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I just finished watching Herman Cain on Fox News Sunday and am beside myself with worry that he just gave a sound bite that could seriously derail his Presidential campaign.

Chris Wallace was asking Cain about his financial plans in relation to the raising of the debt ceiling, when Cain responded that the problems with how this has all been handled is that leaders in Congress have waited too late to address this issue. Cain was talking about the reasons why it would be good to not raise the debt ceiling and how serious consequences of not doing so could be avoided. However, in the end of this portion of the interview Cain emphasized that Congress has put this off for so long that his own ideas might not be workable.

Chris pressed him on this and Cain stated in a clear sound bite that the Cain doctrine won't work. While Cain was talking about this particular instance, he still said what he said.

I may have some of the details off a bit, he might have said can't or cannot work, but I cannot believe Cain just gave his opponents such a gift.

I'm sure it's just a matter of political inexperience but still, I can just imagine all the different ways such a quote by Cain could be used in political ads.

While I haven't completely decided on a candidate yet, Cain has been one of my top favorites and after his fabulous speech yesterday, I was getting pretty excited.

Am I worried for nothing? Is this simply a blimp on the radar screen that won't mean much in 18 months? Perhaps this will end up being a very valuable learning moment for Cain that in the end will be a blessing instead of a curse. The longer I wait to hit publish, the less important this seems. I like the fact that he talks from the hip instead of using a teleprompter.

Either way, we will probably get an idea of how Cain will handle a Newt-in-mouth moment.

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Cain does not have the luxury of 18 months. He has to nail it now, or lose it forever. His pause regarding the "right to return" was also a flub. Plus, Wallace completely wrote Cain off during the round table discussion of GOP candidates. This is a tremendous uphill battle for Cain. I like him a lot, but this may be the most underdog candidacy that I have ever seen. However, if anyone can pull off a huge underdog candidacy, it is Herman Cain. I'm just glad he is in the mix. He will elevate whatever debate he is in, and will make the other candidates work harder.
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I noticed the right of return blank look on his face, too. I'm just hoping that we are so politically aware that things that jump out to us are not as impactful to others, in this situation anyway. You're right of course. There is a reason Cain is in this and he will definitely add to the debate a common sense real world perspective that would be otherwise lacking.
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I think we need to sit back and watch how he recovers from this error. I am sure he's going to come back with a revamped plan. I prefer someone who won't lie to me over someone that will continue telling me the world is all roses but we know better.
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True, but he has very little room for error. The only reason he is given the press he has had is because of his surprise performance at the GOP debate. Otherwise, he would not be anywhere. If he continues to slip, he is toast in a very short time.And I think I have made it pretty clear that I support the guy. I think he is what America needs right now. I'm curious to see how much money he has raised. He has tweeted that he has exceeded his 5/21 fund-raising goal. If the goal was only $10,000, big whoop. Let's how much cash he has gotten from his recent exposure. Money is his real uphill battle.
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laziter, on 22 May 2011 - 10:48 AM, said:

I think we need to sit back and watch how he recovers from this error. I am sure he's going to come back with a revamped plan. I prefer someone who won't lie to me over someone that will continue telling me the world is all roses but we know better.
Yes, I agree. As you might be able to tell by the sound of my blog, my first reaction was panic. However, the more time that passed and the longer I thought about it, the less important I thought this one instance might actually be in the long run. I guess this is why I'm still on the fence when it comes to picking my favorite candidate. My fredhead heartbreak touched me so deeply that I'm learning that you should not get too attached to any one candidate, at least until you have a chance to actually vote for that candidate.
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ilja, on 22 May 2011 - 10:59 AM, said:

laziter, on 22 May 2011 - 10:48 AM, said:

I think we need to sit back and watch how he recovers from this error. I am sure he's going to come back with a revamped plan. I prefer someone who won't lie to me over someone that will continue telling me the world is all roses but we know better.
Yes, I agree. As you might be able to tell by the sound of my blog, my first reaction was panic. However, the more time that passed and the longer I thought about it, the less important I thought this one instance might actually be in the long run. I guess this is why I'm still on the fence when it comes to picking my favorite candidate. My fredhead heartbreak touched me so deeply that I'm learning that you should not get too attached to any one candidate, at least until you have a chance to actually vote for that candidate.
I think that is a wise thought. :rantoff:
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I haven't seen it yet but will at 6:00 pm on the replay. I'll let y'all know my take on it then. Keep in mind Chris Wallace is a bit of a slash and burn guy and loves to make his guests squirm.
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If this is the worst he does, he'll be fine. I'm worried about him coming on strong late in the game and then making a big gaffe.Like we say in football, if you're going to lose a game, lose it early in the season.
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GOP presidential hopeful Herman Cain said Sunday he doesn’t have a plan for the war on terror and won’t share his thoughts with voters until he gets into the White House.“The right approach is that the day I’m elected, I would start on that plan,” he told “Fox Sunday News.”Mr. Cain, former Godfather’s Pizza CEO, said he can’t make those decisions until he sees intelligence files that he is not privy to at this point.“I think it is disingenuous to tell the American people what I would do,” he said.http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/may/22/cain-no-talk-about-security-until-elected/?sms_ss=facebook&at_xt=4dd934295fb3fbcf%2C0thats not good
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JacobG19, on 22 May 2011 - 01:14 PM, said:

GOP presidential hopeful Herman Cain said Sunday he doesn’t have a plan for the war on terror and won’t share his thoughts with voters until he gets into the White House.“The right approach is that the day I’m elected, I would start on that plan,” he told “Fox Sunday News.”Mr. Cain, former Godfather’s Pizza CEO, said he can’t make those decisions until he sees intelligence files that he is not privy to at this point.“I think it is disingenuous to tell the American people what I would do,” he said.http://www.washingto...4295fb3fbcf%2C0thats not good
That's also not what he said. He actually answered this more honestly than any politician I have ever seen. Wallace asked specifically what he would do in regards to Afghanistan. Cain answered he could not say because he has not seen all of the intelligence and would rationaly make decisions based on the knowledge learned from said sources. For example, Obama claimed what he would do while running for office. Once in, Obama quickly, and quietly, changed course based on the knowledge he gleaned from the information he was not privy to on the campaign trail. That is the point Mr. Cain was making.
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He blew it even worse on his response about Israel. I am stunned and disappointed he was not prepared on obvious questions certain to be asked. He also doesn't know the issues.
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Coach, on 22 May 2011 - 12:37 PM, said:

I haven't seen it yet but will at 6:00 pm on the replay. I'll let y'all know my take on it then. Keep in mind Chris Wallace is a bit of a slash and burn guy and loves to make his guests squirm.
Yes, Wallace is good at that which is what makes his interviews so interesting to watch. Wallace did not try and trip up Cain instead he simply made him answer his pointed questions. This time anyway.
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Mr. Naron, on 22 May 2011 - 12:51 PM, said:

If this is the worst he does, he'll be fine. I'm worried about him coming on strong late in the game and then making a big gaffe.Like we say in football, if you're going to lose a game, lose it early in the season.
I love football. I'll see if I can't hold onto this and hope it works.
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furrpiece, on 22 May 2011 - 01:35 PM, said:

