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#1 User is offline   Liz 

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 11:59 PM

Hubris

Gay Patriot
Posted by V the K
at 4:30 pm - May 16, 2017.

[Too short to excerpt]

Team Hillary was so out of touch, they couldn’t begin to fathom how out of touch they were.

Bill famously advised his wife’s campaign to do more to reach out to the (White Working Class), but in what will surely be recalled as one of the defining moments of hubris on Team Hillary, campaign manager Robby Mook replied, “the data run counter to your anecdotes.”

It’s just too perfect that Clinton lost the election in part because she relied on a gay, 36-year-old Ivy League data nerd rather than a two-time winner of a presidential election to show her the path to the White House.

Where the linked article gets it wrong, I think, is that it treats Democrats being out-of-touch with the White Working Class as an oversight. I think it was a deliberate political strategy. Hillary Clinton and the Democrat Party wrote off the concerns of the White Working Class and didn’t even bother to try to reach out to them; confident that the New Democrat Coalition of queers, browns, illegals, felons, and white urban elites virtually assured their supremacy. It was this precise coalition that elected Hillary the President of Los Angeles (the county that provided most of her popular vote margin).

But rather than admit to their miscalculation, Team Hillary decided to spin a fantastic conspiracy theory of Russian hacking, media bias, and FBI collusion that no intelligent person could possibly believe.

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 12:31 AM

View PostLiz, on 16 May 2017 - 11:59 PM, said:

Hubris

Gay Patriot
Posted by V the K
at 4:30 pm - May 16, 2017.

[Too short to excerpt]

Team Hillary was so out of touch, they couldn’t begin to fathom how out of touch they were.

Bill famously advised his wife’s campaign to do more to reach out to the (White Working Class), but in what will surely be recalled as one of the defining moments of hubris on Team Hillary, campaign manager Robby Mook replied, “the data run counter to your anecdotes.”

It’s just too perfect that Clinton lost the election in part because she relied on a gay, 36-year-old Ivy League data nerd rather than a two-time winner of a presidential election to show her the path to the White House.

Where the linked article gets it wrong, I think, is that it treats Democrats being out-of-touch with the White Working Class as an oversight. I think it was a deliberate political strategy. Hillary Clinton and the Democrat Party wrote off the concerns of the White Working Class and didn’t even bother to try to reach out to them; confident that the New Democrat Coalition of queers, browns, illegals, felons, and white urban elites virtually assured their supremacy. It was this precise coalition that elected Hillary the President of Los Angeles (the county that provided most of her popular vote margin).

But rather than admit to their miscalculation, Team Hillary decided to spin a fantastic conspiracy theory of Russian hacking, media bias, and FBI collusion that no intelligent person could possibly believe.

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But THEY believed it. That is what's important and the rest of us should keep hoping they continue to believe it. The idiots that continue to back Hillary will believe almost anything.


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 12:48 AM

View Postdeener, on 17 May 2017 - 12:31 AM, said:

But THEY believed it. That is what's important and the rest of us should keep hoping they continue to believe it. The idiots that continue to back Hillary will believe almost anything.


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Yes, it's often difficult and unpleasant to admit you're wrong but in the long run, it's generally the best course. We'll never have to worry about Hillary supporters selecting that option though.
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Posted 17 May 2017 - 12:49 AM

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But rather than admit to their miscalculation, Team Hillary decided to spin a fantastic conspiracy theory of Russian hacking, media bias, and FBI collusion that no intelligent person could possibly believe.


And every leftard and TrumpHater has fork and knife in hand to dig into the feast provided.
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Posted 17 May 2017 - 02:13 AM

View PostTicked@TinselTown, on 17 May 2017 - 12:49 AM, said:

And every leftard and TrumpHater has fork and knife in hand to dig into the feast provided.

And which occupies the breath of every major media outlet even 100+ days after Trump's inauguration.
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Posted 17 May 2017 - 08:33 AM

View Postdeener, on 17 May 2017 - 12:31 AM, said:

But THEY believed it. That is what's important and the rest of us should keep hoping they continue to believe it. The idiots that continue to back Hillary will believe almost anything.


