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Posted 09 July 2019 - 07:43 AM

Big Pharma and Organized Crime — They Are More Similar Than You May Think
By Carolanne Wright
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"It is scary how many similarities there are between this [pharmaceutical] industry and the mob. The mob makes obscene amounts of money, as does this industry. The side effects of organized crime are killings and deaths, and the side effects are the same in this industry. The mob bribes politicians and others, and so does the drug industry …" ~ former Vice-President of Pfizer pharmaceuticals ¹

If you believe pharmaceutical corporations hold the health of the general public in high regard, it's time to reconsider. The industry is filled with examples of wrongful death, extortion, fraud, corruption, obstruction of justice, embezzlement, fake journals, harassment and hit lists that would make even the most hardened Mafia godfather blush. Big Pharma has been fined billions by the U.S. Department of Justice, but these enormous fines don't curb the corruption, it's just looked upon as "the cost of doing business," similar to paying the utilities.

As a physician and researcher, Peter C Gøtzsche has firsthand experience with the criminality behind the pharmaceutical industry — and subsequently exposed the massive fraud in "Deadly Medicines and Organized Crime: How Big Pharma Has Corrupted Healthcare."

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Dr. Gøtzsche has an impressive clinical background, as noted by The Nordic Cochrane Center — a not-for-profit organization that produces credible, accessible health information that is free from commercial sponsorship and other conflicts of interest:

Professor Peter C Gøtzsche graduated as a Master of Science in biology and chemistry in 1974 and as a physician 1984. He is a specialist in internal medicine; worked with clinical trials and regulatory affairs in the drug industry 1975-1983, and at hospitals in Copenhagen 1984-95. With about 80 others, he helped start The Cochrane Collaboration in 1993 with the founder, Sir Iain Chalmers, and established The Nordic Cochrane Centre the same year. He became professor of Clinical Research Design and Analysis in 2010 at the University of Copenhagen.

Peter has published more than 70 papers in "the big five" (BMJ, Lancet, JAMA, Ann Intern Med and N Engl J Med) and his scientific works have been cited over 15,000 times. Peter is also author of:

  • Deadly Psychiatry and Organized Denial (to appear in September 2015)
  • Deadly Medicines and Organized Crime: How Big Pharma Has Corrupted Healthcare (2013)
  • Mammography Screening: Truth, Lies and Controversy (2012)
  • Rational Diagnosis and Treatment: Evidence-Based Clinical Decision-Making (2007)

A large part of Dr. Gøtzsche's academic career has focused on bias, trials and evidence synthesis.

In "Deadly Medicines and Organized Crime," Gøtzsche reveals the corruption behind exorbitant prices for branded drugs, bringing attention to the fact that drugs are not expensive because of development costs, but because of the political lobbying, marketing and excess profit taking. He also points out many trials are nothing more than smoke and mirrors, where pharmaceutical companies organize research in such a way that the best populations and comparison groups are selected for the very reason that they support the preferred outcome of the company; they control data and do analyses in-house and hire professional writers to write the papers. The pharmaceutical companies then cherry pick the results to suit their marketing needs, instead of what's in the best interest of patients. Many times, academics are paid to be listed as contributors to the study, yet in reality, they had very little input and cannot substantiate the data. According to Gøtzsche, "The 'best' drugs may simply be those with the most shamelessly biased data."

Moreover, Gøtzsche drives home the truth that pharmaceuticals are just plain dangerous for a variety of reasons:

"Our prescription drugs are the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer in the United States and Europe. Around half of those who die have taken their drugs correctly; the other half die because of errors, such as too high a dose or use of a drug despite contraindications. Our drug agencies are not particularly helpful, as they rely on fake fixes, which are a long list of warnings, precautions, and contraindications for each drug, although they know that no doctor can possibly master all of these. Major reasons for the many drug deaths are impotent drug regulation, widespread crime that includes corruption of the scientific evidence about drugs and bribery of doctors, and lies in drug marketing, which is as harmful as tobacco marketing and, therefore, should be banned. We should take far fewer drugs, and patients should carefully study the package inserts of the drugs their doctors prescribe for them and independent information sources about drugs such as Cochrane reviews, which will make it easier for them to say "no thanks"."²

Before you shrug-off Gøtzsche's argument as simply one man's view on a complex issue, consider pharmaceutical giant Merck's tainted history.

