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Posted 10 June 2019 - 10:39 AM

California's Largest Utility Warns Tens Of Thousands Of People Could See Power Shut Off Due To Extreme Fire Risk

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8 June 2019

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  • Pacific Gas & Electric Co., California's largest electric utility, warns Friday it might cut power as early as this weekend to portions of its service area due to extreme fire risk.
  • The California Public Utilities Commission has approved expanded blackouts in high fire-risk areas to reduce wildfire danger.
  • California has a history of power lines sometimes sparking wildfires, including during high wind conditions when trees and their branches can knock down lines.

LOS ANGELES ó Pacific Gas & Electric Co., California's largest electric utility, warned Friday afternoon it might cut power as early as this weekend to portions of its service area due to extreme fire risk.

It follows the California Public Utilities Commission last week approving expanded blackouts in high fire-risk areas to reduce wildfire danger. Proactively shutting down power is part of wildfire mitigation plans filed recently by several major utilities.

PG&E filed for bankruptcy protection in late January after being hit with a flood of lawsuits from devastating wildfires in Northern California in 2017 and 2018.

The utility tweeted Friday afternoon it was "actively monitoring weather conditions" and might cut power "within the next 18 to 36 hours in areas of the North Bay and the Sierra foothills where extreme fire risks exist." Those are some of the same regions that have experienced catastrophic wildfires in recent years.

The state is bracing for perhaps another severe wildfire season after devastating 2017 and 2018 blazes that killed more than 120 people. California has a history of power lines sometimes sparking wildfires, including during high wind conditions when trees and their branches can knock down lines.

"De-energizing power lines may be necessary as a last resort to avert devastating utility caused wildfires," said California Public Utilities Commissioner Clifford Rechtschaffen.

Utilities are responsible for clearing brush and trees from power lines to prevent fires. In California, utilities face liability under what's known as inverse condemnation as well as for negligence claims for wildfire and other damaging incidents caused by such things as power lines or other utility equipment.

According to PG&E's website, the company's wildfire mitigation plan includes a so-called public safety power shutoff option that could "last several hours or days."

The drastic step of cutting power has raised concern that the elderly, disabled and those with special medical needs could be at risk if outages last an extended amount of time.

"There's a lot of concern that these power shutoffs will be the cause of a lot of endangerment," said Mark Toney, executive director of The Utility Reform Network, a consumer group.

Overall, PG&E has more than 16 million electric and gas customers in its coverage area.

PG&E's website has warned a "power outage could impact any of the more than 5 million customers who receive electric service from PG&E. This is because the energy system relies on power lines working together to provide electricity across cities, counties and regions."

Cal Fire blamed the San Francisco-based electric utility's equipment for at least 17 wildfires in the state's wine country in October 2017, including two blazes that resulted in a total of 13 fatalities.

Also, Cal Fire in May announced that PG&E's electrical transmission lines caused the November 2018 Camp Fire ó the deadliest and most destructive fire in California history.

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Posted 10 June 2019 - 10:49 AM

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Is this like shutting off the water to prevent heart attacks?
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Posted 10 June 2019 - 10:55 AM

View PostLiz, on 10 June 2019 - 10:39 AM, said:

California's Largest Utility Warns Tens Of Thousands Of People Could See Power Shut Off Due To Extreme Fire Risk

CNBC
Jeff Daniels
8 June 2019

Excerpt:

  • Pacific Gas & Electric Co., California's largest electric utility, warns Friday it might cut power as early as this weekend to portions of its service area due to extreme fire risk.
  • The California Public Utilities Commission has approved expanded blackouts in high fire-risk areas to reduce wildfire danger.
  • California has a history of power lines sometimes sparking wildfires, including during high wind conditions when trees and their branches can knock down lines.

LOS ANGELES ó Pacific Gas & Electric Co., California's largest electric utility, warned Friday afternoon it might cut power as early as this weekend to portions of its service area due to extreme fire risk.

It follows the California Public Utilities Commission last week approving expanded blackouts in high fire-risk areas to reduce wildfire danger. Proactively shutting down power is part of wildfire mitigation plans filed recently by several major utilities.