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Lies work well, especially the big lie.

But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice.
All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.
It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.
— Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X[1]
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Posted 17 May 2017 - 12:28 PM

View PostTicked@TinselTown, on 17 May 2017 - 12:49 AM, said:

And every leftard and TrumpHater has fork and knife in hand to dig into the feast provided.


That isn't true. Some TrumpHaters are sick and tired of the constant drumbeat from the left/media without evidence to back up their shouting.
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Posted 17 May 2017 - 09:30 PM

Wow; where to begin?

Clinton (and Sanders) were very big on targeting "the 1%" (sometimes called "Wall Street Bankers") which is where much of "White Working Class" animosity was targeted, especially post-2008.

Irony Alert: Donald Trump was the first billionaire elected to the US Presidency (Forbes). He may be white but one can hardly call him "working class"; and there is scant evidence that he has the best interests of this aggrieved group in mind.

Double Secret Irony Alert: Hubris?! Are you effing kidding me?!!

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… But rather than admit to their miscalculation, Team Hillary decided to spin a fantastic conspiracy theory of Russian hacking, media bias, and FBI collusion that no intelligent person could possibly believe.

"GayPatriot" is certainly entitled to his opinions, no matter how silly they may be. "Russian hacking" is in no way a "fantastic conspiracy theory"; I think one must engage in fantastical thinking to believe that Russia is not doing anything like that. Donald Trump is infamous for making accusations of "media bias", going so far as to call MSM "fake news"; whereas actual "fake news" was so ubiquitous during the election cycle that Facebook and Google (among others) are taking steps to combat it. And one must have one's head pretty far up one's butt to think Comey's letter to Congress had no effect on the election.

That said, I have no doubt that "Team Hillary" has been engaged in a lot of soul-searching and post-election analysis. That they are largely not doing so in public fora does not validate this guy's blathering.

GayPatriot's missive seems long on polemics and short on rational thinking. His "queers, browns, illegals, felons, and white urban elites" is blatantly offensive and unnecessary; this adds no value to public discourse.

Look out GP! The sassy gay guy commentator genre is getting crowded!

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 01:42 AM

I just love hubris on pita warm pita bread! :cloud9:
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Posted 18 May 2017 - 05:45 AM

View PostMADGestic, on 17 May 2017 - 09:30 PM, said:

Wow; where to begin?

Clinton (and Sanders) were very big on targeting "the 1%" (sometimes called "Wall Street Bankers") which is where much of "White Working Class" animosity was targeted, especially post-2008.

Irony Alert: Donald Trump was the first billionaire elected to the US Presidency (Forbes). He may be white but one can hardly call him "working class"; and there is scant evidence that he has the best interests of this aggrieved group in mind.

Double Secret Irony Alert: Hubris?! Are you effing kidding me?!!


"GayPatriot" is certainly entitled to his opinions, no matter how silly they may be. "Russian hacking" is in no way a "fantastic conspiracy theory"; I think one must engage in fantastical thinking to believe that Russia is not doing anything like that. Donald Trump is infamous for making accusations of "media bias", going so far as to call MSM "fake news"; whereas actual "fake news" was so ubiquitous during the election cycle that Facebook and Google (among others) are taking steps to combat it. And one must have one's head pretty far up one's butt to think Comey's letter to Congress had no effect on the election.

That said, I have no doubt that "Team Hillary" has been engaged in a lot of soul-searching and post-election analysis. That they are largely not doing so in public fora does not validate this guy's blathering.

GayPatriot's missive seems long on polemics and short on rational thinking. His "queers, browns, illegals, felons, and white urban elites" is blatantly offensive and unnecessary; this adds no value to public discourse.

Look out GP! The sassy gay guy commentator genre is getting crowded!

:coolshades:

You're entitled to your opinion, no matter how silly it may be
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