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Posted 08 July 2019 - 08:36 AM

ICE Has Been Mining DMV Databases Using Facial Recognition For Years
By David Gilbert Jul 8, 2019


Tens of millions of U.S. citizens have had their faces scanned by the FBI and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) without their knowledge or consent, according to new documents collected by researchers at Georgetown Law.

Shared with the Washington Post and the New York Times, the documents reveal that between 2014 and 2017, the agencies mined the databases of the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) in states across the country, sometimes with as little as an emailed request to a DMV employee.

The records show how facial recognition technology has already become an integral part of daily law enforcement activity in the U.S. is being used to track down suspects in low-level crimes like cashing a stolen check and petty theft.

The use of this unofficial surveillance infrastructure has never been authorized by Congress or any State legislature, and advocates say running facial recognition searches against databases of millions of law-abiding citizens is a serious breach of privacy.

“This is a scandal,” Harrison Rudolph, a researcher at Georgetown Law told the New York Times. “States have never passed laws authorizing ICE to dive into driver’s license databases using facial recognition to look for folks."

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According to a report from the Government Accountability Office published last month, 21 states allow the FBI to scan DMV databases. Since 2011, the FBI has logged more than 390,000 facial-recognition searches of federal and local databases, including DMV databases, according to the same report.

The documents gathered by Georgetown Law researchers mark the first known instance of ICE using facial recognition technology to scan state driver’s license databases, including photos of legal residents and citizens.

The records show that in Utah, Vermont and Washington State, all of which offer driving licenses or permits to undocumented immigrants, ICE officials have requested to comb through state repositories of license photos. Officials in Utah and Vermont complied, while Washington State required a court order.

“The state has told [undocumented immigrants], has encouraged them, to submit that information. To me, it’s an insane breach of trust to then turn around and allow ICE access to that,” said Clare Garvie, a senior associate with Georgetown Law’s Center on Privacy and Technology, who led the research.

"These states have never told undocumented people that when they apply for a driver’s license they are also turning over their face to ICE," Rudolph said. "That is a huge bait and switch.

The documents don’t reveal if the ICE search requests have directly resulted in the deportation of undocumented immigrants, and a spokesperson for the agency told the New York Times said he could not comment on “investigative techniques, tactics or tools” because of “law-enforcement sensitivities.”

But, he added, “during the course of an investigation, ICE has the ability to collaborate with external local, federal and international agencies to obtain information that may assist in case completion and subsequent prosecution. This is an established procedure that is consistent with other law enforcement agencies.”

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At a hearing in May, Republican and Democratic members of the House Oversight and Reform Committee slammed the use of facial recognition technology and voiced support for passing federal laws to limit its use.

The committee’s ranking Republican, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), compared the use of facial recognition to George Orwell’s dystopian novel “1984.” “Seems to me it’s time for a timeout,” Jordan said. “Doesn’t matter what side of the political spectrum you’re on, this should concern us all.”

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Posted 08 July 2019 - 09:06 AM

Good.
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Posted 08 July 2019 - 09:20 AM

Double good
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Posted 08 July 2019 - 09:24 AM

View PostModerator T, on 08 July 2019 - 09:06 AM, said:

Good.

View Postfirecoco, on 08 July 2019 - 09:20 AM, said:

Double good


If he is whining about something, it's probably something good.
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Posted 08 July 2019 - 09:32 AM

View PostMTP Reggie, on 08 July 2019 - 09:24 AM, said:

If he is whining about something, it's probably something good.

:yeahthat:


Since when is someone's face 'private'? Unless you're a masked Antifa p***y.
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Posted 08 July 2019 - 09:33 AM

I like the part where illegals think ICE isn't getting their photos.
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Posted 08 July 2019 - 09:38 AM

First they came for the ‘illegals’..
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Posted 08 July 2019 - 09:59 AM

View PostLadybird, on 08 July 2019 - 09:38 AM, said:

First they came for the ‘illegals’..

I'm pretty sure they've been coming for people that break the law long before now.
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Posted 08 July 2019 - 10:10 AM

View PostLadybird, on 08 July 2019 - 09:38 AM, said:

First they came for the ‘illegals’..



Wait. Just so we're clear. You don't think law enforcement should target people who break the law?

Do you honestly believe criminals should be a protected class?





I stand by my previous position that you have lost your mind. The first step is admitting that there is a problem. I wish you the best. Honestly.
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Posted 08 July 2019 - 10:18 AM

View PostTikk, on 08 July 2019 - 10:10 AM, said:

I stand by my previous position that you have lost your mind. The first step is admitting that there is a problem.


Well, honestly... a person who has lost their mind probably doesn't know about it. That's where family/friends have to step in with some sort of intervention and possibly an extended stay in a comfy medical facility with a dinner jacket that ties in the back.
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Posted 08 July 2019 - 10:25 AM

View PostLadybird, on 08 July 2019 - 09:38 AM, said:

First they came for the ‘illegals’..

I’m willing to take that risk.

Oh. I also like the second amendment.
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Posted 08 July 2019 - 10:28 AM

View PostLadybird, on 08 July 2019 - 09:38 AM, said:

First they came for the ‘illegals’..

