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  Posted 25 June 2019 - 02:19 AM

Why The Dems Will Never Win Back Trump Voters

Their cartoonish image of the President’s base dooms them to failure.

The American Spectator
by David Catron
June 24, 2019, 12:03 AM

Excerpt:

It’s an article of faith among Democrats that the President’s base consists primarily of white working class voters without college degrees, and that they must be won back in order to beat Trump in 2020. This is why Elizabeth Warren inflicted that cringe-making, “I’m gonna get me a beer,” video on a long-suffering electorate. It is why Joe Biden, who reputedly enjoys a special rapport with blue collar voters, is the frontrunner for his party’s presidential nomination despite his penchant for gaffes and plagiarism. Thus, during this week’s Democratic debates, the candidates will devote considerable effort to courting the “deplorables.”

This will, however, be an exercise in futility because everything they believe about Trump’s base is false. Their view of this large and growing segment of the electorate is distorted by a myth concocted primarily by the media to explain away a deeply uncomfortable reality — that Trump possessed a better understanding of the public mood than did the professional political class. They were unable to abandon their preconceived notions about Trump and his supporters, despite easily accessible contrary data. The belief that his message was resonating only among the working class was debunked by Nate Silver as early as May of 2016:

It’s been extremely common for news accounts to portray Donald Trump’s candidacy as a “working-class” rebellion against Republican elites.… But the definition of “working class” and similar terms is fuzzy, and narratives like these risk obscuring an important and perhaps counterintuitive fact about Trump’s voters: As compared with most Americans, Trump’s voters are better off. The median household income of a Trump voter so far in the primaries is about $72,000.

That figure wasn’t merely above the national median household income, it was higher than the median income for Hillary Clinton’s supporters. Silver went on to point out that the general portrayal of Trump’s voters as uneducated also failed to conform to the facts: “About 44 percent of Trump supporters have college degrees… higher than the 33 percent of non-Hispanic white adults, or the 29 percent of American adults overall, who have at least a bachelor’s degree.” Blue collar workers were a real and valuable cohort of the President’s supporters, but the financial and educational make up of his base was more complex than most acknowledged.

Yet, even a guy as smart as National Review’s Kevin Williamson succumbed to the Never Trump delusion that Trump’s supporters were a bunch of white trash losers. In an essay published in the spring of 2016, he snarled, “Donald Trump’s speeches make them feel good. So does OxyContin.” Even after Trump won the Republican nomination, the legacy media, the Never Trumpers, and the Clinton campaign clung desperately to their belief that his supporters were a contemptible collection of irredeemable, uneducated homophobes, xenophobes, and racists. They were, as Clinton famously phrased it, “a basket of deplorables.”

Normally, even a candidate as politically inept as Hillary Clinton wouldn’t be dumb enough to publicly insult the customers, but the polls and the projections of all the experts indicated she was a sure winner. The most pessimistic estimate of her chances came from Nate Silver, who indicated that she had a 71 percent chance of winning. So, she had every reason to believe that she could get away with an honest declaration of the malice with which she regarded the voters who failed to support her. And, like the “expert” projections, all the polls suggested that she was right. Fortunately, they were wrong. Why? The Washington Examiner reports:

But there’s one factor when it comes to Trump that no poll will ever be able to register: the tendency of a substantial number of his supporters to lie. The American Psychological Association released a study in May of 1,000 American voters who said after the 2016 election that they voted for a different candidate than the one they had publicly said they would. Among the study’s participants, 27% secretly voted for Clinton, but an astounding 54% voted for Trump.

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 04:42 AM

Does anyone really know what the Left's long term goal for the country is?! I get how they don't want to give Trump a win, but filling the country with millions of illiterate Central Americans accomplishes what, lots of new Democratic voters so the Left never loses another election? What kind of country do they envision themselves ruling over? So yeah, Dems will never get a vote from me, I love my kids and grandkids too much...!
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Posted 25 June 2019 - 07:30 AM

View PostNH Populist, on 25 June 2019 - 04:42 AM, said:

Does anyone really know what the Left's long term goal for the country is?! I get how they don't want to give Trump a win, but filling the country with millions of illiterate Central Americans accomplishes what, lots of new Democratic voters so the Left never loses another election? What kind of country do they envision themselves ruling over? So yeah, Dems will never get a vote from me, I love my kids and grandkids too much...!

