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#1 User is offline   MTP Reggie 

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Posted 21 October 2019 - 06:40 AM

The Liberation of Mitt Romney
The newly rebellious senator has become an outspoken dissident in Trump's Republican Party, just in time for the president's impeachment trial.
MCKAY COPPINS
Updated: Sunday, October 20, 2019, at 9:32 p.m. ET
The Atlantic

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Mitt romney is leaning forward in his chair, his eyes flashing, his voice sharp.

It's a strange look for the 72-year-old senator, who typically affects a measured, somber tone when discussing Donald Trump's various moral deficiencies. But after weeks of escalating combat with the president—over Ukraine, and China, and Syria, and impeachment—the gentleman from Utah suddenly appears ready to unload.

What set him off was my recitation of an argument I've heard some Republicans deploy lately to excuse Trump's behavior. Electing a president, the argument goes, is like hiring a plumber—you don't care about his character, you just want him to get the job done. Sitting in his Senate office, Romney is indignant. "Are you worried that your plumber overcharges you?" he asks. "Are you worried that the plumber's going to scream at your kids? Are you worried that the plumber is going to squeal out of your driveway?" I am playing devil's advocate; he is attempting an exorcism.

To Romney, Trump's performance as president is inextricably tangled up in his character. "Berating another person, or calling them names, or demeaning a class of people, not telling the truth—those are not private things," he says, adding: "If during the campaign you pay a porn star $130,000, that now comes into the public domain."

At this, Romney glances over at two of his aides who are watching silently from the other end of the room, and grins. "They're going, Oh gosh, shut up."

I've spent the past several months in an ongoing conversation with Romney as he's navigated a Washington that grows more hostile by the day. Before arriving in the Senate, Romney nurtured a pleasant delusion that he could somehow avoid being defined by his relationship with Trump. He had his own policy agenda to advance, his own vision for the future of the Republican Party. He would use his platform to take a stand against Trumpism, while largely ignoring Trump himself. When I would speak with his friends and allies in Utah during last year's campaign, there was often a certain dilettantish quality in the future Senator Romney they envisioned—a venerable elder statesman dabbling in legislation the way a retiree takes up tennis.

Instead, Romney has emerged as an outspoken dissident in Trump's Republican Party. In just the past few weeks, he has denounced the president's attempts to solicit dirt on political rivals from foreign governments as "wrong and appalling"; suggested that his fellow Republicans are looking the other way out of a desire for power; and condemned Trump's troop withdrawal in Syria as a "bloodstain on the annals of American history."

Trump has responded with a wrathful procession of personal attacks—deriding Romney as a "pompous ass," taunting him over his failed presidential bid in 2012, and tweeting a cartoonish video that tags the senator as a "Democrat secret asset."

These confrontations have turned Romney into one of the most closely watched figures in the impeachment battle now consuming Washington. While his fellow Republicans rail against "partisan witch hunts" and "fake whistle-blowers," Romney is taking the prospect of a Senate trial seriously—he's reviewing The Federalist Papers, brushing up on parliamentary procedure, and staying open to the idea that the president may need to be evicted from the Oval Office.

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Posted 21 October 2019 - 06:56 AM

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"They're going, Oh gosh, shut up."


FFS, STFU.
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 07:04 AM

Oh go to hell, Mittens.

Do something useful, like put your magic underwear over your head and STFU
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 08:22 AM

Mittens is of that ilk who think that being so nice that you won't even take your own side in an argument is the way to political success. We see how well a succession of RINOs who felt that decorum was more important than winning worked out for us.

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Posted 21 October 2019 - 08:29 AM

One term Senator, Mitt Romney, the headlines will one day read.
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 08:44 AM

If Romney thinks this is the way to get Republicans and Conservatives to vote for him, he is and will be sorely mistaken.
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 08:52 AM

If Mitt is what makes a republican then to paraphrase Reagan I didn't leave the GOP they left me
The GOP has left conservatism behind IMHO They have become the democrats of the 60s and the democrats are now just plain socialist/commies
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 09:12 AM

Same as it ever was.


This man was complaining about Trump before Trump was President, this is nothing new. What is new is his ability to vote against the President during the impeachment trial. He's trying to justify his hatred. The more important question for this supposed religious man is why should he cast that fist stone? Is it because of a personal issue or is it because the POTUS committed a crime other than anger the supposed religious hypocrite.

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Posted 21 October 2019 - 09:14 AM

View PostSeverian, on 21 October 2019 - 08:22 AM, said:

Mittens is of that ilk who think that being so nice that you won't even take your own side in an argument is the way to political success. We see how well a succession of RINOs who felt that decorum was more important than winning worked out for us.


