of their fellow countrymen. If they do know, do they not care that their actions or lack thereof can greatly sour many a voters hopes and dreams that we could ever trust a leader again?

In one sense, these types of disappointments lend themselves to the credence that it is better to pick leaders that are already known as cads since we won't have such high expectations for them.

Still is that anyway to pick a leader?

As for me, I still want a leader that is honest, full of character and integrity that really means it when he promises to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. My only question is, where is he?

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As for me, I still want a leader that is honest, full of character and integrity that really means it when he promises to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. My only question is, where is he?

He passed away on June 5, 2004 :D
And we are, for the now, left with those that remain.
Not a one of whom any longer even mentions his name in their efforts to convince the rest of us they are anything at all like him.
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USNJIMRET, on Aug 9 2008, 02:30 PM, said:

He passed away on June 5, 2004 :D
And we are, for the now, left with those that remain.
Not a one of whom any longer even mentions his name in their efforts to convince the rest of us they are anything at all like him.

That's because they are too ignorant to realize the only reason a so-called moderate won the Presidential nomination was because the Conservatives split their votes among the others.

God bless President Reagan for his love of our country and us. http://i147.photobuc...es%203/usaf.gif
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It does seem that the political leaders of today are just too involved in the political give and take to be concerned about what the majority of people who voted them in really care about. Personally I think many of these politicians are more concerned with pleasing their financial constituencies, then pleasing themselves while we seem to get whatever they think will sell us as suitable policy. I'm sure there are a few out there that would be more than willing to take the reigns and perform their duty as a true leader if not for the fact that when they try and sell us the notion of love of God and country without some kind of handout, they wouldn't even scrape enough votes to make it to the primaries. Look at Gary Bauer as a perfect example of someone who is committed, only to be written off as some kind of religious extremist.


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OOtar, on Aug 9 2008, 08:58 PM, said:

It does seem that the political leaders of today are just too involved in the political give and take to be concerned about what the majority of people who voted them in really care about. Personally I think many of these politicians are more concerned with pleasing their financial constituencies, then pleasing themselves while we seem to get whatever they think will sell us as suitable policy. I'm sure there are a few out there that would be more than willing to take the reigns and perform their duty as a true leader if not for the fact that when they try and sell us the notion of love of God and country without some kind of handout, they wouldn't even scrape enough votes to make it to the primaries. Look at Gary Bauer as a perfect example of someone who is committed, only to be written off as some kind of religious extremist.
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Sadly, what you said about Gary Bauer is definitely true. It's pretty bad when an extremist is now defined as someone who really means it.
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What is it about man that makes us want a leader so badly? Sure, we no longer want Kings or even very powerful Presidents but still, you don't have to be an Einstein to see how badly most Americans want a real and strong leader.


Because, as a collective whole we wish to see our lives continue to run as smoothly as possible. While we all can't be leaders we expect to wake up the next day knowing the world we find hasn't changed much. That security allows us to concentrate on other things. Often times meaningless trivial pursuits. The real irony is how much complaining we do about those who lead. If we were to have a true great leader who would we blame when things don't go so well? Oddly enough thats something that conservatives, liberals, libertarians, hell...even communists have in common. We can all find fault with our leaders & in so doing, hide our own faults from ourselves.

So we settle for less, even though we know that a strong leader could help make & inspire this nation to be better than it is.

Truthfully ilja, I've grown tired of the whole game lately.
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quixoticconundrum, on Aug 9 2008, 10:56 PM, said:

Because, as a collective whole we wish to see our lives continue to run as smoothly as possible. While we all can't be leaders we expect to wake up the next day knowing the world we find hasn't changed much. That security allows us to concentrate on other things. Often times meaningless trivial pursuits. The real irony is how much complaining we do about those who lead. If we were to have a true great leader who would we blame when things don't go so well? Oddly enough thats something that conservatives, liberals, libertarians, hell...even communists have in common. We can all find fault with our leaders & in so doing, hide our own faults from ourselves.

So we settle for less, even though we know that a strong leader could help make & inspire this nation to be better than it is.

Truthfully ilja, I've grown tired of the whole game lately.

That makes a whole lot of sense. It even sounds Biblical.

1 Timothy 2: 1-4
I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.


I know what you mean, quixoticconundrum. There's a part of me that feels like it doesn't make a difference who our leaders are since they all seem to be corrupt and care only about obtaining more power. But a funny thing happened while I was looking for that Bible verse. I actually read it and it hit a place in my heart that reminded me of my responsibility in all of this. I do need to continue to pray for our leaders, no matter who they are and no matter which party they are in. After all, He has told us to pray ceaselessly. :D
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OOtar, on Aug 9 2008, 06:58 PM, said:

It does seem that the political leaders of today are just too involved in the political give and take to be concerned about what the majority of people who voted them in really care about. Personally I think many of these politicians are more concerned with pleasing their financial constituencies, then pleasing themselves while we seem to get whatever they think will sell us as suitable policy. I'm sure there are a few out there that would be more than willing to take the reigns and perform their duty as a true leader if not for the fact that when they try and sell us the notion of love of God and country without some kind of handout, they wouldn't even scrape enough votes to make it to the primaries. Look at Gary Bauer as a perfect example of someone who is committed, only to be written off as some kind of religious extremist.
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This is exactly right OOtar. What it all boils down to is that there is an essential conflict between Leadership and Politics in our current system. True leadership involves knowing when and how to occasionally say "No" to people, whereas in Politics you get elected by saying "Yes" to as many people as possible.
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One lesson I learned from throwing myself into the Fred Thompson campaign so thoroughly is that politicians, even the good ones, are not the proper vessels for our hopes, dreams and trust. Only in God, through his Son Our Lord Jesus Christ, should we put those things. To the politicians who are worthy, we should only give our support, and, if we're not expecting any return on our investment, some of our currency. Otherwise, we're in for a big letdown.
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Adam Smithee, on Aug 10 2008, 01:22 PM, said:

OOtar, on Aug 9 2008, 06:58 PM, said:

It does seem that the political leaders of today are just too involved in the political give and take to be concerned about what the majority of people who voted them in really care about. Personally I think many of these politicians are more concerned with pleasing their financial constituencies, then pleasing themselves while we seem to get whatever they think will sell us as suitable policy. I'm sure there are a few out there that would be more than willing to take the reigns and perform their duty as a true leader if not for the fact that when they try and sell us the notion of love of God and country without some kind of handout, they wouldn't even scrape enough votes to make it to the primaries. Look at Gary Bauer as a perfect example of someone who is committed, only to be written off as some kind of religious extremist.
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This is exactly right OOtar. What it all boils down to is that there is an essential conflict between Leadership and Politics in our current system. True leadership involves knowing when and how to occasionally say "No" to people, whereas in Politics you get elected by saying "Yes" to as many people as possible.

But it can happen. It happened once in our lifetime.

Josh Painter, on Aug 11 2008, 10:25 AM, said:

One lesson I learned from throwing myself into the Fred Thompson campaign so thoroughly is that politicians, even the good ones, are not the proper vessels for our hopes, dreams and trust. Only in God, through his Son Our Lord Jesus Christ, should we put those things. To the politicians who are worthy, we should only give our support, and, if we're not expecting any return on our investment, some of our currency. Otherwise, we're in for a big letdown.

All too true, Josh. I had a lot of hope in Fred but I don't think I ever truly trusted him as much as the others. Still it hurts to this day.
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