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#1 User is offline   Liz 

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  Posted 02 April 2019 - 10:41 AM

Eric Holder Wants Mueller Report Out, But Argued Against Full Transparency After Starr Report

Washington Examiner
by Jerry Dunleavy
April 02, 2019 11:08 AM

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Former Attorney General Eric Holder joined the chorus Democrats calling for the full release of special counsel Robert Mueller's final report, but in the wake of the Starr report he made the opposite argument.

Speaking with Ari Mebler on MSNBC last Monday, Holder said, ďYou look at the letter and youíre trying to figure how much of this is Barr, how much of this is Mueller, how much of this is based on the Mueller findings?... Congress and the public are going to have to get access to the Mueller report.Ē

Yet back in 1999, when he was deputy attorney general in the Clinton administration, Holder's position was starkly different. ďAlthough there is a legitimate concern that the American people have a right to know the outcome of an investigation of their highest officials, the reporting requirement goes directly against most traditions and practices of law enforcement and American ideals," he said after the completion of independent counsel Ken Starr's investigation.

At the time, the Justice Department was governed by the independent counsel statute which was supported by many Democrats from the time of the Watergate era up until Starr started investigating former President Bill Clinton. Then-Attorney General Janet Reno's DOJ came out in opposition to the independent counsel statute in 1999 and it lapsed. The Clinton administration replaced it with the current and more restricting special counsel regulations, which Attorney General William Barr cited in his letter to Congress and could explain why the Mueller report that gets made public might not end up showing the same level of detail as the Starr report.

Reno would speak in front of the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee on May 14, 1993, urging them to reauthorize the independent counsel statute. ďIt is my firm conviction that the law has been a good one, helping to restore public confidence in our system's ability to investigate wrongdoing by high-level Executive Branch officials,Ē she said. The law was reauthorized the next year.

But, in 1994, Starr was appointed as independent counsel to investigate the Clinton-related Whitewater scandal, and he would carry out his investigation for four years. In September 1998, it culminated in the release of the Starr report ó which was full of salacious details about Clinton's affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky ó and ultimately led to the impeachment of Clinton in December 1998. The Starr report was around 445 pages long, while Mueller's report is nearly 400 pages in length according to Barr.

By the time of the Starr report, the independent counsel law had fallen out of favor with Clintonís Justice Department. Reno sent Holder to speak in front of the House Judiciary's Commercial and Administrative Law Subcommittee on March 2, 1999, where he revealed that the DOJ was officially opposing the reauthorization of the law.

Holder testified that a major flaw with the independent counsel law was its reporting requirements, which allowed non-criminal but potentially politically damaging information to be made public. ďA final problem ... is the Act's requirement that a final report be prepared by the Independent Counsel," he said.

ďIt is contrary to our concept of a presumption of innocence, our placing of high value on rights of privacy, and our Departmental tradition that we reveal offenses in the courtroom during a criminal trial, not by filing a document that is never filed when we decline to prosecute ordinary criminal cases and that may reveal information that subjects an individual to public embarrassment," he said. ďBut worst of all ... the reporting requirement provides an incentive for Independent Counsel to over-investigate every detail in order to avoid criticism that their final reports missed something."

Twenty years later, Holder is striking a different tone.

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 10:47 AM

Gee... A democrat who is also a hypocrite. Color me shocked.
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Posted 02 April 2019 - 11:07 AM

Hypocrisy all around.
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Posted 02 April 2019 - 12:48 PM

View PostLadybird, on 02 April 2019 - 11:07 AM, said:

Hypocrisy all around.


Self-reflecting?
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Posted 02 April 2019 - 12:53 PM

The independent council should have broad powers to investigate, should have power to bring charges for crimes discovered in the investigative process that aren't directly related to the matter being investigated (a crime is a crime is a crime), and should NEVER disclose embarrassing information about public or private citizens who aren't being charged with a crime.
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Posted 02 April 2019 - 02:54 PM

View PostLadybird, on 02 April 2019 - 11:07 AM, said:

Hypocrisy all around.

:biglaugh:
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Posted 02 April 2019 - 03:13 PM

Leftists only have two modes to defend their side:
1. Hereís an anecdote thatís against the 11,000 examples you have
2. (Failing that) Everybody does it
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Posted 02 April 2019 - 05:06 PM

If this had been an Obama or Clinton investigation, would any of you be satisfied with the report not being released?

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 05:14 PM

View PostLadybird, on 02 April 2019 - 05:06 PM, said:

If this had been an Obama or Clinton investigation, would any of you be datified with the report not being released?


We would and do recognize the law that the Democrats put in place to seal the report is the law. That making demands and issuing subpoenas is another example of one political party's unending quest to undo the 2016 election and put We the People back in place.
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Posted 02 April 2019 - 05:19 PM

View Postzurg, on 02 April 2019 - 03:13 PM, said:

Leftists only have two modes to defend their side:
1. Hereís an anecdote thatís against the 11,000 examples you have
2. (Failing that) Everybody does it


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Posted 02 April 2019 - 05:41 PM

View PostLeansToTheRight, on 02 April 2019 - 12:48 PM, said:

Self-reflecting?


Hey-yoooooo!

View PostLadybird, on 02 April 2019 - 11:07 AM, said:

Hypocrisy all around.


:biglaugh:
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Posted 02 April 2019 - 05:55 PM

So the right is evil for following the lefts laws? Did you yell or anyone on the left side when the law was put in place or was that different because it helped you he left? The answer to that is being a hypocrit by definition. Please stop xplain what laws you support and when they can or canít be used and who they can be used against. I only see one side acting as hypocrite. But please enlighten me
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Posted 02 April 2019 - 05:59 PM

View PostLadybird, on 02 April 2019 - 05:06 PM, said:

If this had been an Obama or Clinton investigation, would any of you be satisfied with the report not being released?

Probably not but the law isn't to be broken just because your party is having another collective breakdown because something else didn't go your way.

Perhaps you people should grow the <censored> up?
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Posted 02 April 2019 - 06:07 PM

Horrible the left has to admit they were either stupid, incompetent or covering thier ass,putting the law in place or that and hypocrites not wanting it now. Suck it up buttercups

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 06:15 PM

View PostMagic Rat, on 02 April 2019 - 05:59 PM, said:

Probably not but the law isn't to be broken just because your party is having another collective breakdown because something else didn't go your way.

Perhaps you people should grow the <censored> up?


Probably not. The right would screeching like pigs getting slaughtered.
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Posted 02 April 2019 - 06:18 PM

Lol so your all for breaking laws in the hopes it benifit democrats? Thanks for making your views known , I guess thatís no surprise lady bird. Gone from defending criminals to cheering for law breaking before it happens.

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 06:22 PM

ď# laws arenít for rebublicans or trumpĒ lady birds view in a hash tag summed up. Nice view are you sure you arenít related to any hat guy and Timmy?

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 06:24 PM

A country that no longer follows its own laws is no longer a republic. It's on the slippery slope to being a totalitarian state.
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Posted 02 April 2019 - 06:30 PM

But we follow laws they just shouldnt be followed by democrats or apply to them even if they made it rhe law. Thatís the argument Iím seeing posted here? Right lb

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 07:01 PM

View PostLadybird, on 02 April 2019 - 06:15 PM, said:

Probably not. The right would screeching like pigs getting slaughtered.

Youíre just having a fit because itís another Harry Reid moment coming back to haunt you and you donít like it anymore (but it was fine when the other side was suffering and you had the upper hand).
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