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  Posted 08 September 2019 - 10:43 AM

Bernie Sanders used N-word in 2015 book 'Outsider in the White House'





https://www.patriotnewsalerts.com
by Patriot News Alerts
September 7, 2019



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2020 Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders used uncensored racial epithets in his book "Outsider in the White House."

The shocking quotes were published by The Daily Caller News Foundation, which reviewed a copy of the book.

Was that really necessary?

Sanders originally wrote the book in 1997, titled "Outsider in the House" about his career in politics as a socialist, which was updated and republished in 2015.

Sanders used the uncensored N-word in both versions, according to the Caller.

In the book, Sanders wrote: [Censoring added by Patriot News Alerts]

For a hundred years, the white workers of the South were the most exploited white workers in America. They were paid the lowest wages, they endured the worst working conditions, their housing was abysmal, their kids went to the most backward schools, and very few could send their children to college. But what did they have? They were given 'n******' to hate and look down on, 'n******' who couldn't vote, drink at their water fountains, use the same bathrooms, or sit up front in the buses or movie theaters.

The Sanders campaign pushed back by pointing out that "critiquing racism is not racism." That is fair.

Nonetheless, even in a critique of racism, there is no need to include that derogatory term without censoring it.


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Posted 08 September 2019 - 11:02 AM

Meh, we've seen it before. "Some" privileged people are allowed to evolve. Sometimes without an apology. And some "nasty" people (cough cough, Kyle Kashuv, cough cough) aren't even allowed to apologize. They MUST be punished/eliminated.

So Bernie will get a pass.
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Posted 08 September 2019 - 11:16 AM

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They were given 'n******' to hate and look down on, 'n******' who couldn't vote, drink at their water fountains, use the same bathrooms, or sit up front in the buses or movie theaters.

This is dumb. He wasn't using it in a derogatory fashion. As the article admits, it's a critique of racism.

This is the same kind of dishonest attack that conservatives (and quite a few liberals) complained about last week with the supposed anti-Semitic FB posts of Trumps new policy advisor.
https://www.washingt...bor-dept-story/

Fortunately that back fired. This should too.
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Posted 08 September 2019 - 11:34 AM

View PostLadybird, on 08 September 2019 - 11:16 AM, said:

This is dumb. He wasn't using it in a derogatory fashion. As the article admits, it's a critique of racism.

This is the same kind of dishonest attack that conservatives (and quite a few liberals) complained about last week with the supposed anti-Semitic FB posts of Trumps new policy advisor.
https://www.washingt...bor-dept-story/

Fortunately that back fired. This should too.


That's your opinion. However Caucasians have been told for years that for us to use the N word is racist. No context was listed as "permitted" . . .
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Posted 08 September 2019 - 01:35 PM

View Postmjperry51, on 08 September 2019 - 11:34 AM, said:

That's your opinion. However Caucasians have been told for years that for us to use the N word is racist. No context was listed as "permitted" . . .
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Posted 08 September 2019 - 01:52 PM

 mjperry51, on 08 September 2019 - 11:34 AM, said:

That's your opinion. However Caucasians have been told for years that for us to use the N word is racist. No context was listed as "permitted" . . .
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So youíre no different than those who scream racism when it is unjustified.
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Posted 08 September 2019 - 02:41 PM

 Ladybird, on 08 September 2019 - 11:16 AM, said:

This is dumb. He wasn't using it in a derogatory fashion. As the article admits, it's a critique of racism.

This is the same kind of dishonest attack that conservatives (and quite a few liberals) complained about last week with the supposed anti-Semitic FB posts of Trumps new policy advisor.
https://www.washingt...bor-dept-story/

Fortunately that back fired. This should too.

So why did he have to use that word? Why couldnít he just say Blacks?
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Posted 08 September 2019 - 03:11 PM

 Ladybird, on 08 September 2019 - 01:52 PM, said:

So youíre no different than those who scream racism when it is unjustified.

Did you know that you can still support Bernie and vote for him even after you admit that there should be no double standard applied here?
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Posted 08 September 2019 - 04:10 PM

 Ladybird, on 08 September 2019 - 01:52 PM, said:

So youíre no different than those who scream racism when it is unjustified.

So thatís an acceptable word to use if itís not in a demeaning manner? Can you give me some examples Iím white and not racist. So I Ben asked at work have you seen Tom? Can I respond oh heís that <censored> over there. I mean he m not judging or demeaning him and meant nothing but a discription. In short when is it acceptable to use? I donít think it ever is for the right, the left, for a black or for a white person. But you obviously think thereís times I can use it being white. Do you have some examples so I donít mess this up and offend someone or is it reserved for white democrats. That would make sense since as democrats they have a tied history to the kkk I donít. Is it one of those shared history things or can I use it?
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Posted 08 September 2019 - 05:47 PM

View Posterp, on 08 September 2019 - 02:41 PM, said:

So why did he have to use that word? Why couldnít he just say Blacks?


Because in the context of writing a first person voice of an anti black racist, the word most likely to be used is the n-word.
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Posted 08 September 2019 - 06:05 PM

View PostLadybird, on 08 September 2019 - 01:52 PM, said:

So youíre no different than those who scream racism when it is unjustified.