Congratulations on the NAZI reference you never use!

Then they came for the 'sex traffickers'..

What other lawbreakers do you want to compare to innocent victims of the Holocaust?

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Posted 08 July 2019 - 10:37 AM

Good x 10000
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Posted 08 July 2019 - 10:44 AM

View PostMrdirt73, on 08 July 2019 - 09:59 AM, said:

I'm pretty sure they've been coming for people that break the law long before now.

Right.
In China they’re using this technology to identify and ticket jay walkers. Fun times ahead.
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Posted 08 July 2019 - 10:45 AM

View PostLadybird, on 08 July 2019 - 09:38 AM, said:

First they came for the ‘illegals’..

Too funny...Do you know what self flagellation is?
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Posted 08 July 2019 - 11:10 AM

View PostThat_Guy, on 08 July 2019 - 08:36 AM, said:

ICE Has Been Mining DMV Databases Using Facial Recognition For Years
By David Gilbert Jul 8, 2019


Tens of millions of U.S. citizens have had their faces scanned by the FBI and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) without their knowledge or consent, according to new documents collected by researchers at Georgetown Law.

Shared with the Washington Post and the New York Times, the documents reveal that between 2014 and 2017, the agencies mined the databases of the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) in states across the country, sometimes with as little as an emailed request to a DMV employee.

The records show how facial recognition technology has already become an integral part of daily law enforcement activity in the U.S. is being used to track down suspects in low-level crimes like cashing a stolen check and petty theft.

The use of this unofficial surveillance infrastructure has never been authorized by Congress or any State legislature, and advocates say running facial recognition searches against databases of millions of law-abiding citizens is a serious breach of privacy.

“This is a scandal,” Harrison Rudolph, a researcher at Georgetown Law told the New York Times. “States have never passed laws authorizing ICE to dive into driver’s license databases using facial recognition to look for folks."

<snip>

According to a report from the Government Accountability Office published last month, 21 states allow the FBI to scan DMV databases. Since 2011, the FBI has logged more than 390,000 facial-recognition searches of federal and local databases, including DMV databases, according to the same report.

The documents gathered by Georgetown Law researchers mark the first known instance of ICE using facial recognition technology to scan state driver’s license databases, including photos of legal residents and citizens.

The records show that in Utah, Vermont and Washington State, all of which offer driving licenses or permits to undocumented immigrants, ICE officials have requested to comb through state repositories of license photos. Officials in Utah and Vermont complied, while Washington State required a court order.

“The state has told [undocumented immigrants], has encouraged them, to submit that information. To me, it’s an insane breach of trust to then turn around and allow ICE access to that,” said Clare Garvie, a senior associate with Georgetown Law’s Center on Privacy and Technology, who led the research.

"These states have never told undocumented people that when they apply for a driver’s license they are also turning over their face to ICE," Rudolph said. "That is a huge bait and switch.

The documents don’t reveal if the ICE search requests have directly resulted in the deportation of undocumented immigrants, and a spokesperson for the agency told the New York Times said he could not comment on “investigative techniques, tactics or tools” because of “law-enforcement sensitivities.”

But, he added, “during the course of an investigation, ICE has the ability to collaborate with external local, federal and international agencies to obtain information that may assist in case completion and subsequent prosecution. This is an established procedure that is consistent with other law enforcement agencies.”

<snip>

At a hearing in May, Republican and Democratic members of the House Oversight and Reform Committee slammed the use of facial recognition technology and voiced support for passing federal laws to limit its use.

The committee’s ranking Republican, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), compared the use of facial recognition to George Orwell’s dystopian novel “1984.” “Seems to me it’s time for a timeout,” Jordan said. “Doesn’t matter what side of the political spectrum you’re on, this should concern us all.”

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Good.

And clearly it has your panties in a bind...:biglaugh:

View PostMTP Reggie, on 08 July 2019 - 09:24 AM, said:

If he is whining about something, it's probably something good.


:exactly:

View PostTikk, on 08 July 2019 - 10:10 AM, said:

Wait. Just so we're clear. You don't think law enforcement should target people who break the law?

Do you honestly believe criminals should be a protected class?





I stand by my previous position that you have lost your mind. The first step is admitting that there is a problem. I wish you the best. Honestly.


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Posted 08 July 2019 - 11:14 AM

I think they should all be microchipped so we can track them. If they ever become a citizen through the proper process, then the microchip gets removed.
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Posted 08 July 2019 - 11:31 AM

What a pickle this puts the left in. They love big government, but when it affects their precious illegals, not so much. :whistling:
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Posted 08 July 2019 - 11:44 AM

View PostLadybird, on 08 July 2019 - 09:38 AM, said:

First they came for the ‘illegals’..

The feds spy on everyone and have for decades ever since the invention of the internet.

Why not spy on illegals too?

At least they DESERVE to be spied upon because THEY ARE CRIMINALS.
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Posted 08 July 2019 - 11:48 AM

View Posterp, on 08 July 2019 - 11:31 AM, said:

What a pickle this puts the left in. They love big government, but when it affects their precious illegals, not so much. :whistling:

Conservatives love big government if it’s in service of targeting those they dislike or are unwelcome.
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