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Alright, Mr. Wisefool. I'm posting something you didn't write. I put in about three hours work on my AP class review, so I don't feel the crush as much. And, by the way people, that's why I'm so inconsistent these days. The AP class is my #1 professional focus right now. Football is looming around the corner, too. Plus I've built a new deck and cleaned up about six years worth of detritus on our property.

So, let me ease back with some prepackaged rhetoric. Memes are great sources for this. I find this one exemplary...

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The rhetoric in these memes is fascinating. The things oversimplification can accomplish is amazing and only rivaled by the power of conflation.

1. The abortion panel begs the question. If abortion is murder, as pro lifers contend, someone absolutely should be arrested. That's the argument, not women's health. Not religious hegemony. But memes like this one steal a rhetorical base and just assume that unborn human children aren't human children.

2. The ban art panel is a gross generalization. Christians TODAY are bullies when they don't want to PAY for offensive art. But because some Christians in some other context may have been overzealous, it's exactly the same as today. It's in the same rhetorical family as argumentum Hitlerum.

But what about those other contexts? I'm not saying there are no examples of Christians protesting privately funded art exhibits they find offensive, but none come to mind. Maybe in schools? In that case, we're talking about local prerogatives. There should be local standards of decency, and Vegas shouldn't be expected to be as prudish as an Amish community, nor the other way around.

The bottom line is that panel conflates all examples of offense.

3. The atheist panel is the white hot center of the garbage fire. We'd have to form a book club before we could even discuss it. We would have to read dozens of books together in order to have the historical context and legal understanding to even speak the same language. Two books could get us started: Philip Hamburger's Separation of Church and State and Vox Day's The Irrational Atheist.

4. The gay marriage panel assumes that Christians are the only ones who oppose gay marriage. Hey, news flash, Obama opposed it in 2008 and so did Hillary. Were they bullies? It's not enough when Christians are tolerant of civil unions where if a gay couple want to call themselves married, they can while people of certain faiths don't have to condone it.

5. The rational, peaceful non-religionist in the second to last panel either doesn't know or ignores the fact that it's not possible for a Christian family to simply teach their children about God unless they want to largely withdraw from society. The question is why should the Christian family withdraw from society. On the other hand, why should the non-Christian family withdraw? The answer is that neither should have to do so. It's a massive oversimplification to boil down the tension between Christians and secularists to the former prohibiting the choices of the latter. In the way the country was originally founded, these tensions were expected. But individuals were expected to understand where they were living. There's a lot less tension if you're a Muslim living in a Christian neighborhood and you understand that Christians are going to display crosses and say Merry Christmas. And there's a lot less tension if you're a Christian living in Vegas if you understand people are going to drink and gamble. It gets really bad when either side tries to impose a one size fits all, my way or the highway standard on the whole entire country.

But that's the goal of that meme.

My Mind is Clean (H/T Dickey Joe Lockler)
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I wondered where that pile of garbage in my back yard came from...
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wisefool, on 28 March 2016 - 03:45 PM, said:

I wondered where that pile of garbage in my back yard came from...

They better give you the $300.
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Mr. Naron, on 28 March 2016 - 03:50 PM, said:

wisefool, on 28 March 2016 - 03:45 PM, said:

I wondered where that pile of garbage in my back yard came from...
They better give you the $300.


No, it's cool. That's the nice thing about the High Desert, you just call your garbage "yard art" and nobody cares. :cowboy:
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The thing about internet memes is that almost no one seems to defend them. People tend to just pass them around, and more often than not, just delete them if pressed on the subject. A lot of atheists may feel the meme above is true, but they really can't back it up (which certainly throws water on the idea that atheism is a hotbed of intellectualism).
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This reminds me of the Meme against capitalism I saw the other day. A little cartoon where all the "workers" were happy under collective socialism, but when they worked under evil capitalism, they were miserable. (I'll look for it. It was pretty funny actually. And on twitter, where I saw it, a lot of people had commented on the obvious logic flaws.)
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Wag-a-Muffin (D), on 31 March 2016 - 09:13 AM, said:

This reminds me of the Meme against capitalism I saw the other day. A little cartoon where all the "workers" were happy under collective socialism, but when they worked under evil capitalism, they were miserable. (I'll look for it. It was pretty funny actually. And on twitter, where I saw it, a lot of people had commented on the obvious logic flaws.)


When you find it, send it to me. I'd like to use it in my Econ class.
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wisefool, on 29 March 2016 - 11:00 AM, said:

The thing about internet memes is that almost no one seems to defend them. People tend to just pass them around, and more often than not, just delete them if pressed on the subject.


I have noticed this too. I seem to get a steady stream of them from my facebook friends. Whenever I offer a rebuttal, I often hear nothing from them. A few times they just deleted the thing. I'd prefer they kept them up to show everyone how easily I found the holes in logic on the meme. I just don't bother anymore, it really would be a full time job dissecting every one of them.
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JesseR72, on 01 April 2016 - 06:23 PM, said:

wisefool, on 29 March 2016 - 11:00 AM, said:

The thing about internet memes is that almost no one seems to defend them. People tend to just pass them around, and more often than not, just delete them if pressed on the subject.
I have noticed this too. I seem to get a steady stream of them from my facebook friends. Whenever I offer a rebuttal, I often hear nothing from them. A few times they just deleted the thing. I'd prefer they kept them up to show everyone how easily I found the holes in logic on the meme. I just don't bother anymore, it really would be a full time job dissecting every one of them.


Send them to me.
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I can't find it. It was black and white. And in "workers under capitalism" the mean owner fired the black guy because he didn't like him. And in "workers co-op" they all owned the company and everyone was happy and paid well. (I'll keep looking, but I don't think I remember enough to find it by searching.)
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Wag-a-Muffin (D), on 02 April 2016 - 08:24 AM, said:

I can't find it. It was black and white. And in "workers under capitalism" the mean owner fired the black guy because he didn't like him. And in "workers co-op" they all owned the company and everyone was happy and paid well. (I'll keep looking, but I don't think I remember enough to find it by searching.)


I'm sure it'll pop up again like a bad penny.
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