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#1 User is offline   MTP Reggie 

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Posted 09 July 2019 - 04:35 PM

Violent Antifa Has Members Arming Themselves
Posted at 12:00 pm on July 8, 2019
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Antifa is a problem in this country. Calling themselves "antifascists," the group more closely resembles Hitler's Brownshirts than any anti-fascist movement I've ever seen. They're quick to resort to violence and have since before the 2016 election. They've done everything from setting fires at their colleges over speakers to hitting people with bike locks. They've weaponized milkshakes and beaten journalists.

They're already a problem.

The thing is, they're also an armed problem.

Liberals are notoriously loath to take their own side in a fight. But their reticence may well be changing in an age of vigilante, white nationalist terror—openly condoned and supported by an incumbent president who has suggested that his armed devotees won't stand for his removal from office. Increasingly, the antifa left is arguing—and training—in response. They are worried not only about an armed reckoning following a contested election, but also about rising violence from the paramilitaries loyal to President Donald Trump.



Such paranoid fantasies may be familiar to heavy consumers of YouTube and Reddit, but watching them transposed on to the structures of governance is a novelty. As a result, many leftists and even some liberals are beginning to reconsider their feelings about firearms, joining a loose amalgamation of gun groups, from John Brown Gun Clubs (which take their name from the abolitionist) to the Pink Pistols (an LGBTQ group), Liberal Gun Club, and Socialist Rifle Association. Some of these organizations are moderate and traditionalist, others radical and revolutionary. But all share one implicit goal: to normalize firearms ownership and training among liberals. Some of their members hope such efforts will at least make Republicans think twice before attempting a massacre.

OK, I'm going to stop here to point and laugh at the inclusion of the Pink Pistols.

The truth is that the Pink Pistols has a history of defending the Second Amendment, and yes, some of their members are probably liberal. Many of their members aren't, though, and I know that for a fact.

Methinks the writer just looked up LGBT gun groups and assumed that they have to be liberal because LGBT folks can't be conservative or libertarian.

Anyway, back to Antifa gearing up:

Whether that approach will inflame political violence—especially in hot spots like the Pacific Northwest—or deter it remains uncertain. In April, Shea spoke at an "open carry" rally in Olympia, which drew hundreds of people, many armed with AR-15s and shotguns. About ten members of the Puget Sound John Brown Gun Club were also there, handing out flyers mocking Shea and another speaker, Joey Gibson of Patriot Prayer, who, they said, "attracted and embraced" rapists, pedophiles, and skinheads. "Want to defend your community from people like Matt Shea?" one flyer asked. At the moment, the Puget Sound JBGC, which was founded less than four months after Trump took office, has around 30 active members. But its firearms safety and marksmanship workshops fill up faster every time the club hosts them. Full members undergo lengthy vetting, but anyone can come learn how guns work, what the parts are, and how to handle them safely, before going to the range and learning to shoot. "We're talking about white liberals, mostly women, who are like 'let's get this class going,'" the club's founder, Duke Aaron, said. "Two years ago these people would be like 'Guns? This is terrible.' That's not the reaction now."

Now, let me be clear here. These people have as much a right as I do to arm themselves. Further, if they're worried about the United States becoming a totalitarian state, they probably should train up and be ready to fight.

Where I have a problem is that these are also people who see fascists around every corner and are far too willing to resort to violence. The way someone once described it was as a knob versus a switch. People on the Left are like a knob, slowly increasing the violence, the severity increasing along the way. It starts with riots and ends with shooting.

People on the Right, by contrast, are a switch. They're perfectly peaceful until they get pushed too far, then the switch flips, and it's time for the bugaloo.

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Posted 09 July 2019 - 04:51 PM

This is not going to end well
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Posted 09 July 2019 - 05:13 PM

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The truth is that the Pink Pistols has a history of defending the Second Amendment, and yes, some of their members are probably liberal. Many of their members aren't, though, and I know that for a fact.

Methinks the writer just looked up LGBT gun groups and assumed that they have to be liberal because LGBT folks can't be conservative or libertarian.


:yeahthat:

As for how organized antifa is, look at the membership: bourgeoisie, trust fund babies, college students living on loans, and the paid agitators who tweet them.


John Brown was organized. So was Imperial Japan. As was Osama bin Laden and the Taliban. Barack 0bama was a "community organizer. They all believed but we're not built to support a Thousand Year Empire.
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Posted 09 July 2019 - 05:27 PM

Will we see the feds zealously going after these armed Antifa groups like they did to law abiding organized citizen militias in most every state?

My bet is "NO", because these Antifa paid professional terrorists are doing the deep state's bidding.
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Posted 09 July 2019 - 09:07 PM

View Postfirecoco, on 09 July 2019 - 04:51 PM, said:

This is not going to end well


for them

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Posted 10 July 2019 - 09:10 AM

Do these people really know or realize who they'd be fighting? Most veterans would be against them, most LEO's. And not to sound like a keyboard commando, the lifelong hunter, and gun enthusiast, such as myself, who takes their self defense seriously for many years, who has on several occasions, have been taught tactics from people who also train law enforcement. The one's who do reloading drills and dry firing drills at least once a month. The one's who have studied practical self defense and other fighting skills with or without weapons.
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Posted 10 July 2019 - 07:56 PM

 Italian Biker, on 10 July 2019 - 09:10 AM, said:

Do these people really know or realize who they'd be fighting? Most veterans would be against them, most LEO's. And not to sound like a keyboard commando, the lifelong hunter, and gun enthusiast, such as myself, who takes their self defense seriously for many years, who has on several occasions, have been taught tactics from people who also train law enforcement. The one's who do reloading drills and dry firing drills at least once a month. The one's who have studied practical self defense and other fighting skills with or without weapons.

