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Posted 17 February 2019 - 01:07 PM

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Amidst Global Warming Hysteria, NASA Expects Global Cooling

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Mike Shedlock
Jan 30, 2019 1:03 PM

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Those promoting CO2 as the reason for global warming are hucksters and those taken in by hucksters.

Please consider NASA Sees Climate Cooling Trend Thanks to Low Sun Activity.

“We see a cooling trend,” said Martin Mlynczak of NASA’s Langley Research Center. “High above Earth’s surface, near the edge of space, our atmosphere is losing heat energy. If current trends continue, it could soon set a Space Age record for cold.”

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The new data is coming from NASA’s Sounding of the Atmosphere using Broadband Emission Radiometry or SABER instrument, which is onboard the space agency’s Thermosphere Ionosphere Mesosphere Energetics and Dynamics (TIMED) satellite. SABER monitors infrared radiation from carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitric oxide (NO), two substances that play a vital role in the energy output of our thermosphere, the very top level of our atmosphere.

“The thermosphere always cools off during Solar Minimum. It’s one of the most important ways the solar cycle affects our planet,” said Mlynczak, who is the associate principal investigator for SABER.

The new NASA findings are in line with studies released by UC-San Diego and Northumbria University in Great Britain last year, both of which predict a Grand Solar Minimum in coming decades due to low sunspot activity. Both studies predicted sun activity similar to the Maunder Minimum of the mid-17th to early 18th centuries, which coincided to a time known as the Little Ice Age, during which temperatures were much lower than those of today.

If all of this seems as if NASA is contradicting itself, you’re right — sort of. After all, NASA also reported last week that Arctic sea ice was at its sixth lowest level since measuring began. Isn’t that a sure sign of global warming?

All any of this “proves” is that we have, at best, a cursory understanding of Earth’s incredibly complex climate system. So when mainstream media and carbon-credit salesman Al Gore breathlessly warn you that we must do something about climate change, it’s all right to step back, take a deep breath, and realize that we don’t have the knowledge, skill or resources to have much effect on the Earth’s climate.


Incredibly Complex Systems

See the problem? Alarmists take one variable, CO2 that is only a tiny part of extremely long cycles and make projections far into to the future based off it.

When I was in grade school, the alarmists were worried about global cooling. Amusingly, I recall discussing in science class the need to put soot on the arctic ice to melt it to stop the advance of glaciers.

The latest Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) Report said we have only 12 years left to save the planet. It triggered the usual frantic and ridiculous reactions.

NBC News offered this gem: “A last-ditch global warming fix? A man-made ‘volcanic’ eruption” to cool the planet.” Its article proclaimed, “Scientists and some environmentalists believe nations might have to mimic volcanic gases as a last-ditch effort to protect Earth from extreme warming.”


Geo-engineering: Ignoring the Consequences

Watts Up With That discusses Geo-Engineering: Ignoring the Consequences.

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From 1940 to almost 1980, the average global temperature went down. Political concerns and the alleged scientific consensus focused on global cooling. Alarmists said it could be the end of agriculture and civilization. Journalist Lowell Ponte wrote in his 1976 book, The Cooling.

The problem then was – and still is now – that people are educated in the false philosophy of uniformitarianism: the misguided belief that conditions always were and always will be as they are now, and any natural changes will occur over long periods of time.

Consequently, most people did not understand that the cooling was part of the natural cycle of climate variability, or that changes are often huge and sudden. Just 18,000 years ago we were at the peak of an Ice Age. Then, most of the ice melted and sea levels rose 150 meters (490 feet), because it was warmer for almost all of the last 10,000 years than it is today.

During the cooling “danger,” geo-engineering proposals included:

* building a dam across the Bering Straits to block cold Arctic water, to warm the North Pacific and the middle latitudes of the Northern Hemisphere;

* dumping black soot on the Arctic ice cap to promote melting;

* adding carbon dioxide (CO2) to the atmosphere to raise global temperatures.

“Taking carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere,” as advocated by the IPCC in its October 8 news conference, is also foolish. Historic records show that, at about 410 parts per million (ppm), the level of CO2 supposedly in the atmosphere now, we are near the lowest in the last 280 million years. As plants evolved over that time, the average level was 1200 ppm. That is why commercial greenhouses boost CO2 to that level to increase plant growth and yields by a factor of four.


The IPCC has been wrong in every prediction it’s made since 1990. It would be a grave error to use its latest forecasts as the excuse to engage in geo-engineering experiments with the only planet we have.


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 01:14 PM

Hey, no worries man. That’s why we call it climate change now.


It’s all good...
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Posted 17 February 2019 - 04:08 PM

If things start cooling, you'll see it first in agricultural yields at higher latitudes, not in the overly politically adjusted surface temperature datasets. You can fool with the data, the plants will know the truth.
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Posted 17 February 2019 - 05:56 PM

View PostSeverian, on 17 February 2019 - 04:08 PM, said:

If things start cooling, you'll see it first in agricultural yields at higher latitudes, not in the overly politically adjusted surface temperature datasets. You can fool with the data, the plants will know the truth.


Ocean levels know the truth. US Navy has been dealing with it for some time now; there are docks in some low-lying bases that are now fully underwater that didn't used to be.

I trust the US Navy oceanographers implicity. I have, in the past, literally, "put my life in their hands". And would again in the future if called upon.

Let's be clear: "Climate Change" is REAL. Because the climate is ALWAYS changing. The US Navy knows this. Before them the British Royal Navy (And probably the Dutch and Spanish and Frogs) understood this. Back in the day, Royal Navy was MORE interested in magnetic changes (Yeah, THAT's changing too). They've got logbooks documenting 300-400 years.


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 08:29 PM

Don't you knuckledragging conservatives understand!? Climate change theories and modeling predict climate cooling.

The only way to stop climate change is:

A ) Cease all industrial activity in the United States
B ) Enact all of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Green New Deal in its entirety
C ) Completely ignore any other economic growth and/or environmental contamination in China, India, Russia, and developing countries
D ) Remove all rights for white males to vote or hold public office.

Only then would humanity (except white people, who by necessity must be exterminated, but we'll get to that later) and the rest of the planet be saved.
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Posted 17 February 2019 - 08:43 PM

Yep, it's normal heating then cooling and repeat. It's almost like there is some cycle going on here. I believe the Chinese calendar actually predicts this cycle too, but what the hell would a bunch of backwards people before communism know?
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Posted 17 February 2019 - 10:52 PM

The next, new buzz-saying will be: the Earth, and its climate, are...wait for it...bipolar.
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Posted 18 February 2019 - 11:43 AM

View PostDean Adam Smithee, on 17 February 2019 - 05:56 PM, said:

Ocean levels know the truth. US Navy has been dealing with it for some time now; there are docks in some low-lying bases that are now fully underwater that didn't used to be.

I trust the US Navy oceanographers implicity. I have, in the past, literally, "put my life in their hands". And would again in the future if called upon.


Let's be clear: "Climate Change" is REAL. Because the climate is ALWAYS changing. The US Navy knows this. Before them the British Royal Navy (And probably the Dutch and Spanish and Frogs) understood this. Back in the day, Royal Navy was MORE interested in magnetic changes (Yeah, THAT's changing too). They've got logbooks documenting 300-400 years.



Suuuure.

These people can't and don't ever lie? So it must be global warming/"climate change" that's the cause?

I have some farmland in downtown Chicago that I'd like to sell ya, cheap!

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