Venezuela
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Posted 25 June 2019 - 09:12 AM

View PostSeverian, on 25 June 2019 - 07:30 AM, said:

Venezuela

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 09:44 AM

Aside from spurious claims that there is no such thing as disapointed Trump voters and never-Trumpers who held their nose voting for him the first time around. Aside from all that, Trump recieved about as many votes as Romney did adjusting for population growth while Hillary's adjusted turnout was lower than Obama's. Also, third party candidates recieved a lot more votes than in 2012.

https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/960x0/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Frealspin%2Ffiles%2F2016%2F12%2Fthumbnail_Slide1-1200x674.jpg

With Democrats far more energized and less third party options Trump will need more than the vote rates he won with the fist time around.
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Posted 25 June 2019 - 10:26 AM

Conservative voters will never be stupid enough to switch to a democratic candidate. Under any circumstances.
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Posted 25 June 2019 - 10:35 AM

View PostAntonToo, on 25 June 2019 - 09:44 AM, said:

Aside from spurious claims that there is no such thing as disapointed Trump voters and never-Trumpers who held their nose voting for him the first time around. Aside from all that, Trump recieved about as many votes as Romney did adjusting for population growth while Hillary's adjusted turnout was lower than Obama's. Also, third party candidates recieved a lot more votes than in 2012.

https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/960x0/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Frealspin%2Ffiles%2F2016%2F12%2Fthumbnail_Slide1-1200x674.jpg

With Democrats far more energized and less third party options Trump will need more than the vote rates he won with the fist time around.


Still pushing the popular vote meme, the election of our President does not work that way you ginormous tool. Also, Hillary will never be President, Trump 2020 - Pence 2024
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Posted 25 June 2019 - 10:37 AM

View PostMTP Reggie, on 25 June 2019 - 10:26 AM, said:

Conservative voters will never be stupid enough to switch to a democratic candidate. Under any circumstances.


Well real conservative won’t, fake conservatives like Max Boot and Jennifer Rubin will to suck up to libs.
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Posted 25 June 2019 - 11:01 AM

Interesting take.

The left has become so unhinged, conservatives are afraid to "out" themselves in public settings.
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Posted 25 June 2019 - 11:15 AM

View PostAntonToo, on 25 June 2019 - 09:44 AM, said:

Aside from spurious claims that there is no such thing as disapointed Trump voters and never-Trumpers who held their nose voting for him the first time around. Aside from all that, Trump recieved about as many votes as Romney did adjusting for population growth while Hillary's adjusted turnout was lower than Obama's. Also, third party candidates recieved a lot more votes than in 2012.

https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/960x0/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Frealspin%2Ffiles%2F2016%2F12%2Fthumbnail_Slide1-1200x674.jpg

With Democrats far more energized and less third party options Trump will need more than the vote rates he won with the fist time around.


:yawn:

Tell us another whopper, leftist partisan hack.

View PostFirst Sarge, on 25 June 2019 - 10:35 AM, said:

Still pushing the popular vote meme, the election of our President does not work that way you ginormous tool. Also, Hillary will never be President, Trump 2020 - Pence 2024


:exactly:

View PostMTP Reggie, on 25 June 2019 - 10:26 AM, said:

Conservative voters will never be stupid enough to switch to a democratic candidate. Under any circumstances.


:exactly:
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Posted 25 June 2019 - 01:00 PM

This isn't about who Trump's voters are generally but what elements, particularly in the Midwest, switched their vote from Obama to Trump. The target isn't hardcore conservatives.
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Posted 25 June 2019 - 01:55 PM

View PostTimothy, on 25 June 2019 - 01:00 PM, said:

This isn't about who Trump's voters are generally but what elements, particularly in the Midwest, switched their vote from Obama to Trump. The target isn't hardcore conservatives.

This is fundamentally about the fact that you leftists don’t get why most people don’t agree with you on most things.
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Posted 25 June 2019 - 02:57 PM

View Postzurg, on 25 June 2019 - 01:55 PM, said:

This is fundamentally about the fact that you leftists don’t get why most people don’t agree with you on most things.


