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  Posted 02 October 2019 - 11:40 PM

Trump's Transparency Is Driving The Left Nuts (And Messing Up Their Impeachment Dreams)

Fox News
By Jason Chaffetz
2 October 2019

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He wasn't supposed to release the transcripts. Or the whistleblower report. He was expected to do what any president would have done – what President Obama always did. Hide the evidence.

As House Democrats rolled out their latest meticulously choreographed, perfectly timed, and broadly coordinated attack on President Trump, they weren't counting on the president's unprecedented transparency. Nobody releases a transcript of calls between heads of state. But Donald Trump did.

In the process, he screwed up the narrative. Again.

As scripted, the president was intended to (rightly) claim executive privilege and withhold the written notes of his July 25 conversation with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky. That would allow House Democrats to ramp up speculation about what the president was hiding.

If that sounds familiar, it should. It's the opening move in the same script deployed against Justice Kavanaugh. Democrats would ask for documents they knew were privileged, then Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer would send out a tweet asking, "What is he hiding?" when the documents weren't produced.

We saw it again with the Mueller investigation. For example, when Intelligence Committee Democrats wanted to release a memo critical of the president – one which happened to include sensitive national security information – the president had to delay while the memo was redacted.

Schumer's response? A tweet. "Millions of Americans are asking one simple question: what is he hiding?” Nothing, apparently. The president soon cleared the memo for release.

Having been on the House Oversight Committee during the duration of the Obama presidency, I can attest that the administration fought every document request every time, releasing only the bare minimum. No excuse was too thin to withhold documents or testimony.

In contrast, President Trump did the unthinkable: he actually waived both executive privilege and attorney-client privilege for the Mueller investigation. What other president would allow his general counsel to be interviewed for more than 30 hours?

Donald Trump does. He should be winning awards for his openness and transparency. We've never seen anything like it before. And it's messing with the Democrats' narrative.

This time, once again, the script hasn't gone according to plan. Before Schumer could type his 140 characters to ask what the president was hiding in the Ukraine whistleblower complaint, the transcript and the memo were declassified for all to read.

We know what comes next. There will be more whistleblowers with more claims that cannot be definitively verified. They will all be afraid to come out in the open for fear of their lives, or fear of flying, or fear of retaliation. Until the Democrats need to use them and forget them, as they did to Ford's still-unverified allegations and to Schiff's now-debunked memo.

Americans are not fooled. By now most of us have heard the message loud and clear. Rep. Al Green told us exactly what it was about when he told MSNBC in May, "I'm concerned that if we don't impeach this president, he will get re-elected."

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Posted 03 October 2019 - 12:56 AM

Yup, that's one of the things I love about Trump: You might hate what he thinks and says and does, but at least (unlike other presidents) you always know exactly what he thinks and says and does.

Transparent, and I love him for it. And his enemies hate him for it, because it ruins all their deliberately disingenuous schemes.

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Posted 03 October 2019 - 01:06 AM

the Swamp is not used to honesty and transparency, and can't figure out how to deal with it.

To quote a phrae, the dems are the yipping dog that catches the car (again) and doesn't know what to do next
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Posted 03 October 2019 - 05:17 AM

After reading this, I just realized something. What's happened with the Left and their Obstruction of Justice case against the president?! Is milking the Mueller investigation now over, or just set aside for now 'til the impeachment nonsense runs its course?!
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Posted 03 October 2019 - 06:19 AM

View PostNH Populist, on 03 October 2019 - 05:17 AM, said:

After reading this, I just realized something. What's happened with the Left and their Obstruction of Justice case against the president?! Is milking the Mueller investigation now over, or just set aside for now 'til the impeachment nonsense runs its course?!

As election approaches, the left will continue to use the line that about “proven collusion and obstruction of justice” and imply some kind of a technicality why he’s not impeached and in jail.
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Posted 03 October 2019 - 07:12 AM

I guess the border situation is resolved because we haven’t heard anything about it in 6 months.

Does this mean there are no more “children in cages?” Or is it more likely that that issue couldn’t destroy Trump and another issue was needed so they moved on?
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Posted 03 October 2019 - 08:39 AM

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Pelosi reiterated that message during her September 24, 2019 announcement of the impeachment inquiry. Finally acquiescing to the demands of her hyperventilating resistance movement, she explained why impeachment of Trump must proceed: "What's more serious is that he can't win. That is very serious to our country."


Unfortunately for our country, the Democrats are not serious people. To use their words, the impeachment inquiry is a "manufactured crisis". There is no whistleblower.

Adam Schiff wrote the script after waking from a fever dream of bugbear Trump and consulting with Democrat lawyers. The reason is the offense of talking to a foreign leader is coming out now is because they had to hold auditions for the next Christine Ballsy-Fraud. Which was so successful last time around.

