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  Posted 15 November 2019 - 03:57 AM

Federal Judge Rules U.S.-Born ‘ISIS Bride’ Not an American Citizen, U.S. Not Required to Repatriate Her

Zachary Evans
National Review/Yahoo
11/14/19

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A federal judge ruled Thursday that 25-year-old Hoda Muthana, who lived in Alabama but left the U.S. in 2014 to join ISIS, is not an American citizen and therefore the country is not required to repatriate her.

Muthana is the daughter of Yemen’s former ambassador to the United Nations, Ahmed Ali Muthana. Judge Reggie Walton ruled that because Hoda was born while Ahmed Ali still had diplomatic status, Hoda could not be considered a U.S. citizen. Ahmed Ali has since become a naturalized citizen.

In addition, Walton ruled that Ahmed Ali cannot provide financial aid to his daughter, who escaped from ISIS to a Kurdish refugee camp in 2018. Hoda Muthana has a son, Adam, who was born in ISIS territory.

U.S. law prevents the children of foreign diplomats from receiving American citizenship by birthright. Lawyers for Muthana’s family had claimed Ahmed Ali’s diplomatic status expired two months before Hoda’s birth in New Jersey, a claim apparently rejected by Judge Walton.

Muthana had previously said in an interview that she wished to return to the U.S.

“I want my son to be around my family, I want to go to school, I want to have a job and I want to have my own car,” she said in an interview with NBC.

The woman had previously called on jihadists in the U.S. to “go on drivebys, and spill all of their blood.”

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 04:07 AM

Awww... das too bad.




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Posted 15 November 2019 - 04:54 AM

View PostModerator T, on 15 November 2019 - 03:57 AM, said:

Federal Judge Rules U.S.-Born ‘ISIS Bride’ Not an American Citizen, U.S. Not Required to Repatriate Her

“I want my son to be around my family, I want to go to school, I want to have a job and I want to have my own car,” she said in an interview with NBC.

Well, rather sad that you only realize that NOW.
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 06:50 AM

She has a lot of wants don't she? Apparently she was "radicalized" when she went to a website online. Sorry no, she was radicalized and crazy BEFORE she went to a website and started looking at condensed crazy on a page. The website is not some mental virus that makes you suddenly crazy. This woman was nuts looking for an asylum to happen. Not the other way around. As far as her status, screw her. We the people don't need her. She can go live in one of those socialist islamist utopia's she wanted to impose upon us.
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 06:55 AM

Doesn't NBC have better things to do than give this terrorist sympathizer publicity?! It's too bad it took this for her to realize just how good she had it in America, are you paying attention Lefties?!
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 09:43 AM

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In addition, Walton ruled that Ahmed Ali cannot provide financial aid to his daughter, who escaped from ISIS to a Kurdish refugee camp in 2018. Hoda Muthana has a son, Adam, who was born in ISIS territory.


So he cannot send his daughter money.. What about his grandson?
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 09:51 AM

The choices we make have consequences. She can get in line and apply for citizenship like anybody else where she is and go through the process. Background checks etc. it can be decided if she is someone we would want here. Maybe after serving time for any crimes she may have commited...

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 09:58 AM

View PostLadybird, on 15 November 2019 - 09:43 AM, said:

So he cannot send his daughter money.. What about his grandson?


Obviously you missed the part about providing aid and comfort to the enemy. Sorry some decisions have consequences. Where is the nice muslim hospitality we hear so much about? Why can't they take care of her in the nation she is actually a citizen of? She's a citizen of Yemen. She can turn herself in there and daddy can bounce back to his nation of origin and provide all the material support she needs there. Why do we have to provide her with a place to air her grievances for the next 50+ years?
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 10:01 AM

View Postsearcher, on 15 November 2019 - 09:51 AM, said:

The choices we make have consequences. She can get in line and apply for citizenship like anybody else where she is and go through the process. Background checks etc. it can be decided if she is someone we would want here. Maybe after serving time for any crimes she may have commited...

Mark


She is not eligible to apply for citizenship. She cannot demonstrate "good moral character". Being a member of a terror organization does not demonstrate that now does it?
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 10:23 AM

View PostLadybird, on 15 November 2019 - 09:43 AM, said:

So he cannot send his daughter money.. What about his grandson?


