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  Posted 08 November 2018 - 05:49 PM

She Illegally Destroyed Ballots In 2016. Now The Florida GOP Worries She's Trying To Steal A Senate Seat

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by Philip Wegmann
November 08, 2018 04:40 PM

[Too short to excerpt]

Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., is angry. He has reason to be.

Counties must report early voting and mail ballot voting within 30 minutes of polls closing, according to Florida state law, Rubio complained on Twitter Thursday. But Broward County has not reported those votes or the number of votes left to be counted, more than 40 hours after the polling station closed on Election Day.

Republicans should be worried, and it isn’t just because Broward County is a Democratic stronghold that could tip the results of the still-contested races for Senate and even perhaps governor. It is because Broward County has a history of destroying ballots and skewing races.

Democratic Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz was staving off a primary challenge Tim Canova when his campaign noticed certain irregularities in the way paper ballots were being counted. An ugly court battle and two years later, a judge ruled that the Broward elections supervisor had illegally destroyed ballots in the race.

The supervisor’s name? Brenda Snipes, who claimed that the trashing of the ballots was just a “mistake.” The current supervisor’s name? Still Snipes, who won’t say how long it will take to finish counting leftover ballots or how many there are. Unlike two years ago, the races in question for Senate and governor are both extremely competitive.

Republicans Rick Scott, the Senate candidate, and Rep. Ron DeSantis, the gubernatorial candidate, are both leading by less than half-a-percent.

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 05:55 PM

Time to call in the troops and confiscate the ballots to secure them for processing.
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 06:38 PM

It boggles my mind how much these people get away with and get to stay in their jobs.
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 06:48 PM

Come down HARD. Smack the other side into next Tuesday. As a former bar-fighter, DAMN, but sometimes you hafta go there.
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 07:21 PM

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Posted 08 November 2018 - 08:38 PM

For a party that is always so concerned if the republican will accept the results
Democrats always have an issue accepting when they lose.
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Posted 08 November 2018 - 09:31 PM

https://www.abc15.co...-martha-mcsally

Funny how the Dems always find more ballots somewhere - and it only helps them win.
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Posted 09 November 2018 - 12:30 AM

If someone, anyone, is proven dishonest at a polling place they work or volunteer at, they should never be allowed to step foot back into any polling facility. I'm wondering why this woman wasn't arrested and charged?
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Posted 09 November 2018 - 12:46 AM

View PostJunto, on 08 November 2018 - 09:31 PM, said:

https://www.abc15.co...-martha-mcsally

Funny how the Dems always find more ballots somewhere - and it only helps them win.


Yup. It just might be more believable if at least occasionally the "found" ballots turned out to be majority Republican votes. But they never are, are they...?

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 01:07 AM

View PostJunto, on 08 November 2018 - 09:31 PM, said:

https://www.abc15.co...-martha-mcsally

Funny how the Dems always find more ballots somewhere - and it only helps them win.


By the way, it's IMPOSSIBLE to "find" more ballots. I work election turn-ins. The total number of ballots is accounted for completely. We know how many were used how many were not used and how many were voided. There is a polling place accountability sheet that every person running a polling place has to do to audit the process. There is an auditor that comes in and checks this process. We initially get the digital computer cards, followed by a printout and then the actual manual ballots. Those are all validated and the process is complete.

Finding ballots after the fact means no one is following their laws. PERIOD.

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 01:09 AM

View PostMontyPython, on 09 November 2018 - 12:46 AM, said:

Yup. It just might be more believable if at least occasionally the "found" ballots turned out to be majority Republican votes. But they never are, are they...?

:rolleyes:


Notice they never "find" any extra votes in the panhandle of florida. Wonder why that is? Oh that's because those people are complying with the law. You literally have to move every one out of broward and that other county and put in other people randomly selected from around the state to get an honest result.
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Posted 09 November 2018 - 01:13 AM

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GOP Senate candidate Rick Scott files bombshell lawsuits accusing Dem Florida election officials of trying to 'steal the election'

By Gregg Re | Fox News

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Republican Senate candidate Rick Scott sues South Florida election officials over delays in completing vote count of the midterm election.

Accusing Democrats of conducting a coordinated effort to "steal" elections in a campaign of possibly "rampant fraud," Republican Senate candidate Rick Scott filed explosive lawsuits late Thursday against the top election officials in two heavily Democratic counties, as they continue to report new votes and three major races in the state appear headed for recounts.