And about why the Left/Democrats/Progressives/Whatever still don't grasp why Trump won in the first place anyway. They still propound idiotic theories about "racism" and "sexism" and "homophobia" and so forth, still spout stupid crap about "white privilege" and "systemic police racism", still makes speeches about "free" college tuition and "free" healthcare and "free" pretty much everything else (all paid for by you, the taxpayer), still pretend being concerned about border security somehow boils down to "bigotry", etc etc etc........

And for some mind-boggling reason they seem to believe this type of horsesh*t and outright slander will somehow cause moderates to vote for Democrats???

The stupidity and dishonesty and corruption and hypocrisy on the political left is nothing short of astonishing.

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 03:24 PM

View PostMTP Reggie, on 25 June 2019 - 10:26 AM, said:

Conservative voters will never be stupid enough to switch to a democratic candidate. Under any circumstances.

Except for our few resident nevertrumpers.
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Posted 25 June 2019 - 03:26 PM

View PostAntonToo, on 25 June 2019 - 09:44 AM, said:

Aside from spurious claims that there is no such thing as disapointed Trump voters and never-Trumpers who held their nose voting for him the first time around. Aside from all that, Trump recieved about as many votes as Romney did adjusting for population growth while Hillary's adjusted turnout was lower than Obama's. Also, third party candidates recieved a lot more votes than in 2012.

https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/960x0/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Frealspin%2Ffiles%2F2016%2F12%2Fthumbnail_Slide1-1200x674.jpg

With Democrats far more energized and less third party options Trump will need more than the vote rates he won with the fist time around.

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You're nuttier than a squirrel turd!
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Posted 25 June 2019 - 03:27 PM

View Postzurg, on 25 June 2019 - 01:55 PM, said:

This is fundamentally about the fact that you leftists don’t get why most people don’t agree with you on most things.

BAM!
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Posted 25 June 2019 - 05:39 PM

View Postzurg, on 25 June 2019 - 01:55 PM, said:

This is fundamentally about the fact that you leftists don’t get why most people don’t agree with you on most things.


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Posted 25 June 2019 - 05:48 PM

View PostTimothy, on 25 June 2019 - 01:00 PM, said:

This isn't about who Trump's voters are generally but what elements, particularly in the Midwest, switched their vote from Obama to Trump. The target isn't hardcore conservatives.


You can try to dissect voters who switched from Obama to Trump, but it wasn't the man so much as it was his policies. If anything, those policies have evolved into something even more anti-American than Obama's. Socialism, infanticide, open borders, rescind everything Trump's done to bring the country back from the brink?! Bottom line, you people on the Left are incapable of understanding Trump voters, probably because it involves patriotism...
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Posted 25 June 2019 - 05:51 PM

View PostMontyPython, on 25 June 2019 - 02:57 PM, said:

And about why the Left/Democrats/Progressives/Whatever still don't grasp why Trump won in the first place anyway. They still propound idiotic theories about "racism" and "sexism" and "homophobia" and so forth, still spout stupid crap about "white privilege" and "systemic police racism", still makes speeches about "free" college tuition and "free" healthcare and "free" pretty much everything else (all paid for by you, the taxpayer), still pretend being concerned about border security somehow boils down to "bigotry", etc etc etc........

And for some mind-boggling reason they seem to believe this type of horsesh*t and outright slander will somehow cause moderates to vote for Democrats???

The stupidity and dishonesty and corruption and hypocrisy on the political left is nothing short of astonishing.

:wacko: :pinch: :blink:

Precisely.
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Posted 25 June 2019 - 08:23 PM

The whole "fourth trimester" abortion. AKA "infanticide". Anchor babies are citizens. They and their parents, siblings, and future invaders are fast-tracked to "free" education, healthcare, housing, clothing, and food. At the same time, babies born to American citizens on U.S. soil who "survive abortion" are "kept comfortable" until they can be sold as parts to Planned Parenthood. Not just a double standard of citizenship under the Constitution. Just f'ing Evil for all the world to see.
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