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Posted 09 July 2019 - 10:12 AM

Nobody is forced to take drugs. When you have an illness, you go to the doctor and they prescribe a medicine that CAN help your ailment. Any adult that doesn't realize that medicines have side effects is probably voting democrat forever. We all have to weigh the risk versus the reward. Is this drug that will make it easier to go the bathroom worth it if it causes me to have all these side effects........or should I possibly alter my dietary intake and drink 15 cups of water per day?

With cancer, should you take chemotherapy or should you do alternative therapy?

The pharmaceutical industry has far greater positives than it does negatives.........if used appropriately. Eating a natural healthy diet also has far greater positives, but you do need to treat yourself once in awhile (as I finish drinking a McD's Coca Cola).



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Posted 09 July 2019 - 04:00 PM

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Posted 09 July 2019 - 04:20 PM

View PostDutch13, on 09 July 2019 - 10:12 AM, said:

Nobody is forced to take drugs. When you have an illness, you go to the doctor and they prescribe a medicine that CAN help your ailment. Any adult that doesn't realize that medicines have side effects is probably voting democrat forever. We all have to weigh the risk versus the reward. Is this drug that will make it easier to go the bathroom worth it if it causes me to have all these side effects........or should I possibly alter my dietary intake and drink 15 cups of water per day?

With cancer, should you take chemotherapy or should you do alternative therapy?

The pharmaceutical industry has far greater positives than it does negatives.........if used appropriately. Eating a natural healthy diet also has far greater positives, but you do need to treat yourself once in awhile (as I finish drinking a McD's Coca Cola).

You are exactly right. For many of us, our health relies on "Big Pharma" to stay alive. It's not all opioid pain killers or drugs that can be avoided because you are eating drinking soy milk and eating granola. I also have news for people out there.



Prepare for a shock.





Most businesses are in business for the profit. I know. I know. It's a big surprise. I also know that profits are bad and nobody else works for money. So I guess "Big Phara" shouldn't either, right?

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Posted 09 July 2019 - 04:25 PM

View PostMTP Reggie, on 09 July 2019 - 04:00 PM, said:

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Exactly. I always laugh at the end of those TV commercials for some drug that has one specific (allegedly) "positive" use, followed by the entire second half of the commercial listing all the negatives:

"May cause headaches, indigestion, constipation, cold sores, pimples, bad breath, hair loss. Do not use while driving or operating machinery. Do not take if you are pregnant or planning to get pregnant. Do not take if you are already taking ______ or _______ or _______. Do not take if you have a family history of ______ or _______. (and on and on and on...)"

And the funniest one of all: "Do not take 'Dammitol' if you are allergic to 'Dammitol'." Really? Ya think? Maybe you shouldn't deliberately take something you're allergic to? Golly, who'd'a thunk it?

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Posted 09 July 2019 - 06:05 PM

View PostMontyPython, on 09 July 2019 - 04:25 PM, said:

And the funniest one of all: "Do not take 'Dammitol' if you are allergic to 'Dammitol'." Really? Ya think? Maybe you shouldn't deliberately take something you're allergic to? Golly, who'd'a thunk it?

:lol:


I like the one for a prominent sleep aid that warns, "May cause drowsiness". :blink:
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Posted 09 July 2019 - 06:27 PM

View PostSARGE, on 09 July 2019 - 06:05 PM, said:

I like the one for a prominent sleep aid that warns, "May cause drowsiness". :blink:


Yeah, LOLOLOLOL, that's good one. A sleep aid "may" cause drowsiness? That's all? "May"? It damn well better cause drowsiness!

There's another that lists both constipation and diarrhea as likely side-effects. Sheesh, talk about a wide range of negative possibilities.

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Posted 10 July 2019 - 01:02 PM

View PostMontyPython, on 09 July 2019 - 06:27 PM, said:

Yeah, LOLOLOLOL, that's good one. A sleep aid "may" cause drowsiness? That's all? "May"? It damn well better cause drowsiness!

There's another that lists both constipation and diarrhea as likely side-effects. Sheesh, talk about a wide range of negative possibilities.

:wacko:


Let's not forget the one that's supposed to be for depression but may cause suicidal thoughts.

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Posted 10 July 2019 - 02:08 PM

I love the headache meds that list headaches as a side effect. Huh? :hairpull:
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Posted 10 July 2019 - 02:25 PM

View Postoki, on 10 July 2019 - 01:02 PM, said:

Let's not forget the one that's supposed to be for depression but may cause suicidal thoughts.

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View PostSeverian, on 10 July 2019 - 02:08 PM, said:

I love the headache meds that list headaches as a side effect. Huh? :hairpull:


Yep and Yeppers!

