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Posted 13 April 2019 - 05:16 PM

Ilhan Omar: Why I Hate Israel
POSTED ON JUNE 24, 2018
BY SCOTT JOHNSON
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State representative Ilhan Omar has yet to complete her first term in the Minnesota legislature, where she has accomplished approximately nothing of substance, though she has now secured the DFL endorsement to succeed Minnesota Fifth District Rep. Keith Ellison in Congress. In the brief Weekly Standard article "The anti-Israel seat," I conclude with observations related to Omar's frank hatred of Israel. She doesn't sugarcoat it. She calls Israel an "apartheid regime."

That is a defamatory falsehood with a shabby provenance. In Omar's case, it is something more than an impulsive comment in a recent tweet. It represents her considered judgment. One can see it at work in her remarks on the floor of the Minnesota House in opposition to a bill (HF 400) opposing the boycott of Israel promoted by so-called BDS groups harking back to the "Zionism is racism" lie of the 1970's.

The anti-boycott bill had strong bipartisan support in both houses of the Minnesota legislature. I believe that Republican Rep. Ron Kresha sponsored the bill in the house along with (my cousin) DFL Rep. Jon Applebaum.

Omar spoke against the bill on the floor of the house in February 2017. First she played her song of identity politics in the key of nobody knows the trouble I've seen: "I think I know a little bit about discrimination. I face it every single day. I carry multiple identities that are constantly, constantly being discriminated against." Then she launched into this disquisition, likening Israel to the racist South African regime while distinguishing the Jewish people from the Jewish state:

I thank the author [Rep. Kresha] for thinking about this particular bill but I am saddened by the particular purpose I believe this bill serves. Some of the members in this room have spoken to and would like to believe that this is a particular bill that is to support the Jewish community. Some would even think that this is a great bill because we are a body that is fighting against discrimination.

If those two things were true there would have been a great support for [DFL] Rep. Hornstein's amendment [described here]. I believe that this is the kind of thing we bring forth so that we create more division. We further a narrative that says particular peoples, the oppressions that they might feel, the ways that they might see they might want to use their freedoms in order to oppose a government that they might feel is oppressing is not okay and they don't have a right to do so.

As many of you know I come from Africa and I wasn't old enough to know all that was happening in South Africa when the apartheid was prevalent there, when South Africa was apartheid state. But I remember my grandfather talking to me about the stories of apartheid South Africa and telling me how that conversation shifted because so many people of conscience, so many people who understood that it was obviously for countries to continue to support South Africa have decided that they were going to engage in boycotts of that government so that that system would go down.

And so what we might see today and what we might not agree with because it is not a popular discourse might actually be a reality that some people might be living in. And we here in Minnesota, certainly in this body who are not educated enough to understand the nuances of the people who are living in Israel and Palestine are going through should not be having these conversations about what is appropriate and what it isn't [sic].

I certainly never advocate for any kind of discrimination. I never will. But what I do advocate for is for all of us to work towards furthering peace in the world. And I do believe that you never get to having peace without justice. That is a fundamental thing that first must happen before we further peace.

We know, and I am certainly saddened by the rise of anti-Semitism and I have been part of a community that has been raising funds to support the Jewish community in this time of need because as my community is struggling with the particular ban that our president wants to put on us, the Jewish community has been side by side fighting with us, making sure that we have the resources that we need because I think there is a particular connection and brotherhood and sisterhood that Muslims and Jews have, one that is fundamentally based in our shared space in history, our shared land and one that we will never forget.

But what governments do and what is based in systems are very different. They truly are. And so I oppose this bill. I would love to have voted for a bill that would have expanded our ideals of fighting against discrimination and being a body that actually stood up against all discrimination. I don't want to be part of a vote that limits the ability of people to fight toward that justice and peace.

The legislative history of HF 400 is posted here. The text of the bill is here. Omar's opposition to the contrary notwithstanding, the bill was passed by both houses of the Minnesota legislature and signed by Governor Dayton in May 2017. The Jewish Community Relations Council press release celebrating the passage of the bill is posted online here.

Omar is an attractive woman until she opens her mouth to speak.

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 06:28 PM

View PostScott Johnson, on 13 April 2019 - 05:16 PM, said:

Omar is an attractive woman until she opens her mouth to speak.


