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#1 User is offline   MTP Reggie 

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 07:52 AM

Despite Big House Losses, G.O.P. Shows No Signs of Course Correction
Representative Kevin McCarthy, third from right, was elected minority leader with little debate. Republicans have not confronted why their once-loyal base of suburban supporters abandoned the party this year.
By Jonathan Martin
Dec. 2, 2018
NY Times

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WASHINGTON — With a brutal finality, the extent of the Republicans' collapse in the House came into focus last week as more races slipped away from them and their losses neared 40 seats. Yet nearly a month after the election, there has been little self-examination among Republicans about why a midterm that had seemed at least competitive became a rout.

President Trump has brushed aside questions about the loss of the chamber entirely, ridiculing losing incumbents by name, while continuing to demand Congress fund a border wall despite his party losing many of their most diverse districts. Unlike their Democratic counterparts, Republicans swiftly elevated their existing slate of leaders with little debate, signaling a continuation of their existing political strategy. And neither Speaker Paul D. Ryan nor Representative Kevin McCarthy, the incoming minority leader, have stepped forward to confront why the party's once-loyal base of suburban supporters abandoned it — and what can be done to win them back.

The quandary, some Republicans acknowledge, is that the party's leaders are constrained from fully grappling with the damage Mr. Trump inflicted with those voters, because he remains popular with the party's core supporters and with the conservatives who will dominate the caucus even more in the next Congress. But now a cadre of Republican lawmakers are speaking out and urging party officials to come to terms with why their 23-seat majority unraveled so spectacularly and Democrats gained the most seats they had since 1974.

"There has been close to no introspection in the G.O.P. conference and really no coming to grips with the shifting demographics that get to why we lost those seats," said Representative Elise Stefanik, an upstate New York Republican who is planning to repurpose her political action committee to help Republican women win primaries in 2020. "I'm very frustrated and I know other members are frustrated." Ms. Stefanik said there had been "robust private conversations" but she urged Republicans to conduct a formal assessment of their midterm effort.

The Republican response, or lack thereof, to the midterm backlash stands in stark contrast to the shake-ups and soul-searching that followed its loss of Congress in 2006 and consecutive presidential defeats in 2012. House officials indicate that they will pursue an after-action report, but it is unclear how far it will go in diagnosing why they lost the popular vote by more raw votes than any time in history.

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 10:13 AM

View PostMTP Reggie, on 03 December 2018 - 07:52 AM, said:

House officials indicate that they will pursue an after-action report, but it is unclear how far it will go in diagnosing why they lost the popular vote by more raw votes than any time in history.


Again they still going with the popular vote meme, that means nothing in Congressional races. It really helps them push this along with the California jungle primary system with just democrats to vote for in most races.
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Posted 03 December 2018 - 12:20 PM

 First Sarge, on 03 December 2018 - 10:13 AM, said:

Again they still going with the popular vote meme, that means nothing in Congressional races. It really helps them push this along with the California jungle primary system with just democrats to vote for in most races.


It's the New York Slimes. Typical infantile behavior of this rag.
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Posted 03 December 2018 - 01:18 PM

Any article from the NYTs that pretends to analyze and suggest why the GOP either wins or loses, it is an absolute guarantee that the exact opposite of what they are saying is the truth. Thus, this article isn't completely worthless as it provides the blueprint on how to succeed in the future.

Despite 92% negative coverage of President Trump and relentless stories of idiots resisting (only lunatics would be "resisting" continual good news on practically every front), President Trump's 2018 campaigning was highly effective (but not complete) where he held his rallies. My prediction is President Trump will continue to hold rallies throughout this year and really ramp it up in 2020 to bypass the lefty media to get the word out to the voting public of the unbelievably great number of things he has accomplished and what he will continue to accomplish after getting reelected. The great thing about President Trump is that he is actually that good where he can very effectively run a nation and campaign non-stop at the same time.
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Posted 03 December 2018 - 01:57 PM

 usapatriot, on 03 December 2018 - 01:18 PM, said:

Any article from the NYTs that pretends to analyze and suggest why the GOP either wins or loses, it is an absolute guarantee that the exact opposite of what they are saying is the truth. Thus, this article isn't completely worthless as it provides the blueprint on how to succeed in the future.

Despite 92% negative coverage of President Trump and relentless stories of idiots resisting (only lunatics would be "resisting" continual good news on practically every front), President Trump's 2018 campaigning was highly effective (but not complete) where he held his rallies. My prediction is President Trump will continue to hold rallies throughout this year and really ramp it up in 2020 to bypass the lefty media to get the word out to the voting public of the unbelievably great number of things he has accomplished and what he will continue to accomplish after getting reelected. The great thing about President Trump is that he is actually that good where he can very effectively run a nation and campaign non-stop at the same time.

Well said. This is exactly it.
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Posted 03 December 2018 - 05:49 PM

Curiously, it's the Dems who have lost literally thousands of elected offices over the last 10 years, at all levels of government, and with the turn of the House, which was not entirely unexpected considering the large number of retirements (hence, no incumbent), suddenly it's the end of the line for Republicans.

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 06:40 PM

View PostFirst Sarge, on 03 December 2018 - 10:13 AM, said:

Again they still going with the popular vote meme, that means nothing in Congressional races. It really helps them push this along with the California jungle primary system with just democrats to vote for in most races.


There is no such thing as the popular vote in national elections. They keep harping on this because they are elitists who think those who live in rural areas are illiterate hicks who should be ignored. The important people agree with the left and that's why they should be in charge of everybody.

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Posted 04 December 2018 - 02:13 AM

Rampant voter fraud and tampering with the ballots after the polls close by Democrats are not things that the Republicans are unfamiliar with, so why would they have to waste more time on something that won't ever change?
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Posted 04 December 2018 - 05:33 AM

The party in power typically loses in both the House and the Senate at midterms. There have been reports and articles showing how the GOP actually fared comparatively well in the House compared to other midterms and they picked up seats in the Senate.

What should they change?
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Posted 04 December 2018 - 07:51 AM

View PostJerryL, on 04 December 2018 - 05:33 AM, said:

The party in power typically loses in both the House and the Senate at midterms. There have been reports and articles showing how the GOP actually fared comparatively well in the House compared to other midterms and they picked up seats in the Senate.

What should they change?


Apparently they should compromise more... <_<
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Posted 04 December 2018 - 09:16 AM

 MTP Reggie, on 04 December 2018 - 07:51 AM, said:

Apparently they should compromise more... <_<

“Assume the position!”
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 07:03 AM

View PostMTP Reggie, on 04 December 2018 - 07:51 AM, said:

Apparently they should compromise more... <_<

Apparently the leftists can pound sand...
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Posted 06 December 2018 - 08:57 AM

It wasn't "big house losses". The losses were less than what the dems had in the last few mid-terms. So, actually, it wasn't near as bad as it could have been.
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