Listening to those warnings at the end of "medicine" commercials can be hilarious.

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Posted 10 July 2019 - 02:38 PM

View Postoki, on 10 July 2019 - 01:02 PM, said:

Let's not forget the one that's supposed to be for depression but may cause suicidal thoughts.

Oki


It's not just "suicidal thoughts". It's "suicidal thoughts or actions".
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Posted 10 July 2019 - 03:23 PM

No one is forced to take medications? Really? Are vaccinations to send your kid to school voluntary everywhere? Of course, if you are an illegal, you won't be required to get one - don't want to seem discriminatory now do we? (notice the recent upswing in diseases that were rarely seen or heard of not too long ago?)

Are military folk (or their kids) allowed to just opt out of vaccinations?

I've always wondered what would happen if an actual CURE for a disease was discovered (like cancer) would the guys that make billions off the treatment of that disease ever allow it to come to market? Doesn't seem likely. I know that they are a business, and are there to make $$, but when the $$ takes precedence over lives, there is a BIG problem there.
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Posted 10 July 2019 - 03:42 PM

View PostMontyPython, on 10 July 2019 - 02:25 PM, said:

Yep and Yeppers!

Listening to those warnings at the end of "medicine" commercials can be hilarious.

:lol:


Must be some good stuff when anti depressant/happy pills make you want to commit suicide.

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Posted 10 July 2019 - 03:44 PM

View PostTikk, on 10 July 2019 - 02:38 PM, said:

It's not just "suicidal thoughts". It's "suicidal thoughts or actions".


...or 'homicidal thoughts or actions'?

Never hear that on the warnings though.

How many mass shootings could be connected to prescription medication side effects?
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Posted 10 July 2019 - 03:45 PM

View PostTikk, on 10 July 2019 - 02:38 PM, said:

It's not just "suicidal thoughts". It's "suicidal thoughts or actions".


Unreal, although like many I and numerous family members would not be here without modern medicine INCLUDING THE RESULTS OF BIG PHARMA, it's also true that un needed and even dangerous meds have become an industry so large and so controlling that no one in Congress or Media dare upset it.

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Posted 10 July 2019 - 03:55 PM

View PostSARGE, on 10 July 2019 - 03:44 PM, said:

...or 'homicidal thoughts or actions'?

Never hear that on the warnings though.

How many mass shootings could be connected to prescription medication side effects?



Damn near all of em'.

https://www.ammoland.../#axzz3JdXQTKs6

Funny how we can find out how many rounds fired, people killed, weapons used but be damned if the MSM or Feds will tell us what meds they where prescribed.
If these cretins truly cared about the problem then ALL INFO WOULD BE RELEASED. Then again, just watch an hour or two of TV, especially prime time and you'll notice ads for various 'meds' is a huge business. Last thing these sell outs will EVER do is bite the hand that feeds them.

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Posted 10 July 2019 - 04:10 PM

View PostASE, on 10 July 2019 - 03:23 PM, said:

No one is forced to take medications? Really? Are vaccinations to send your kid to school voluntary everywhere? Of course, if you are an illegal, you won't be required to get one - don't want to seem discriminatory now do we? (notice the recent upswing in diseases that were rarely seen or heard of not too long ago?)

Are military folk (or their kids) allowed to just opt out of vaccinations?

I've always wondered what would happen if an actual CURE for a disease was discovered (like cancer) would the guys that make billions off the treatment of that disease ever allow it to come to market? Doesn't seem likely. I know that they are a business, and are there to make $$, but when the $$ takes precedence over lives, there is a BIG problem there.


Service members, no you don't have a choice. Don't want to take the shots, then the most you can hope for is a half way decent Discharge. Dependents, not sure, but you probably would end up getting investigated for neglect. For anyone who thinks our government wouldn't use Mil Members as Guinea Pigs or force them to take untested, un proven or dangerous stuff all you need do is look at the Anthrax Vaccines of the 90's.

We where told it was safe, effective and proven. Utter B.S.

When it came out that the company who produced it had been shut down numerous times for health code violations and given waivers BY THE FEDS just to produce this poison we where then 'assured' that what we received was safe, that we received vaccines which where a okay.
Then it came out their where no long term studies, especially in regards to woman and how it could affect a fetus.