Maybe Scott Johnson thinks so. I disagree. That scarf around her head, and WHAT IT REPRESENTS, make her extremely ugly.

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 07:14 PM

View PostMontyPython, on 13 April 2019 - 06:28 PM, said:

Maybe Scott Johnson thinks so. I disagree. That scarf around her head, and WHAT IT REPRESENTS, make her extremely ugly.

http://www.rightnation.us/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif


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Posted 13 April 2019 - 08:21 PM

Multiple identities?
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Posted 14 April 2019 - 09:53 AM

View PostMontyPython, on 13 April 2019 - 06:28 PM, said:

Maybe Scott Johnson thinks so. I disagree. That scarf around her head, and WHAT IT REPRESENTS, make her extremely ugly.

<_<

She's good enough to be wife 3 or 4 in some muslim's multi wife home...
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Posted 14 April 2019 - 05:19 PM

View PostMontyPython, on 13 April 2019 - 06:28 PM, said:

Maybe Scott Johnson thinks so. I disagree. That scarf around her head, and WHAT IT REPRESENTS, make her extremely ugly.

<_<



:rolleyes: It represents Islamic tradition just as kippah represents jewish, donít be such a phobe.
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Posted 14 April 2019 - 05:32 PM

View PostAntonToo, on 14 April 2019 - 05:19 PM, said:

:rolleyes: It represents Islamic tradition just as kippah represents jewish, donít be such a phobe.

As usual, you missed the context. She said that she started wearing it AFTER the destruction brought to America by 9-11 attacks. After. Do you understand what that means?
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Posted 14 April 2019 - 05:36 PM

and we have anouther person excusing her words and actions. not surprised who.Now explain everything else she has stated anton and please tell me what that adds up to not taking one out of context when you have multiple ones its not out of context? or can you ,,keep justifying. not surprised what do you believe she has meant to say and stands for?

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Posted 14 April 2019 - 06:27 PM

again anton what do you believe she stands for and how should we take her overall statements and words?what do they mean?what conclusions do you draw from them and what does she stand for over all?
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Posted 14 April 2019 - 07:22 PM

View Postzurg, on 14 April 2019 - 05:32 PM, said:

As usual, you missed the context. She said that she started wearing it AFTER the destruction brought to America by 9-11 attacks. After. Do you understand what that means?


I think I understand, but why donít you tell us another one of your very cool, fantastical stories about what you think it means.

Squirrel jump in and tell us what she is all about.

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Posted 14 April 2019 - 07:32 PM

Answer I expected anton,,, no misdirection ,hate speach fine from the left.i think Iíve stated and she has what she has actually said multiple times. Itís hate speach, anti Semitic and sheís a liar. Now your turn why should we not believe her stated opinions. I know your redirect is what opinions what words. Read the threads. Check the news. Itís been pointed out to you multiple times and already stated here. So what now? Your pathetic defense of her and stupid what... show your own hypocracy. The left just went from defending and starting the klan to this. But hey tow the line itís not rascist if itís one of ours, right?

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Posted 14 April 2019 - 09:40 PM

View PostAntonToo, on 14 April 2019 - 07:22 PM, said:

I think I understand, but why donít you tell us another one of your very cool, fantastical stories about what you think it means.

Squirrel jump in and tell us what she is all about.

And here she and the Muslim community say the hijab is a religious symbol and choice and as long as itís private, it should be allowed. https://www.hautehij...-even-a-problem

Itís good of your side to give all kinds of freedoms to Muslims and take the freedoms away from Christians.
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Posted 14 April 2019 - 11:35 PM

View PostAntonToo, on 14 April 2019 - 05:19 PM, said:

:rolleyes: It represents Islamic tradition just as kippah represents jewish, donít be such a phobe.


LOL. Living in self-imposed ignorance, as usual.

Sorry Anton, but a "phobia" means an irrational fear or aversion. There's nothing whatsoever even remotely "irrational" about an aversion to a dangerous, violent cult that numbers in the billions.

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 05:00 AM

View PostAntonToo, on 14 April 2019 - 05:19 PM, said:

:rolleyes: It represents Islamic tradition just as kippah represents jewish, donít be such a phobe.


:yawn:

Don't be such a troll.

View PostAntonToo, on 14 April 2019 - 07:22 PM, said:

I think I understand, but why donít you tell us another one of your very cool, fantastical stories about what you think it means.