In their lawsuit against Broward County, Scott and the National Republican Senatorial Committeee (NRSC) allege that officials there are hiding critical information about the number of votes cast and counted. And in a parallel suit against Palm Beach County, Scott and the NRSC charge that the election supervisor there illegally used her own judgment to determine voter intent when reviewing damaged absentee ballots, while refusing to allow witnesses to monitor the process.

"I will not stand idly by while unethical liberals try to steal an election," Scott, who is currently Florida's governor, said at a press conference outside the Governor's Mansion, as he slammed potential "rampant fraud" in the race.

Scott is running against longtime incumbent Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson. On Thursday, a Nelson spokesperson tersely dismissed Scott's effort: “The goal here is to see that all the votes in Florida are counted and counted accurately. Rick Scott’s action appears to be politically motivated and borne out of desperation.”

The bombshell litigation comes hours after Florida GOP Sen. Marco Rubio, in an extraordinary series of tweets that alleged incompetence if not outright complicity by Florida officials, charged that Democratic lawyers were "descending on" the state in a calculated attempt to "change the results" and "try and steal" several statewide races.

Also late Thursday, President Trump threw another wrench into the evening, announcing on Twitter that "Law Enforcement is looking into another big corruption scandal having to do with Election Fraud in #Broward and Palm Beach." He did not elaborate.

"Late Tuesday night, our win was projected to be around 57,000 votes," Scott told reporters. "By Wednesday morning, that lead dropped to 38,000. By Wednesday evening, it was around 30,000. This morning, it was around 21,000. Now, it is 15,000."

He continued: "On election night, Broward County said there were 634,000 votes cast. At 1 a.m. today, there were 695,700 ballots cast on election day. At 2:30 p.m. today, the number was up to 707,223 ballots cast on Election Day. And we just learned, that the number has increased to 712,840 ballots cast on Election Day. In Palm Beach County, there are 15,000 new votes found since election night.

"So, it has been over 48 hours since the polls closed and Broward and Palm Beach Counties are still finding and counting ballots – and the Supervisors – Brenda Snipes and Susan Bucher – cannot seem to say how many ballots still exist or where these ballots came from, or where they have been," Scott said.

A mandatory recount now appears imminent not only in Scott's race, but also in the agricultural commissioner contest and Florida's high-profile gubernatorial brawl between Democrat Andrew Gillum and Republican Ron DeSantis, based on new vote totals -- even though Gillum has already conceded. Florida law requires a machine recount when candidates are within 0.50 percentage points of each other.

"I will not stand idly by while unethical liberals try to steal an election."
— GOP Florida Senate candidate Rick Scott


Speaking to Fox News' "Hannity" Thursday night, Scott said, "We don't know how many votes they're gonna come up with. But it seems they're going to try to come up with as many votes as it takes to win this election. ... We're gonna fight this, and we're gonna win."

Earlier in the evening, he was just as direct: "No ragtag group of liberal activists or lawyers from D.C. will be allowed to steal this election from the voters in the state of Florida," he said outside his residence.

Scott's first emergency complaint accuses Broward County Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes of being "unwilling to disclose records revealing how many electors voted, how many ballots have been canvassed, and how many ballots remain to be canvassed," and charges that the uncertainty "raises substantial concerns about the validity of the election process."

The NRSC specifically allege that Snipes is in violation of the Florida Constitution and the Florida Public Records Act. They demand an emergency hearing, as well as a court order requiring Snipes to turn over information about ballots in Broward County.

Scott's complaint against Palm Beach County Supervisor of Elections Susan Bucher, meanwhile, alleges that officials there illegally refused to allow Republicans, or any witnesses, to monitor the county's handling of damaged absentee ballots.

"Even more alarmingly," Scott further claims, Bucher "failed to allow the Palm Beach County Canvassing Board" to determine, as required by law, which damaged absentee ballots are valid and what the intent of the voter was in casting them. Instead, Scott and the NRSC argue, Bucher simply subsituted her own judgment for voters' intent.

The suit against Bucher demands an injunction requiring Bucher to make and compare duplicate copies of the damaged absentee ballots in the presence of Scott's representatives, and to allow the Palm Beach County Canvassing Board to determine voters' intent.