Oh yeah, report able side effects. They where only report-able if you missed a day or more of work. So tenderness, dollar size(coin) swelling ,night sweats, chronic fatigue, joint pain, fever, rash, even nausea where not 'report able' because if you showed up to work in the days after it was all good. Then it came out the formula and 'long term' studies where from Veterinarians who took it as it was largely meant and used against Cattle Anthrax, not weaponized versions. Probably the most disgusting thing that came out was the company Bio Port(if I remember right) was a nice healthy campaign contributor to either the Gov (at that time) of Michigan(which is where they were located) or the Clintons themselves. Amazing how that works. That's the belief as to the reason why the waivers happened.

I am of the mindset of informed choice, learn the possible side effects, look at the risks of not taking and taking and weigh them.
IE Guardasill... possible side effect? Guillian Bare Syndrome, as having a SIS in law who did get HPV and having experience with GBS the former is a hell of a lot nicer(at least if caught early). Plus, HPV is not something you will get by casual contact. Not downplaying HPV or Cervical Cancer, just saying that if caught early it's a hell of a lot easier to deal with than GBS.


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Posted 10 July 2019 - 04:34 PM

View PostDutch13, on 09 July 2019 - 10:12 AM, said:

Nobody is forced to take drugs. When you have an illness, you go to the doctor and they prescribe a medicine that CAN help your ailment. Any adult that doesn't realize that medicines have side effects is probably voting democrat forever. We all have to weigh the risk versus the reward. Is this drug that will make it easier to go the bathroom worth it if it causes me to have all these side effects........or should I possibly alter my dietary intake and drink 15 cups of water per day?

With cancer, should you take chemotherapy or should you do alternative therapy?

The pharmaceutical industry has far greater positives than it does negatives.........if used appropriately. Eating a natural healthy diet also has far greater positives, but you do need to treat yourself once in awhile (as I finish drinking a McD's Coca Cola).

You missed the point.

This is about the industry being criminal thugs in strong arming and threatening people to cover up the known harms caused by their products that they are fully aware of.

I had just learned just a few moments ago today (from a letter) that the blood pressure medicine that my mother was taking had very likely caused her terminal cancer and the proof of it it was deliberately covered up by her doctors at the request of the manufacturer as they were caught paying out kickbacks to doctors to prescribe it and now to cover it up. It was contaminated by a known carcinogen called NDMA and the makers knew about it since 2012. My mother died 4 years ago on July 13th from cancer in her intestines, ovaries and lung. It was a very fast spreading form of cancer and all of the symptoms and tests point right to this drug as the cause.

Now that's both criminal and a conspiracy.

Now my family has to consider what to do about it, whether or not to join the class action lawsuit or not?

Just when we had put it all behind us, now this happened today. It pisses me off into a rage knowing that this was likely intentionally covered up and according to the letter we had received it was and there were plenty of others besides my mother that this has happened to.

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Posted 10 July 2019 - 04:36 PM

View PostASE, on 10 July 2019 - 03:23 PM, said:

No one is forced to take medications? Really? Are vaccinations to send your kid to school voluntary everywhere? Of course, if you are an illegal, you won't be required to get one - don't want to seem discriminatory now do we? (notice the recent upswing in diseases that were rarely seen or heard of not too long ago?)

Are military folk (or their kids) allowed to just opt out of vaccinations?

I've always wondered what would happen if an actual CURE for a disease was discovered (like cancer) would the guys that make billions off the treatment of that disease ever allow it to come to market? Doesn't seem likely. I know that they are a business, and are there to make $$, but when the $$ takes precedence over lives, there is a BIG problem there.

^THIS. ^ :exactly:

Lots of people are very naive when it comes to these subjects.
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Posted 10 July 2019 - 05:06 PM

View PostASE, on 10 July 2019 - 03:23 PM, said:

No one is forced to take medications? Really? Are vaccinations to send your kid to school voluntary everywhere? Of course, if you are an illegal, you won't be required to get one - don't want to seem discriminatory now do we? (notice the recent upswing in diseases that were rarely seen or heard of not too long ago?)

Are military folk (or their kids) allowed to just opt out of vaccinations?

I've always wondered what would happen if an actual CURE for a disease was discovered (like cancer) would the guys that make billions off the treatment of that disease ever allow it to come to market? Doesn't seem likely. I know that they are a business, and are there to make $$, but when the $$ takes precedence over lives, there is a BIG problem there.


If you want your kids in public school (or a private one that requires it) you have to get them vaccinated. Illegal alien students are exempt from vaccinations? What school systems have that policy? Just curious...
There are some with religious exemptions, although this is changing in NY.

If you don't want them vaccinated then home school.
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