Squirrel jump in and tell us what she is all about.


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View PostSquirrel, on 14 April 2019 - 07:32 PM, said:

Answer I expected anton,,, no misdirection ,hate speach fine from the left.i think Iíve stated and she has what she has actually said multiple times. Itís hate speach, anti Semitic and sheís a liar. Now your turn why should we not believe her stated opinions. I know your redirect is what opinions what words. Read the threads. Check the news. Itís been pointed out to you multiple times and already stated here. So what now? Your pathetic defense of her and stupid what... show your own hypocracy. The left just went from defending and starting the klan to this. But hey tow the line itís not rascist if itís one of ours, right?


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View PostMontyPython, on 14 April 2019 - 11:35 PM, said:

LOL. Living in self-imposed ignorance, as usual.

Sorry Anton, but a "phobia" means an irrational fear or aversion. There's nothing whatsoever even remotely "irrational" about an aversion to a dangerous, violent cult that numbers in the billions.

:rolleyes:


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View Postzurg, on 14 April 2019 - 09:40 PM, said:

And here she and the Muslim community say the hijab is a religious symbol and choice and as long as itís private, it should be allowed. https://www.hautehij...-even-a-problem

Itís good of your side to give all kinds of freedoms to Muslims and take the freedoms away from Christians.


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View PostMontyPython, on 13 April 2019 - 06:28 PM, said:

Maybe Scott Johnson thinks so. I disagree. That scarf around her head, and WHAT IT REPRESENTS, make her extremely ugly.

<_<


He must be blind.
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Posted 15 April 2019 - 06:14 PM

View PostMontyPython, on 14 April 2019 - 11:35 PM, said:

LOL. Living in self-imposed ignorance, as usual.

Sorry Anton, but a "phobia" means an irrational fear or aversion. There's nothing whatsoever even remotely "irrational" about an aversion to a dangerous, violent cult that numbers in the billions.

:rolleyes:


Well Zerg, there goes your little story about context.

As Monty clearly states, he has a "reasonable' aversion to muslims and therefore cannot possibly be an islamophobe. :rolleyes:

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Posted 15 April 2019 - 06:26 PM

And you can clearly not confront her own words and opinions . Anton so again what does she mean by her words and what can we believe? There goes you argument until you can answer.
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Posted 15 April 2019 - 07:58 PM

View PostAntonToo, on 15 April 2019 - 06:14 PM, said:

Well Zerg, there goes your little story about context.

As Monty clearly states, he has a "reasonable' aversion to muslims and therefore cannot possibly be an islamophobe. :rolleyes:


Zurg (not "Zerg" BTW. This once again shows what level of attention you customarily pay) is his own man. His posts, unlike yours, tend to be intelligent, thought out, and readable. But he doesn't speak for me, and I don't speak for him. I stand by what I post, just as I'm sure he stands by what he posts.

Yes, it's not "phobia" to recognize the Muslim hatred of western culture and the violent tendencies of the large number of extremists among them. Are "all" Muslims bad people? Of course not, and I've never tried to suggest they are. But it's not "phobic" to recognize the danger inherent in not being being wary about them.

B)
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Posted 15 April 2019 - 11:22 PM

View PostMontyPython, on 15 April 2019 - 07:58 PM, said:

Zurg (not "Zerg" BTW. This once again shows what level of attention you customarily pay) is his own man. His posts, unlike yours, tend to be intelligent, thought out, and readable. But he doesn't speak for me, and I don't speak for him. I stand by what I post, just as I'm sure he stands by what he posts.

Yes, it's not "phobia" to recognize the Muslim hatred of western culture and the violent tendencies of the large number of extremists among them. Are "all" Muslims bad people? Of course not, and I've never tried to suggest they are. But it's not "phobic" to recognize the danger inherent in not being being wary about them.

B)

Anton could cut and paste Shakespeare and what he posted would come out as semi-literate BS.

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  Posted 15 April 2019 - 11:33 PM

CUT THE TROLLING, ANTON.
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Posted 16 April 2019 - 05:39 AM

Jerusalem is holy ground to both Jews and Muslims. I THINK both religions believe God gave the land to them and why this conflict is so difficult to settle. If you think about how to defeat Israel, you have to remove America's support first. I'm no expert, but it sure looks like the anti-Semitism being pushed by Omar and others is an effort to that end.

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