PG&E filed for bankruptcy protection in late January after being hit with a flood of lawsuits from devastating wildfires in Northern California in 2017 and 2018.

The utility tweeted Friday afternoon it was "actively monitoring weather conditions" and might cut power "within the next 18 to 36 hours in areas of the North Bay and the Sierra foothills where extreme fire risks exist." Those are some of the same regions that have experienced catastrophic wildfires in recent years.

he state is bracing for perhaps another severe wildfire season after devastating 2017 and 2018 blazes that killed more than 120 people. California has a history of power lines sometimes sparking wildfires, including during high wind conditions when trees and their branches can knock down lines.

"De-energizing power lines may be necessary as a last resort to avert devastating utility caused wildfires," said California Public Utilities Commissioner Clifford Rechtschaffen.

Utilities are responsible for clearing brush and trees from power lines to prevent fires. In California, utilities face liability under what's known as inverse condemnation as well as for negligence claims for wildfire and other damaging incidents caused by such things as power lines or other utility equipment.

According to PG&E's website, the company's wildfire mitigation plan includes a so-called public safety power shutoff option that could "last several hours or days."

The drastic step of cutting power has raised concern that the elderly, disabled and those with special medical needs could be at risk if outages last an extended amount of time.

"There's a lot of concern that these power shutoffs will be the cause of a lot of endangerment," said Mark Toney, executive director of The Utility Reform Network, a consumer group.

Overall, PG&E has more than 16 million electric and gas customers in its coverage area.

PG&E's website has warned a "power outage could impact any of the more than 5 million customers who receive electric service from PG&E. This is because the energy system relies on power lines working together to provide electricity across cities, counties and regions."

Cal Fire blamed the San Francisco-based electric utility's equipment for at least 17 wildfires in the state's wine country in October 2017, including two blazes that resulted in a total of 13 fatalities.

Also, Cal Fire in May announced that PG&E's electrical transmission lines caused the November 2018 Camp Fire ó the deadliest and most destructive fire in California history.

*snip*

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Typical CA, land of fruits and nuts. gotta have power, need transmission lines to send the electricity but the state mandates we cannot cut or clear undergrowth along the transmission lines cause it is a habitat for the rainbow pillow biter, where to build the transmission lines....oh I know lets resurrect Nikloi Tesla research and transmit electricity thru the air, that will creat all sorts of new jobs in the state!!!
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Posted 10 June 2019 - 12:44 PM

They know that they are as guilty as hell for causing that last huge wildfire.

It's because of deliberate lack of proper maintenance to their high tension lines and switch gear that had caused it all because they are saving that money for themselves for bonuses for the big people at the top. They also keep asking for rate increases to cover the maintenance costs for the aging infrastructure but won't give up any of their bonuses or pay raises to do it.

Our local utility here has been caught neglecting their high tension line maintenance too and they have been responsible for several recent fires as well as burning out millions of dollars worth of large 3 phase motor controls at my workplace(s) numerous times and also in the nearby industrial parks. Of course they refused to accept blame for any of it or pay for any of the very expensive damages that they have caused.

They are doing like our mayor here that threw a tantrum over not getting his tax increases to shore up the pension plans here that the city has skipped making their payments to; he's cutting essential services such as pot hole repairs, yard waste pickup and closing public libraries etc. only in the white neighborhoods while refusing to cut off free city taxpayer paid wifi and social outreach programs in the west end/black neighborhoods just TO piss off the white people who raised hell about tax increases while the wasteful spending continues on.
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Posted 10 June 2019 - 06:06 PM

View PostUSMCforever60, on 10 June 2019 - 10:55 AM, said:

Typical CA, land of fruits and nuts. gotta have power, need transmission lines to send the electricity but the state mandates we cannot cut or clear undergrowth along the transmission lines cause it is a habitat for the rainbow pillow biter, where to build the transmission lines....oh I know lets resurrect Nikloi Tesla research and transmit electricity thru the air, that will creat all sorts of new jobs in the state!!!

