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  Posted 17 July 2017 - 07:27 AM

These Are The 27 Republicans Who Voted Against Studying Islamic Terror


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Daniel Greenfield
July 16, 2017


Article:


Congressman Franks introduced an amendment to study the strategic implications of Islamic doctrines in counterterrorism.

Specifically it would have required "the Secretary of Defense to conduct strategic assessments of the use of violent or unorthodox Islamic religious doctrine to support extremist or terrorist messaging and justification."

Like a number of other conservative amendments, it was defeated with the complicity of Republicans. Here are the Republicans who joined with Democrats to vote it down.

No R Amash, Justin MI 3rd
No R Sanford, Mark SC 1st
No R LoBiondo, Frank NJ 2nd
No R Fitzpatrick, Brian PA 8th
No R Young, Don AK
No R Hill, French AR 2nd
No R Buchanan, Vern FL 16th
No R Curbelo, Carlos FL 26th
No R Upton, Fred MI 6th
No R Trott, Dave MI 11th
No R Paulsen, Erik MN 3rd
No R Faso, John NY 19th
No R Katko, John NY 24th
No R Collins, Chris NY 27th
No R Turner, Michael OH 10th
No R Joyce, David OH 14th
No R Stivers, Steve OH 15th
No R Russell, Steve OK 5th
No R Walden, Greg OR 2nd
No R Costello, Ryan PA 6th
No R Meehan, Patrick PA 7th
No R Dent, Charles PA 15th
No R Comstock, Barbara VA 10th
No R Newhouse, Dan WA 4th
No R Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana FL 27th
No R Reichert, David WA 8th
No R Lewis, Jason MN 2nd

The amendment failed 217 to 208. 27 Republicans joined 190 Democrats to kill it.

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 07:50 AM

Oh, I dunno, waste of money studying something we all know?
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Posted 17 July 2017 - 11:06 AM

View PostNoclevermoniker, on 17 July 2017 - 07:50 AM, said:

Oh, I dunno, waste of money studying something we all know?


We don't know it, we can't quantify it, and we can't identify the problem properly because the left has us all up in arms about "islamophobia". To beat any problem you have to name it and identify it. Without that you are just pissing in the wind. We have been doing circles fighting the animals outside of our shores all the time ignoring the threats inside our nation.

We also have fund raising for Hamas and Hezbollah in our nation, these are problems we must deal with. Add to that threats from Islamic caliphates within our national borders (I call them that, but they aren't officially) where Military aged males are training in small group tactics and firearms. Why aren't we monitoring these places? And what are they training for? That's what this study could identify.
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Posted 17 July 2017 - 11:17 AM

View PostTaggart Transcontinental, on 17 July 2017 - 11:06 AM, said:

We don't know it, we can't quantify it, and we can't identify the problem properly because the left has us all up in arms about "islamophobia". To beat any problem you have to name it and identify it. Without that you are just pissing in the wind. We have been doing circles fighting the animals outside of our shores all the time ignoring the threats inside our nation.

We also have fund raising for Hamas and Hezbollah in our nation, these are problems we must deal with. Add to that threats from Islamic caliphates within our national borders (I call them that, but they aren't officially) where Military aged males are training in small group tactics and firearms. Why aren't we monitoring these places? And what are they training for? That's what this study could identify.


Even if we did fund a study, what would happen when it stated the already known obvious and truths? Truths some people can't handle and refuse to deal with. It will have accomplished nothing more then using money which could have went elsewhere.

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 04:41 PM

View PostTaggart Transcontinental, on 17 July 2017 - 11:06 AM, said:

We don't know it, we can't quantify it, and we can't identify the problem properly because the left has us all up in arms about "islamophobia". To beat any problem you have to name it and identify it. Without that you are just pissing in the wind. We have been doing circles fighting the animals outside of our shores all the time ignoring the threats inside our nation.

We also have fund raising for Hamas and Hezbollah in our nation, these are problems we must deal with. Add to that threats from Islamic caliphates within our national borders (I call them that, but they aren't officially) where Military aged males are training in small group tactics and firearms. Why aren't we monitoring these places? And what are they training for? That's what this study could identify.


I don't disagree with that.

But I'd be against this study because Franks (Or ANY Democrat) is FOR it. In Democrat-speak, "study" is merely dogwhistle for "Let's study how to give our foregone conclusions an appearance of substance."
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Posted 17 July 2017 - 11:02 PM

Study people who want to kill us?????

Do we study cockroaches to find out why they eat???

Screw that, use the money saved to buy bombs and bullets and kill them first.
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Posted 18 July 2017 - 04:17 AM

View Postoki, on 17 July 2017 - 11:17 AM, said:

Even if we did fund a study, what would happen when it stated the already known obvious and truths? Truths some people can't handle and refuse to deal with. It will have accomplished nothing more then using money which could have went elsewhere.

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It's like the voter fraud issue. We KNOW there is voter fraud. However the DNC stooges and their head bobbing komrades pretend that it does not exist with the "there is no proof" mantra. How do you combat that? You PROVE it. It's simple science. They created science to prove Communism (Keynesian economics) and today we have a CBO that bases it's entire premise on that flawed nonsense. They keep taking the high ground from us. We need to take it back by proving it with their own weapon systems.

Then you want them scurry off. How much do you think this study will cost? It will cost about 100 illegals welfare recipients to PROVE they are creating threats in the US. It's worth the cost long term.
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Posted 18 July 2017 - 04:19 AM

View Posttonguezilla, on 17 July 2017 - 11:02 PM, said:

Study people who want to kill us?????

Do we study cockroaches to find out why they eat???

Screw that, use the money saved to buy bombs and bullets and kill them first.


actually we did study roaches. We know what they eat, how they run, their life cycle and their weaknesses. It's how you win a battle against any threat.
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Posted 18 July 2017 - 09:27 AM

View PostTaggart Transcontinental, on 18 July 2017 - 04:19 AM, said:

actually we did study roaches. We know what they eat, how they run, their life cycle and their weaknesses. It's how you win a battle against any threat.



And roaches are still around aren't they!

But we have a study.
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Posted 18 July 2017 - 11:28 AM

View PostTaggart Transcontinental, on 18 July 2017 - 04:17 AM, said:

It's like the voter fraud issue. We KNOW there is voter fraud. However the DNC stooges and their head bobbing komrades pretend that it does not exist with the "there is no proof" mantra. How do you combat that? You PROVE it. It's simple science. They created science to prove Communism (Keynesian economics) and today we have a CBO that bases it's entire premise on that flawed nonsense. They keep taking the high ground from us. We need to take it back by proving it with their own weapon systems.

Then you want them scurry off. How much do you think this study will cost? It will cost about 100 illegals welfare recipients to PROVE they are creating threats in the US. It's worth the cost long term.


I agree with studies when the methodology isn't flawed, agenda driven, and findings not ignored. Sadly the left will simply ignore it anyways. But, like you said if it provides irrefutable evidence that can't be ignored then it will be worth it. Coarse it will simply be what we already knew at least.

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