Yeah, it will literally be a walk in a park.
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 08:32 AM

View PostItalian Biker, on 10 July 2019 - 09:10 AM, said:

Do these people really know or realize who they'd be fighting? Most veterans would be against them, most LEO's. And not to sound like a keyboard commando, the lifelong hunter, and gun enthusiast, such as myself, who takes their self defense seriously for many years, who has on several occasions, have been taught tactics from people who also train law enforcement. The one's who do reloading drills and dry firing drills at least once a month. The one's who have studied practical self defense and other fighting skills with or without weapons.




I think some do, but they are counting on the same people who are experienced and know how to use a firearm to be passive. Not a winning proposition. If someone can pick a deer of at 100 yards+ or even 30 in a forest, then a little Antifa Punk(even at 100 yards) in the open is nothing. Much less they are not used and have not had the training or experience to go at someone 1 on 1. Every time they try this they get their asses handed to them. It's awful to think, but I do believe it's only a matter of time until they pick the wrong city or group and it will get very very ugly(for them).

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Posted 11 July 2019 - 09:03 AM

 firecoco, on 09 July 2019 - 04:51 PM, said:

This is not going to end well


They are their own worst enemy.
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 09:10 AM

View Postfirecoco, on 09 July 2019 - 04:51 PM, said:

This is not going to end well

I wonder when they will turn on each other. Because they will.
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 09:50 AM

 Hieronymous, on 11 July 2019 - 09:10 AM, said:

I wonder when they will turn on each other. Because they will.

They will do so and the democrat media will try to pretend they didn’t so they’ll take an anecdote from 1997 and .... Truuuuummmmmp!
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 11:13 AM

View Postzurg, on 10 July 2019 - 07:56 PM, said:

Yeah, it will literally be a walk in a park.


:hairpull: :hairpull: :hairpull:

Aaaarrrrgggghhhh

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Posted 11 July 2019 - 11:24 AM

If someone is wearing a mask to hide their identity, then they know what they are doing is wrong and don’t want to get identified. Patriots who stand up for the rights of citizens of this country don’t wear masks because they are proud of their fight and know they are on the right side. That’s the difference. Those that aren’t afraid to hide their identity in a fight are the one’s they should be afraid of. Literally (added for Monty, LOL).
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 11:37 AM

View Postjohnnybravo, on 11 July 2019 - 11:24 AM, said:

...Literally (added for Monty, LOL).


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Posted 11 July 2019 - 11:49 AM

 MontyPython, on 11 July 2019 - 11:13 AM, said:

:hairpull: :hairpull: :hairpull:

Aaaarrrrgggghhhh

:hairpull: :hairpull: :hairpull:

I knew it!

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Posted 11 July 2019 - 02:34 PM

View PostMontyPython, on 11 July 2019 - 11:13 AM, said:

:hairpull: :hairpull: :hairpull:

Aaaarrrrgggghhhh

:hairpull: :hairpull: :hairpull:



That was my response also.

Going into an armed confrontation with that attitude, and false bravado, will get you dead in a hurry.
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Posted 11 July 2019 - 07:16 PM

View Postoki, on 11 July 2019 - 08:32 AM, said:

I think some do, but they are counting on the same people who are experienced and know how to use a firearm to be passive. Not a winning proposition. If someone can pick a deer of at 100 yards+ or even 30 in a forest, then a little Antifa Punk(even at 100 yards) in the open is nothing. Much less they are not used and have not had the training or experience to go at someone 1 on 1. Every time they try this they get their asses handed to them. It's awful to think, but I do believe it's only a matter of time until they pick the wrong city or group and it will get very very ugly(for them).

Oki

Though I would never attempt a shot at a deer over 40 yards with my bow, I do practice 60 yard shots and I'm at four to six inch groups at that distance. So think of what I can do with an AR. Plus, being a hunter, I know how to sneak and be quiet. I can get close enough to jam my arrow up their butts by hand.
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Posted 12 July 2019 - 11:52 AM

View PostItalian Biker, on 11 July 2019 - 07:16 PM, said:

Though I would never attempt a shot at a deer over 40 yards with my bow, I do practice 60 yard shots and I'm at four to six inch groups at that distance. So think of what I can do with an AR. Plus, being a hunter, I know how to sneak and be quiet. I can get close enough to jam my arrow up their butts by hand.


Don't waste a good arrow like that, you'd never want to use it hunting... no wild animal deserves to die from toxic shock.
These fools have no idea the can of whoop ass they will open. The idea that simply having a firearm and knowing how to squeeze the trigger is proof of their stupidity, but that's okay SHOULD they try and start something it will only make it all the easier for those who believe in law, order and decency.

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