No different than any one else living in this country trying to send her money.
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 10:57 AM

Just turning her life around.........Hmmm where have I heard that before?
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 11:08 AM

View PostTaggart Transcontinental, on 15 November 2019 - 09:58 AM, said:

Obviously you missed the part about providing aid and comfort to the enemy. Sorry some decisions have consequences. Where is the nice muslim hospitality we hear so much about? Why can't they take care of her in the nation she is actually a citizen of? She's a citizen of Yemen. She can turn herself in there and daddy can bounce back to his nation of origin and provide all the material support she needs there. Why do we have to provide her with a place to air her grievances for the next 50+ years?


I doubt that part was missed.

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 11:19 AM

View Postoki, on 15 November 2019 - 10:23 AM, said:

No different than any one else living in this country trying to send her money.


But can he still send money to the boy, is what I'm getting at.
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 12:25 PM

View PostLadybird, on 15 November 2019 - 11:19 AM, said:

But can he still send money to the boy, is what I'm getting at.


No he cannot, material aid to a terrorist or group is illegal.

https://www.law.corn...e/text/18/2339A
You have no idea what the money is going to or where it will be used. He can always send it and then get arrested for it. Now he's a Yemeni citizen, he can leave our nation at any time, and go back to Yemen, and provide all the material support he wants from there LEGALLY. He's more than welcome to hop on that plane and take possession of his daughter and her child.

What you are actually getting at is how can he circumvent the law and provide for her until he can convince a Democrat President to give her immunity from our laws. Because you know she's a victim.... (of her own stupidity).

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 12:35 PM

I can't deny I feel sincerely sorry for the kid in question. Clearly he's guilty of none of the sins of his mother or grandfather. But as others have pointed out, he's not "abandoned" just because he can't come here, or be sent money from here. His family has plenty of other options, other countries to choose from, other places to send money from, etc.

Poor kid. But if his family gives a damn about him more than merely his usefulness as a political pawn, he'll be OK.

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 12:40 PM

View PostLadybird, on 15 November 2019 - 11:19 AM, said:

But can he still send money to the boy, is what I'm getting at.


Taggart pretty much answered this. You cannot just send money without knowing exactly whom it's going to. She has the option of leaving that country and her dad trying to get her to Yemen, but that isn't good enough, probably because she knows what kind of a crap hole the place is and she will most likely not get any sympathy from the gov or people there. So, much better to try and play the poor me, forgive me I was a fool I am so sorry game to the Americans than the Yemenis.
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 12:43 PM

View PostMontyPython, on 15 November 2019 - 12:35 PM, said:

I can't deny I feel sincerely sorry for the kid in question. Clearly he's guilty of none of the sins of his mother or grandfather. But as others have pointed out, he's not "abandoned" just because he can't come here, or be sent money from here. His family has plenty of other options, other countries to choose from, other places to send money from, etc.

Poor kid. But if his family gives a damn about him more than merely his usefulness as a political pawn, he'll be OK.

B)


Exactly
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 02:06 PM

View Postsearcher, on 15 November 2019 - 09:51 AM, said:

The choices we make have consequences. She can get in line and apply for citizenship like anybody else where she is and go through the process. Background checks etc. it can be decided if she is someone we would want here. Maybe after serving time for any crimes she may have commited...

Mark


Actually, she can't even do that now. Having joined ISIS, she's now subject to 8 USC §1424. Prohibition upon the naturalization of persons opposed to government or law, or who favor totalitarian forms of government:

(a) Notwithstanding the provisions of section 405(B ) of this Act, no person shall hereafter be naturalized as a citizen of the United States-

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(4) who advocates or teaches or who is a member of or affiliated with any organization that advocates or teaches (A) the overthrow by force or violence or other unconstitutional means of the Government of the United States or of all forms of law; or (B ) the duty, necessity, or propriety of the unlawful assaulting or killing of any officer or officers (either of specific individuals or of officers generally) of the Government of the United States or of any other organized government because of his or their official character; or (C ) the unlawful damage, injury, or destruction of property; or (D) sabotage; or...

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Posted 15 November 2019 - 02:13 PM

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Muthana is the daughter of Yemen’s former ambassador to the United Nations, Ahmed Ali Muthana


I don't imagine the grandchild is going to be living in the streets waiting for UNICEF workers to find him.

Yet another attempt to make America look inhumane and cruel to the 'plight' of children.
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Posted 15 November 2019 - 02:59 PM

View PostNH Populist, on 15 November 2019 - 06:55 AM, said:

Doesn't NBC have better things to do than give this terrorist sympathizer publicity?! It's too bad it took this for her to realize just how good she had it in America, are you paying attention Lefties?!

Nuthin But Crap LIKES anti Americans-it fits their view of the elites they cater to.
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