Rubio, in his barrage of broadsides against Snipes earlier in the day, pointed to the "slow drip" of tens of thousands of additional ballots that were reported throughout the day Thursday, most of which were favorable to several Democratic candidates. Rubio said those late disclosures violated Florida election law, which necessitates that mail-in and early voting ballots be counted within 30 minutes of polls closing.

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So the dems keep "finding" votes after the legally required time... and are making judgement calls on ballots unsupervised, which is also illegal.

So 65 Florida counties managed to follow the law and get their results in and counted... while the same two notorious counties are pulling their shenanigans again. Yeah... nothing to see here. :rolleyes:
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Posted 09 November 2018 - 01:32 AM

FL SEN: Something Very Odd (And In Violation Of State Law) Is Going On In These Two Democratic Counties

Townhall.com
Matt Vespa
Nov 08, 2018 3:20 PM

UPDATE: GOP chair draws red line:

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Something odd is occurring in Florida’s Senate race. Republican Gov. Rick Scott has declared victory over incumbent Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson. At the time, Scott led Nelson by a little over 34,500 votes. It’s now been cut to around 18,000. We’re heading into recount territory, as Scott’s lead has dwindled to 0.2 percent; less than half of one percent triggers an automatic recount. Yet, in two Democratic bastions—Palm Beach and Broward counties—they’re taking their sweet time counting the votes and not telling how many are left outstanding. A category four hurricane recently hit the state and yet every county, including the ones slammed by Michael, have all counted their votes. In Broward, the supervisor there isn’t keeping regular reports on the ballots that need to be counted. She also appears not to know and has been dumping thousands at a time in the late night hours.

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 06:50 AM

View PostJunto, on 08 November 2018 - 09:31 PM, said:

https://www.abc15.co...-martha-mcsally

Funny how the Dems always find more ballots somewhere - and it only helps them win.



If ballots are still left to be counted, I don't see why anyone should concede if the election is very close.

Count every ballot.

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Posted 09 November 2018 - 08:00 AM

View PostLadybird, on 09 November 2018 - 06:50 AM, said:

If ballots are still left to be counted, I don't see why anyone should concede if the election is very close.

Count every ballot.


Once a candidate concedes, the election is final. Neither the candidate nor anyone else can contest that decision.
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Posted 09 November 2018 - 08:08 AM

View PostLadybird, on 09 November 2018 - 06:50 AM, said:

If ballots are still left to be counted, I don't see why anyone should concede if the election is very close.

Count every ballot.



They will count every vote as soon as they stop divining what voters really meant on their ballots and when they are positive there are no more ballots in car trunks. https://www.dailywir...s-ryan-saavedra
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Posted 09 November 2018 - 08:13 AM

View PostTaggart Transcontinental, on 09 November 2018 - 01:07 AM, said:

By the way, it's IMPOSSIBLE to "find" more ballots. I work election turn-ins. The total number of ballots is accounted for completely. We know how many were used how many were not used and how many were voided. There is a polling place accountability sheet that every person running a polling place has to do to audit the process. There is an auditor that comes in and checks this process. We initially get the digital computer cards, followed by a printout and then the actual manual ballots. Those are all validated and the process is complete.

Finding ballots after the fact means no one is following their laws. PERIOD.



A teacher just found a box of ballots in a the storage closet in her school where the vote took place.....
https://nypost.com/2...n-storage-area/
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Posted 09 November 2018 - 08:21 AM

View Postbearded old man, on 09 November 2018 - 08:13 AM, said:

A teacher just found a box of ballots in a the storage closet in her school where the vote took place.....
https://nypost.com/2...n-storage-area/


Pure :bs:
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Posted 09 November 2018 - 08:34 AM

View Postgravelrash, on 08 November 2018 - 06:38 PM, said:

It boggles my mind how much these people get away with and get to stay in their jobs.


... AND don't go to jail... AND aren't tarred and feathered in the street.

This kind of shenanigans pi$$es me off to no end.
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Posted 09 November 2018 - 08:35 AM

View Postgravelrash, on 09 November 2018 - 08:00 AM, said:

Once a candidate concedes, the election is final. Neither the candidate nor anyone else can contest that decision.

The post I responded to was about the Arizona race. There are still votes to be counted and no one has conceded.

(I don’t think Nelson has conceded either)
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