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Posted 04 December 2017 - 01:19 PM

View Postoki, on 04 December 2017 - 01:13 PM, said:

You mean the one that was busted as being anti Trump?

Oki



Yes. Also they went after Flynn's son and made him a hostage. Also the Pappadopolous guy was a non-factor but Mueller re-created him as a player. The entire case against the President is phony. Democrats and bureaucrats are by definition crooks.
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 01:21 PM

View Postzurg, on 04 December 2017 - 01:09 PM, said:

I meant an end, with concrete consequences for Trump, not just the liberal media doing its useless whining and fake news.


Have you forgotten that there are four more sealed indictments included with Manafort & Gates? Or that theirs is "indictment B," meaning there is another (more important) indictment waiting to be unsealed?

With Flynn's case being heard in another jurisdiction, who do you think would be more important than Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort?
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 01:22 PM

View PostThat_Guy, on 04 December 2017 - 01:21 PM, said:

Have you forgotten that there are four more sealed indictments included with Manafort & Gates? Or that theirs is "indictment B," meaning there is another (more important) indictment waiting to be unsealed?

With Flynn's case being heard in another jurisdiction, who do you think would be more important than Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort?

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 01:23 PM

View PostThat_Guy, on 04 December 2017 - 11:14 AM, said:

Mueller wouldn't charge something so minor if Flynn wasn't proffering something major.

Brian Ross told you so.
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 01:24 PM

View PostCoach, on 04 December 2017 - 01:19 PM, said:

The entire case against the President is phony.


Unless, of course, his campaign agreed to accept Russian help (in the form of the release of stolen/damaging information about his opponent) in exchange for some deliverable like lifting sanctions.
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 01:29 PM

View PostThat_Guy, on 04 December 2017 - 11:14 AM, said:

Mueller wouldn't charge something so minor if Flynn wasn't proffering something major.

Is that what you said when Scooter Libby was charged with the same thing?

Keep grasping at straws, comrade.



***ETA -I thought that drivel had come from the Antons, but alas, it came from someone I consider a total buffoon. No wonder I felt like adding :biglaugh:

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 01:42 PM

View PostThat_Guy, on 04 December 2017 - 01:24 PM, said:

Unless, of course, his campaign agreed to accept Russian help (in the form of the release of stolen/damaging information about his opponent) in exchange for some deliverable like lifting sanctions.

You mean like the information Hillary's campaign paid for and is coming back to bite them in the arse? That kind of information?
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 01:46 PM

View PostThat_Guy, on 04 December 2017 - 11:45 AM, said:

In this context, do you know what a proffer is?

Do you know what an opinion is? Most try to back up opinions. Why are you so special that you donít?
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 01:50 PM

View PostThat_Guy, on 04 December 2017 - 01:24 PM, said:

Unless, of course, his campaign agreed to accept Russian help (in the form of the release of stolen/damaging information about his opponent) in exchange for some deliverable like lifting sanctions.

Whoop! There it is!! The ASSumption!!!

You go boi!!!
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 01:59 PM

View PostThat_Guy, on 04 December 2017 - 12:08 PM, said:

Based on what he saw, heard, and learned in the twelve months he spent at Trump's side between February of 2016 and February of 2017.


Because you were there and you know what transpired? Keep digging that hole cochise.

View PostThat_Guy, on 04 December 2017 - 12:41 PM, said:

That assumes Robert Mueller's office would leak.

Clearly, it doesn't.


Did Hillary Clinton lie to an investigator? Why isn't she charged for it?
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 02:01 PM

View PostThat_Guy, on 04 December 2017 - 01:06 PM, said:

There is an end in sight.


Yeahhhh

That light?

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 02:02 PM

View Posterp, on 04 December 2017 - 01:46 PM, said:

Do you know what an opinion is? Most try to back up opinions. Why are you so special that you don’t?


Mueller has Flynn (and Flynn Jr.) dead-to-rights on multiple counts; but rather than charge any of them, Mueller is allowing Flynn Sr. to plead to a single charge which comes with a sentence of 0-6 months in prison -- and no defendant gets a deal like that without first proffering enough evidence to convict someone the prosecution deems to be more of a priority.

Interestingly enough, there is a sealed Indictment "A" preceding the Manafort/Gates Indictment "B" (and it can't be Flynn).

