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Posted 12 August 2019 - 07:09 AM

SECRETS FROM THE GRAVE Jeffrey Epstein kept 'meticulously detailed' diaries which could come back to haunt his powerful pals including Prince Andrew
Jenny Awford, US Digital Editor
11 Aug 2019, 23:58
Updated: 12 Aug 2019, 10:43

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JEFFREY Epstein kept "meticulously detailed" diaries of his friendships which could come back to haunt his powerful pals, reports claim. The billionaire paedo, who died from an apparent suicide on Saturday, was once friends with Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton and Donald Trump. He is understood to have kept a secret diary detailing his friendships with the rich and famous as an "insurance policy", according to the Mirror.

Former financier Epstein, 66, is believed to have killed himself in jail - days after being taken off suicide watch. His death came hours after a Manhattan court released a 1,200-page dossier detailing lurid abuse allegations against him. The explosive papers also named some of the world's elite leaders and politicians. They were unsealed in a legal tangle between Brit socialite Ghislaine Maxwell — Epstein's ex-lover — and Virginia Giuffre.

Ms Giuffre has alleged that she was procured by "madame" Maxwell, 57, the daughter of disgraced tycoon Robert Maxwell, as a teenage "sex slave" for Epstein. In previous court claims, she alleged she had sex Prince Andrew when she was a teen.

US court papers also alleged the Duke of York touched a woman's breast as she sat on his lap and played with a Spitting Image puppet of him. Johanna Sjoberg alleged he touched her breast in 2001 at Epstein's New York home, according to court papers. In the documents Sjoberg said: "I just remember someone suggesting a photo, and they told us to go get on the couch. And so Andrew and Virginia sat on the couch, and they put the puppet, the puppet on her lap. "And so then I sat on Andrew's lap, and I believe on my own volition, and they took the puppet's hands and put it on Virginia's breast, and so Andrew put his on mine," she said, saying it was done in a "joking manner".

Buckingham Palace has strenuously denied the allegations.

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Posted 12 August 2019 - 09:49 AM

We'll never see them. (My prediction.)
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Posted 12 August 2019 - 10:08 AM

Upon learning of his death, the diaries committed suicide by throwing themselves into an incinerator.
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Posted 12 August 2019 - 10:17 AM

View PostWag-a-Muffin (D), on 12 August 2019 - 09:49 AM, said:

We'll never see them. (My prediction.)

I agree. (I didn't find it difficult to agree, either.)!
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Posted 12 August 2019 - 10:18 AM

View PostTikk, on 12 August 2019 - 10:08 AM, said:

Upon learning of his death, the diaries committed suicide by throwing themselves into an incinerator.


They're partying with hillary's emails.
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Posted 12 August 2019 - 03:32 PM

View PostWag-a-Muffin (D), on 12 August 2019 - 09:49 AM, said:

We'll never see them. (My prediction.)

:exactly:

Yep.
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Posted 12 August 2019 - 03:36 PM

View PostTikk, on 12 August 2019 - 10:08 AM, said:

Upon learning of his death, the diaries committed suicide by throwing themselves into an incinerator.

Just like how they had to bury Osama Bin Laden at sea immediately after his "alleged death" due to a mythical Muslim tradition so to not anger the Muslims. :bs:

Much like the "magic bullet theory". :bs:

View PostMTP Reggie, on 12 August 2019 - 10:18 AM, said:

They're partying with hillary's emails.

Trying to "find the real killer" out on the links with OJ.
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Posted 12 August 2019 - 03:59 PM

His videos, photos, written records and personal diaries have all been seized in discovery and should become evidence at trial. If the criminal and civil rules are followed in trials all of this becomes public.

The question is how far certain parties will go to pollute pure justice.

It's all part of the same cultural battle across the board.
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Posted 12 August 2019 - 04:17 PM

View PostCoach, on 12 August 2019 - 03:59 PM, said:

His videos, photos, written records and personal diaries have all been seized in discovery and should become evidence at trial. If the criminal and civil rules are followed in trials all of this becomes public.

The question is how far certain parties will go to pollute pure justice.

It's all part of the same cultural battle across the board.

What trial? Dead men don’t tell tales.
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Posted 12 August 2019 - 04:17 PM

View PostRock N, on 12 August 2019 - 03:36 PM, said:

Just like how they had to bury Osama Bin Laden at sea immediately after his "alleged death" due to a mythical Muslim tradition so to not anger the Muslims. :bs:

Much like the "magic bullet theory". :bs:


Trying to "find the real killer" out on the links with OJ.



Supposedly, burial at sea breaks Muslim tradition, I am just fine with that given that Al Qaeda uses religion as a justification. Sooo... their hero didn't get a hero's burial, this may very well be an insult and in their eyes(hopefully) a one way ticket to hell.

The Magic Bullet theory... sorry but there was no magic at all. The Texas Gov wasn't sitting flat and directly in front of Kennedy, the jump seats where virtually flat to the floor and quite a bit inward. Plus, the round was hardly pristine. Doesn't prove or disprove a 2nd Gunman either way, but just that the trajectories line up.

The third one, yeah, that seems pretty odd considering O.J. has done absolutely zero to find the real killer. Then again he is quite broke and in failing health. So, if a person is to believe O.J. is in fact the one who did it or at least had a part in it then there is some karma/poetic justice in this.
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Posted 12 August 2019 - 04:19 PM

The problem is one of corroboration.
Epstein (through the diary) can make assertions. Proving them is another matter. His diary merely provides testimony that cannot be cross-examined in court.
Just sayin'. . . .


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Posted 12 August 2019 - 04:21 PM

View PostCoach, on 12 August 2019 - 03:59 PM, said:

His videos, photos, written records and personal diaries have all been seized in discovery and should become evidence at trial. If the criminal and civil rules are followed in trials all of this becomes public.

The question is how far certain parties will go to pollute pure justice.

It's all part of the same cultural battle across the board.


Keep in mind many of the people in those diaries and logs are still quite well connected. The only way that stuff won't disappear is if it not only logged but also stored in a manner where access is controlled and records of who accesses it logged as well as inspected both before and after each access. Even then it can still disapear. Records will need to be scanned and digitized asap. Lot harder to make things disappear from a server, which is also backed up then from a vault.
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Posted 12 August 2019 - 04:23 PM

View Postmjperry51, on 12 August 2019 - 04:19 PM, said:

The problem is one of corroboration.
Epstein (through the diary) can make assertions. Proving them is another matter. His diary merely provides testimony that cannot be cross-examined in court.
Just sayin'. . . .


Absolutely, a Diary with a travel record and financial records though, that right there does put a person in a place and a time though. Any savy D.A. can say and exactly why where you there again? If guilt by association is good enough for the left and Dems if it is Trump then it should be just fine if it is a leftist big wig. You know they are the party of honesty and fairness after all.
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