Aside: itís cool that you know Tesla was aiming to transmit wireless power, not signal. He had Marconi beat but didnít care to demo it.
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Posted 10 June 2019 - 07:58 PM

You know if they have problems with high winds knocking down power lines I am betting if they buried those lines they wouldn't have the problem. Oh wait that is solving the problem instead of just letting it destroy you over and over. How many times did they rebuild those above ground lines due to fires? Bet they could have solved this years ago.
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Posted 10 June 2019 - 08:08 PM

View PostTaggart Transcontinental, on 10 June 2019 - 07:58 PM, said:

You know if they have problems with high winds knocking down power lines I am betting if they buried those lines they wouldn't have the problem. Oh wait that is solving the problem instead of just letting it destroy you over and over. How many times did they rebuild those above ground lines due to fires? Bet they could have solved this years ago.

It costs a lot more to bury them.

Sooo....... it's all about the $$$$$. :yes:
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Posted 10 June 2019 - 09:37 PM

View PostRock N, on 10 June 2019 - 08:08 PM, said:

It costs a lot more to bury them.

Sooo....... it's all about the $$$$$. :yes:

I think itís all about feeling good and no common sense. Iíd compare it to Michigan or Wisconsin. I forget which that has to start a program to sterilize deer. Because more hunting is just bad. Some one will pay to put food on a table wrong letís pay for this,,,tree hugger logic
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Posted 11 June 2019 - 03:02 AM

View PostRock N, on 10 June 2019 - 08:08 PM, said:

It costs a lot more to bury them.

Sooo....... it's all about the $$$$$. :yes:


Are we still talking about the powerlines? :whistling:
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Posted 11 June 2019 - 07:07 AM

View PostUSMCforever60, on 10 June 2019 - 10:55 AM, said:

Typical CA, land of fruits and nuts. gotta have power, need transmission lines to send the electricity but the state mandates we cannot cut or clear undergrowth along the transmission lines cause it is a habitat for the rainbow pillow biter, where to build the transmission lines....oh I know lets resurrect Nikloi Tesla research and transmit electricity thru the air, that will creat all sorts of new jobs in the state!!!


Ain't socialism grand?
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Posted 11 June 2019 - 08:19 AM

View PostTaggart Transcontinental, on 10 June 2019 - 07:58 PM, said:

You know if they have problems with high winds knocking down power lines I am betting if they buried those lines they wouldn't have the problem. Oh wait that is solving the problem instead of just letting it destroy you over and over. How many times did they rebuild those above ground lines due to fires? Bet they could have solved this years ago.


Well, it is a little more complicated per sei. All newer fiber optics, copper communications, and such are buried true enough but it's not without it's issues as well. Largely f nuts on back hoes and augers. As someone who works for a smallish telecom we deal with these s.o.b.'s on a daily basis. Don't call ditch diggers or get clearance, just start digging, by the time they get here we will be done and long gone, oh well that's what insurance is for mentality. The worst are typically any crews doing something for the state or county such as a road or pipe project. If a copper or fiber optic cable gets in the way oh well mentality. Property owners tend to be much more careful, they don't have the state or county to cover their sorry asses.

But, most of these clowns do tend to be much more careful around gas and power though. I do think there may be various state or even federal laws forbidding the burying of high voltage transmission lines. In part due to concerns about current leakage as well as being able to inspect or replace. As well unless they are placed into conduit there may be issues with the soil causing degradation and the insulation to wear sooner then being expose to the air. I do know that there is of coarse a minimum spacing the the phases must be apart, right away might not have that much room. Different rules for air right away vs ground.

In most places right away rules is under your side walk, the dirt between your side walk and the road or street. Even sections of your own property or backyard. It can get unbelievably complicated, even between two properties that are side by side. That alone can make it impossible to lay a power line, cable, or bury even an existing one. Some of that can be due to property owners who are greedy a$$holes and some of it can be localities that are just being pricks. I'd apologize for the language but given your profession this is probably a church picnic in comparison to what you hear daily anyways... :drinkers:

I have learned this stuff because my former boss who I still talk to as we work in the same department is the manager for our fiber optic cables, and I work with a our side guys who take care of the fiber optics as well as copper stuff and AT&T, Century Link, for services that utilize them. Hmmm..... reminds me, I should ask my uncle who is retired know but used to work on the high tension transmission lines. Even though he isn't a big guy and never was or any type of physical bad ass. Anyone who can do this is a bad ass in their own right.
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