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 02:03 PM

View PostThat_Guy, on 04 December 2017 - 01:21 PM, said:

Have you forgotten that there are four more sealed indictments included with Manafort & Gates? Or that theirs is "indictment B," meaning there is another (more important) indictment waiting to be unsealed?

With Flynn's case being heard in another jurisdiction, who do you think would be more important than Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort?


Ohhh WOW!!!! It's like Christmas for you or sorry Happy Holiday Season for you!!! Hold your breath, Maybe we can get a early christmas present.
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 02:22 PM

View PostThat_Guy, on 04 December 2017 - 02:02 PM, said:

Mueller has Flynn (and Flynn Jr.) dead-to-rights on multiple counts; but rather than charge any of them, Mueller is allowing Flynn Sr. to plead to a single charge which comes with a sentence of 0-6 months in prison -- and no defendant gets a deal like that without first proffering enough evidence to convict someone the prosecution deems to be more of a priority.

Interestingly enough, there is a sealed Indictment "A" preceding the Manafort/Gates Indictment "B" (and it can't be Flynn).

Alan Dershowitz disagrees with you :biglaugh:
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 02:37 PM

View PostThePatriot, on 04 December 2017 - 02:22 PM, said:



Prof. Dershowitz makes the mistake of assuming Flynn lied about something "he could have told truth about" (when there is no way to know that).

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 02:51 PM

View PostThat_Guy, on 04 December 2017 - 02:37 PM, said:

Prof. Dershowitz makes the mistake of assuming Flynn lied about something "he could have told truth about" (when there is no way to know that).

You make the mistake of assuming "no defendant gets a deal like that without first proffering enough evidence to convict someone the prosecution deems to be more of a priority" (when there is no way to know that). :biglaugh:
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 03:00 PM

View PostCoach, on 04 December 2017 - 01:19 PM, said:

Yes. Also they went after Flynn's son and made him a hostage. Also the Pappadopolous guy was a non-factor but Mueller re-created him as a player. The entire case against the President is phony. Democrats and bureaucrats are by definition crooks.



You mean to tell me that the Feds aren't some of the dirtiest players in the game? That time and again they have used tactics that would have landed anyone else in jail?

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 03:10 PM

View PostThat_Guy, on 04 December 2017 - 02:37 PM, said:

Prof. Dershowitz makes the mistake of assuming Flynn lied about something "he could have told truth about" (when there is no way to know that).

There is a way to know that. Was what Flynn did illegal? No? Then he could have told the truth about it.

Hey, remember when you were hoping to see Karl Rove frog-marched out of the White House? Good times.

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Posted 04 December 2017 - 03:20 PM

View PostThePatriot, on 04 December 2017 - 02:51 PM, said:

You make the mistake of assuming "no defendant gets a deal like that without first proffering enough evidence to convict someone the prosecution deems to be more of a priority" (when there is no way to know that).


Actually, there is a way to know that: Interview prosecutors.
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Posted 04 December 2017 - 03:34 PM

View PostAntonToo, on 04 December 2017 - 09:32 AM, said:

A bigger question now is WHY IS TRUMP STILL LYING BIG LEAGUE ABOUT FLYNN?

He tweets this:

https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/msnbc/components/video/201712/nn_pwi_russia_investigation_flynn_171202_1920x1080.nbcnews-ux-1080-600.jpg

So now he looks like a total idiot/obstructionist for saying he knew of lying to FBI when he went to Comey very next day after firing Flynn to ask him to drop Flynn's case. After firing Comey, Trump even openly mused that it was a mistake to fire Flynn.

Whats a liar to do? Lie some more of course:

President Donald Trump's personal lawyer took responsibility Sunday for a tweet that Trump sent the previous day, in which the president said for the first time that he knew his former security adviser, Michael Flynn, had lied to the FBI before he fired Flynn in February.

https://www.nbcnews....c-tweet-n826036



Will the REALrealDonalTrump please stand up! :rolleyes:

:bs:

View PostDutch13, on 04 December 2017 - 10:25 AM, said:

You have to admit, the President is either a Twitter genius at baiting them in..........or a dolt whose twitter feed will be his downfall.

He's a genius.

Next?

View PostThat_Guy, on 04 December 2017 - 11:14 AM, said:

Mueller wouldn't charge something so minor if Flynn wasn't proffering something major.

Says who?

You?

History proves different.
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