He blew it even worse on his response about Israel. I am stunned and disappointed he was not prepared on obvious questions certain to be asked. He also doesn't know the issues.
I personally don't think the right of return answer was nearly as bad since he obviously had no clue what he was talking about. It's the sound bite that I think will have a greater negative usage by his opponents.
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No, no and NO ! Cain did not blow the debt ceiling answer. He gave an honest answer and made it plain that the democrats and Republicans have put us in a corner by failing to deal with it sooner. That does not preclude dealing with the problem on different terms. But at the minimum his statement re: paying of the debt, covering current Social Security obligations, Medicare and the military is sound and the only place to rationally start.I don't think Chris Wallace laid a glove on Herman.
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Nor did he blow it on the right of return. He emphasized it should be up to the Israelis to determine if and how to negotiate with the Palestinians. Contrast that with Baraq's dictitorial preaching to Netanyahu. Also while I'm on it. I watched the first couple of minutes of the Mitch McConnell interview and was struck by the contrast with Herman. One was direct open and honest and the other was mush mouth political speak. You figur it out. Some of us need to get with the program and quit looking for boogy men hiding in closets.Herman Cain can take care of himself and has no problem admitting when he doesn't have all the answers as when he responded to questions on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Coach, on 22 May 2011 - 05:28 PM, said:

No, no and NO ! Cain did not blow the debt ceiling answer. He gave an honest answer and made it plain that the democrats and Republicans have put us in a corner by failing to deal with it sooner. That does not preclude dealing with the problem on different terms. But at the minimum his statement re: paying of the debt, covering current Social Security obligations, Medicare and the military is sound and the only place to rationally start.I don't think Chris Wallace laid a glove on Herman.
So you don't think his sound bite, the Cain doctrine won't work will come back to bite him in the bootie?
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Well, I have the luxury of being aloof and taking a "wait and see attitude" so take what I have to say accordingly. I don't have to make a decision in the primary; I'm in Oregon where, being one of the later states in the process, we have virtually zero say in the primary itself. By the time the primary gets to Oregon, for all intents and purposes the nominee is already decided - the only question is whether or not to show up at the poll to indicate how STRONGLY you support the presumptive nominee. This is itself has always been a good indicator of how the General Election will go but has zero effect on the primary. That said, I don't think this soundbite will matter or will change anyone's mind. To be a Cain supporter, one has to overlook his political inexperience. If you were willing to overlook it before, you're probably STILL willing to overlook it. If you weren't then you probably still aren't. Nothing has changed. Personally, I don't think Cain has a chance anyway. Yes, I know he does well in the straw polls at the moment. So does Ron Paul (my own personal favorite) who ALSO has absolutely zero chance of being nominated. What is means is that both Cain and Paul do well amongst those who are engaged enough to take part in straw polls at this early date...and means exactly squat later on amongst the wider audience.
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Adam Smithee, on 23 May 2011 - 01:35 PM, said:

Well, I have the luxury of being aloof and taking a "wait and see attitude" so take what I have to say accordingly. I don't have to make a decision in the primary; I'm in Oregon where, being one of the later states in the process, we have virtually zero say in the primary itself. By the time the primary gets to Oregon, for all intents and purposes the nominee is already decided - the only question is whether or not to show up at the poll to indicate how STRONGLY you support the presumptive nominee. This is itself has always been a good indicator of how the General Election will go but has zero effect on the primary. That said, I don't think this soundbite will matter or will change anyone's mind. To be a Cain supporter, one has to overlook his political inexperience. If you were willing to overlook it before, you're probably STILL willing to overlook it. If you weren't then you probably still aren't. Nothing has changed. Personally, I don't think Cain has a chance anyway. Yes, I know he does well in the straw polls at the moment. So does Ron Paul (my own personal favorite) who ALSO has absolutely zero chance of being nominated. What is means is that both Cain and Paul do well amongst those who are engaged enough to take part in straw polls at this early date...and means exactly squat later on amongst the wider audience.
And I think we have it bad in TN. At least we can pretend that our primary votes matter. I know you are probably correct. Still I don't want to give up yet. I don't want to give the Republican elite the joy of seeing us do exactly what they want. I said that as if they even know we exist.
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Guest, on 03 June 2011 - 11:51 PM, said:

Real brain power on display. Thnaks for that answer!
Who are you? How can I know if I don't you you if you are being a smart aleck or not? :rofl:
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