He is the representative of the potted plant wing of the Republican party.
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 09:16 AM

View Postsatellite66, on 21 October 2019 - 08:52 AM, said:

If Mitt is what makes a republican then to paraphrase Reagan I didn't leave the GOP they left me
The GOP has left conservatism behind IMHO They have become the democrats of the 60s and the democrats are now just plain socialist/commies


News for you, the GOP has not in my lifetime been a conservative party. Reagan was the last really. Since then they have become a vocal minority party that claims to be the conservative party to gain 40% of the vote. They are the one trick pony. When they are in power what happens? Nothing, they roll nothing back. So socialism takes a rest and recuperation cycle until it starts gobbling up the rights of the individual again.
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 09:54 AM

If Romney had gone after Obamma with the same energy as he does attacking Trump, he would have been President in 2012. But the gutless puke plays it safe, like the coward that he is, and joins the wolf-pack attacking Trump, with impunity and cover gleefully provided by the despicable media.
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 11:09 AM

View PostMTP Reggie, on 21 October 2019 - 08:44 AM, said:

If Romney thinks this is the way to get Republicans and Conservatives to vote for him, he is and will be sorely mistaken.


And just as mistaken as he was in 2012.
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 11:12 AM

View PostJon Wayne, on 21 October 2019 - 09:54 AM, said:

If Romney had gone after Obamma with the same energy as he does attacking Trump, he would have been President in 2012. But the gutless puke plays it safe, like the coward that he is, and joins the wolf-pack attacking Trump, with impunity and cover gleefully provided by the despicable media.


:yeahthat:
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 11:14 AM

View PostJon Wayne, on 21 October 2019 - 09:54 AM, said:

If Romney had gone after Obamma with the same energy as he does attacking Trump, he would have been President in 2012. But the gutless puke plays it safe, like the coward that he is, and joins the wolf-pack attacking Trump, with impunity and cover gleefully provided by the despicable media.

What galls me is that he wouldn't have won his senatorial race if not for Trump.
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 11:16 AM

View PostTaggart Transcontinental, on 21 October 2019 - 09:16 AM, said:

News for you, the GOP has not in my lifetime been a conservative party. Reagan was the last really. Since then they have become a vocal minority party that claims to be the conservative party to gain 40% of the vote. They are the one trick pony. When they are in power what happens? Nothing, they roll nothing back. So socialism takes a rest and recuperation cycle until it starts gobbling up the rights of the individual again.

^This X 10!^

The establishment GOP has always been democrap light and for the deep state over we the people.

I never liked Romney the commie.
He can have a big cup of STFU.

Northeastern RINOs are among the worst.
They're all liberal proggies as much as any democrap.

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Posted 21 October 2019 - 11:16 AM

View PostTaggart Transcontinental, on 21 October 2019 - 09:12 AM, said:

Same as it ever was.


This man was complaining about Trump before Trump was President, this is nothing new. What is new is his ability to vote against the President during the impeachment trial. He's trying to justify his hatred. The more important question for this supposed religious man is why should he cast that fist stone? Is it because of a personal issue or is it because the POTUS committed a crime other than anger the supposed religious hypocrite.


Mittens is just like Kasick, another butthurt loser that tried to run for President and failed. And the fact Trump did the same and won, is the stick in their craw.
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 11:30 AM

https://www.breitbar...ampion-himself/

Ruh roh! :o
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 03:23 PM

Trump to Romney:



:yes:
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 08:35 PM

View PostRedSoloCup, on 21 October 2019 - 11:16 AM, said:

Mittens is just like Kasick, another butthurt loser that tried to run for President and failed. And the fact Trump did the same and won, is the stick in their craw.


That's it, but I think it also goes deeper than that. It's not 'just' that Trump won, it's that Trump won and he's not even a 'career' Republican.

Imagine spending a whole career working your way up the corporate ladder, kissing all the right asses, playing all the necessary office 'politics' until you're finally one step away from the top job. The job is 'yours', you've 'earned' it, and you're so close to it you can taste it... until the Board of Directors pulls the rug out from under you and votes to give that job to a complete outsider. Oh, man, would that burn. Right to the bone.

Human nature is what it is. A person in that position would first hate the person who 'stole' "their" job. Secondly they'd hate the people who voted that job away from them.

I think this describes Hillary to a Tee, and Romney to a lesser extent. I see the only REAL difference between Hillary and Romney being that Romney is better at masking his contempt for us deplorables.
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 08:40 PM

View PostRock N, on 21 October 2019 - 03:23 PM, said:

Trump to Romney:



:yes:


LOL :thumbsup:


Likewise, Trump versus the Democrats:


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