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  Posted 27 July 2019 - 05:11 PM

Jonah Goldberg Smears Patriotic America First Committee





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Written by Steve Byas
July 26, 2019


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It has been almost eight decades since the United States was plunged into the Second World War with the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor and other American possessions on December 7, 1941, and America's neoconservatives still use that terrible day in U.S. history to smear the America First Committee, in order to smear any opponent of their continuing hair-trigger tendency to send American soldiers off to war.

Jonah Goldberg, a long-time writer for National Review magazine, a national columnist for the Los Angeles Times, and a prominent "Never Trumper," penned yet another of his anti-Trump syndicated columns this week.

In this particular piece, Goldberg condemned President Donald Trump's frequent use of the phrase "America First," tying it to the dishonest and historically inaccurate continued smearing of those patriots who founded the America First Committee (AFC). The AFC was founded in an effort to keep the country out of the Second World War. Goldberg opined that Trump probably did not know just how bad the AFC was — that he was just ignorant of the history, in using the phrase of America First.

Goldberg wrote, "When Trump adopted the slogan "America First," many observers were dismayed because of the sinister historical connotations of the phrase. It was the rallying cry of isolationists … who opposed intervening in World War II."

Probably no term infuriates the globalists in such organizations as the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and such neoconservatives as William Kristol and Jonah Goldberg as "America First." As he said himself, Goldberg sees America First as a sinister phrase.

Following the First World War, Americans were disenchanted with President Woodrow Wilson's war to "end all wars," and to "make the world safe for democracy." They knew those lofty goals had not been achieved, and that over 100,000 American soldiers had died on the battlefields of Europe. As a result of that war, various totalitarian systems came to power — the National Socialists of Adolf Hitler in Germany, the fascists in Italy, and the communists in Russia.

Americans — by large margins — wanted no more of the periodic and asinine wars of Europe.

So when yet another war broke out in Europe in 1939, a very large number of Americans wanted to sit this one out. Eventually, an organization — the America First Committee — was formed to keep America out of the war in Europe. The organization was not some fringe group. It had 800,000 dues-paying members in 450 chapters across the country.

Among those who joined AFC included some Americans who were already famous, such as Charles Lindberg, General Robert Wood of Sears-Roebuck, and Robert McCormack of the Chicago Tribune. Walt Disney was a member. So were future presidents John Kennedy and Gerald Ford. When Kennedy donated $100 to the AFC, he included a note: "What you are doing is vital."

What was "sinister" about the AFC? Goldberg asserts that the phrase "America First" was the "rallying cry of the isolationists" who opposed intervening in World War II.

This is typical of neoconservatives such as Goldberg. To them, it is always 1938, and we are always needing to sacrifice young soldiers to stop the latest Hitler. And the AFC's sin, that made it "sinister," in Goldberg's warped universe, was desiring to keep America out of a war.



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Posted 27 July 2019 - 07:04 PM

I have very little use, damn near zero in fact, for anyone who two plus years into this President's term continues to espouse the Never Trump nonsense.

I do accept that they would likely make fine single use Crash Test Dummies, but not much else.



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Posted 27 July 2019 - 07:24 PM

PRESIDENT Donald J. Trump amended his "America first" message to "America first but not alone" to placate irrational fears while staying on message. I used to be a fan of Jonah Goldberg. Not so much anymore. He's a schill for the get-along wing of the Establishment.
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Posted 27 July 2019 - 08:18 PM

View PostUSNJIMRET, on 27 July 2019 - 07:04 PM, said:

I have very little use, damn near zero in fact, for anyone who two plus years into this President's term continues to espouse the Never Trump nonsense.

I do accept that they would likely make fine single use Crash Test Dummies, but not much else.

Just looking at the courts alone, anyone who would've wanted the hildebeast in the White House has no business criticizing actual patriots. I would classify them as traitors to the country and they should be handled accordingly... :redhot:
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Posted 27 July 2019 - 11:35 PM

I hear those Washington D.C. cocktail parties can get pretty wild once the Grand Marnier and cocaine start flowing. Mr. Goldberg and other Never-Trumpers like George Will ain't about to jeopardize their standing as token "Conservatives" at all those libtard parties. After all, everyone enjoys a good laugh.
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Posted 27 July 2019 - 11:50 PM

I used to like this guy. Past tense.
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Posted 28 July 2019 - 05:00 AM

Some are of the opinion that Iran's latest shenanigans are an attempt to draw Trump into an unpopular war and make him a one term president. His use of tariffs are a much better option, even if China, North Korea, Mexico and Iran would disagree. Makes you wonder what part of that Goldberg's missing...

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Posted 28 July 2019 - 01:44 PM

Sorry but the article is so dang slanted, it's hard to take it seriously
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Posted 29 July 2019 - 12:28 PM

View PostTikk, on 28 July 2019 - 01:44 PM, said:

Sorry but the article is so dang slanted, it's hard to take it seriously

Presentation of Facts = Slanted. Please elaborate. Explain why we still have troops/military presence in South Korea (more than 60 years after the end of that "Police" action), the African Continent, throughout the Middle East and why do we still have military deployed throughout Western Europe and Japan (more than 70 years after the end of WW II). Explain why we still have troops and on-going military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan 17 years after we started that whole fiasco (that I actually supported at the time). This is what the AFC warned about and campaigned against.

America First is about getting your own house in order before committing American capital, sons, daughters, husbands and wives to military action. It's about understanding the threat to our way of life, knowing what the objectives are that define victory and then executing an actual Strategy for winning. What its not about is committing American resources first and then trying to figure it out as we go along.
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Posted 29 July 2019 - 03:27 PM

View PostWillieChuck, on 29 July 2019 - 12:28 PM, said:

Presentation of Facts = Slanted. Please elaborate.


Every name he uses has either a positive (e.g. patriotic) or negative (NeverTrumper) adjective. This is an editorial. It's an opinion piece. You either agree or disagree with the guy. I honestly don't care. But his language is off-putting to me.

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Explain why we still have troops/military presence in South Korea (more than 60 years after the end of that "Police" action), the African Continent, throughout the Middle East and why do we still have military deployed throughout Western Europe and Japan (more than 70 years after the end of WW II). Explain why we still have troops and on-going military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan 17 years after we started that whole fiasco (that I actually supported at the time)


Um, how about no.

:wtf:

I don't have to explain any of that.

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This is what the AFC warned about and campaigned against.


Of course they did. That's what they're all about. I don't have to agree or disagree with everything they do. But it certainly doesn't mean that they are right, reasonable, fair, honest, or truthful all of the time. Much like this author we're discussing.

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America First is about getting your own house in order before committing American capital, sons, daughters, husbands and wives to military action. It's about understanding the threat to our way of life, knowing what the objectives are that define victory and then executing an actual Strategy for winning. What its not about is committing American resources first and then trying to figure it out as we go along.


All of that may be true. I don't think it is. But I know when someone's trying to sell me something I don't want to buy. And this has all the hallmarks of it.




Oh and by the way. This publication is posted on a website that is the wholly owned subsidiary of the John Birch society. Do you think they will present any information that is not in line with their core beliefs?

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