BS. he is correct, and you know it
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Posted 08 September 2019 - 06:25 PM

 Ladybird, on 08 September 2019 - 01:52 PM, said:

So youíre no different than those who scream racism when it is unjustified.

His point sailed right over your weave. Typical. and sad.
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Posted 08 September 2019 - 06:30 PM

View PostLadybird, on 08 September 2019 - 11:16 AM, said:

This is dumb. He wasn't using it in a derogatory fashion. As the article admits, it's a critique of racism.

This is the same kind of dishonest attack that conservatives (and quite a few liberals) complained about last week with the supposed anti-Semitic FB posts of Trumps new policy advisor.
https://www.washingt...bor-dept-story/

Fortunately that back fired. This should too.

View Postmjperry51, on 08 September 2019 - 11:34 AM, said:

That's your opinion. However Caucasians have been told for years that for us to use the N word is racist. No context was listed as "permitted" . . .
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"No context is permitted"??? That's just as wrong too, and likely perpetuated by white liberals. There IS a place for using ANY word in context, and there's no need to expurgate classic literature because of it.

Yeah, sure, maybe edit new editions of Tom Sawyer to say "Negro Jim" if that's what it takes to keep it in libraries. But there's no need to burn prior editions at 451į Fahrenheit over it.


Me? No, I don't use the N-word except to quote it. But I'm not afraid of quoting it in proper context.

Heck, use me as an example. German-ish background. As a kid, on the "Mean streets" of east Toledo OH. Specifically the Hungarian section known as (in the '60s) "HunkyTown" which was meant as a slur not just against specifically Hungarians but against "foreigners" in general (I'm Moravian, which would be Czech not Hungarian on today's maps, but I DO like a good hot dog from Tony Packos or a good "stuffed cabbage" from The Budapest (RIP, the two sisters).

Yes, Hunky at the time was meant as a slur, in a "go back to where you came from" sort of way.

"Go back to where I came from?" LOL, you mean the US military base on US soil where I was born to an American father and a French-Spanish-American mother?


Go ahead, call me a Kraut. Or a Hun. Or a Hun'gy (Hunky) even. I'm not going to start sucking my thumb or wetting the bed over it.

ON THE OTHER HAND
, Maybe THIS is my retirement plan: There WAS this time at a Howard Johnson's in South Carolina where the waitress said, "Would you like a cup of coffee, Hun?". I am downright offended, I tell you.


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Posted 08 September 2019 - 06:37 PM

 Ladybird, on 08 September 2019 - 11:16 AM, said:

This is dumb. He wasn't using it in a derogatory fashion. As the article admits, it's a critique of racism.

This is the same kind of dishonest attack that conservatives (and quite a few liberals) complained about last week with the supposed anti-Semitic FB posts of Trumps new policy advisor.
https://www.washingt...bor-dept-story/

Fortunately that back fired. This should too.


Wait, wait, wait...

Are you talking that Leif Olson episode? If so, are you seriously blaming Conservatives?
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Posted 08 September 2019 - 06:40 PM

Inoffensive, but I'm not the one making up the ever changing rules. Just imagine if this was Trump's "critique of racism", though... oh, wait, we already know what the reaction would be.
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Posted 08 September 2019 - 06:45 PM

 Ladybird, on 08 September 2019 - 05:47 PM, said:

Because in the context of writing a first person voice of an anti black racist, the word most likely to be used is the n-word.

So as white people we can use that word only in writing? Iím still trying to understand where itís acceptable to you. So can I leave a note for the delivery guy at work, if your looking for Tom heís the 3rd office on the left the <censored>? I mean itís just written and I mean no harm. Or do I have to be writing about the 50-60s I grew up in the Midwest poor it was us and the <censored>s? Or is it only acceptable if Iím a democrat and a member of a shared racist history? As Iíve asked when is that word ok for anyone or is it just ok for Biden? Then whatís the difference,,, hey if your black can I just say Iím responding to that <censored> woman? I donít mean anything other then a description. So please when is it ok for anyone to say. I understand the democrats lov d an example x clan leader and senator. Is that it I get a pass if I join your party? Hypocrisy much?

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Posted 08 September 2019 - 06:45 PM

 Ladybird, on 08 September 2019 - 05:47 PM, said:

Because in the context of writing a first person voice of an anti black racist, the word most likely to be used is the n-word.

How did Sanders get this privilege, I wonder?
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Posted 08 September 2019 - 06:49 PM

View PostGrimV, on 08 September 2019 - 06:37 PM, said:

Wait, wait, wait...

Are you talking that Leif Olson episode? If so, are you seriously blaming Conservatives?

She's not blaming conservatives. She's saying they were complaining about a dishonest smear attack against Olson.
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Posted 08 September 2019 - 06:50 PM

Iím sure any minute weíll have an explanation when crackers can use the n word acceptably and how itís not offensive. Iíll wait
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Posted 08 September 2019 - 07:03 PM

 grimreefer, on 08 September 2019 - 06:49 PM, said:

She's not blaming conservatives. She's saying they were complaining about a dishonest smear attack against Olson.


Mea Culpa.

Read it wrong.
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