While I agree with Jason Chaffetz's observation, he is just one of the 40 some reasons for this farce. If he and the other wimps had stuck around, Trump would be well into completing his agenda in his first term. Instead, we have mental midgets screeching "impeach" every second of the day.
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Posted 03 October 2019 - 12:38 PM

View PostLiz, on 02 October 2019 - 11:40 PM, said:

Trump's Transparency Is Driving The Left Nuts


It's driving the entire swamp nuts, on both sides of the aisle.

Pre-Trump, everyone in the swamp had a gentleman's agreement not to attack each other's corrupt money-making schemes unless they had already been exposed. They all knew what each other were doing but it was in their own interest not to say anything about it. If they campaigned on their opponent's corrupt schemes then their own corrupt schemes would be exposed in retaliation. Then Trump came along.

Trump doesn't have any corrupt schemes to be exposed. He's not interested in that sort of thing. He even donates his entire $400,000 Presidential salary every year. The swamp was caught off guard. It started with Trump's "Crooked Hillary" branding and snowballed from there. Their only defense was to fabricate corrupt schemes allegedly committed by Trump.

Trump is interfering with the income of career criminals. He's sticking his neck out for America. I fear for Trump's safety if when he's reelected. He's definitely got my vote.

Stay safe President Trump!
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Posted 03 October 2019 - 01:33 PM

View PostNatural Selection, on 03 October 2019 - 12:38 PM, said:

It's driving the entire swamp nuts, on both sides of the aisle.

Pre-Trump, everyone in the swamp had a gentleman's agreement not to attack each other's corrupt money-making schemes unless they had already been exposed. They all knew what each other were doing but it was in their own interest not to say anything about it. If they campaigned on their opponent's corrupt schemes then their own corrupt schemes would be exposed in retaliation. Then Trump came along.

Trump doesn't have any corrupt schemes to be exposed. He's not interested in that sort of thing. He even donates his entire $400,000 Presidential salary every year. The swamp was caught off guard. It started with Trump's "Crooked Hillary" branding and snowballed from there. Their only defense was to fabricate corrupt schemes allegedly committed by Trump.

Trump is interfering with the income of career criminals. He's sticking his neck out for America. I fear for Trump's safety if when he's reelected. He's definitely got my vote.

Stay safe President Trump!

I have been thinking the exact same thing, including his safety, but didn’t want to refer to it explicitly. It’s definitely a major worry point.
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Posted 03 October 2019 - 01:38 PM

View PostNatural Selection, on 03 October 2019 - 12:38 PM, said:

It's driving the entire swamp nuts, on both sides of the aisle.

Pre-Trump, everyone in the swamp had a gentleman's agreement not to attack each other's corrupt money-making schemes unless they had already been exposed. They all knew what each other were doing but it was in their own interest not to say anything about it. If they campaigned on their opponent's corrupt schemes then their own corrupt schemes would be exposed in retaliation. Then Trump came along.

Trump doesn't have any corrupt schemes to be exposed. He's not interested in that sort of thing. He even donates his entire $400,000 Presidential salary every year. The swamp was caught off guard. It started with Trump's "Crooked Hillary" branding and snowballed from there. Their only defense was to fabricate corrupt schemes allegedly committed by Trump.

Trump is interfering with the income of career criminals. He's sticking his neck out for America. I fear for Trump's safety if when he's reelected. He's definitely got my vote.

Stay safe President Trump!


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Posted 03 October 2019 - 02:11 PM

If/when he is reelected, I'm thinking the Secret Service will be swamped. I fully expect violence and even an assassination attempt. Or three. Antifa will riot, their damage to cities will run into many millions of dollars, and may well provoke serious violent backlash from the Right. You can't go destroying what little comity that has existed between the Left and Right and in our society without eventually engendering a tit for tat response. Human nature says otherwise, in fact I'm consistently amazed it hasn't happened yet, the Right is much better at self control than the Left is.
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Posted 03 October 2019 - 03:44 PM

The swamp and proggies were already nuts to begin with.

Now their nuttiness is on steroids.
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Posted 03 October 2019 - 03:56 PM

View PostRock N, on 03 October 2019 - 03:44 PM, said:

The swamp and proggies were already nuts to begin with.

Now their nuttiness is on steroids.


Schiff-head has wanted to impeach PRESIDENT Donald J. Trump the minute that the 2016 election was certified.

Now he is delirious because Trump's calls for an investigation into Ukrainian corruption might land Schiff in prison.
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Posted 03 October 2019 - 08:32 PM

View Postgravelrash, on 03 October 2019 - 03:56 PM, said:

Schiff-head has wanted to impeach PRESIDENT Donald J. Trump the minute that the 2016 election was certified.

Now he is delirious because Trump's calls for an investigation into Ukrainian corruption might land Schiff in prison.

And it might also possibly land Biden and son both in prison as well?

I'm not gonna hold my breath though, but wouldn't that be SA-WEEET if it did? :D

Schiffhead belongs in prison ASAP.

I would love to see someone use his head as a speed bag!
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Posted 04 October 2019 - 08:27 AM

View PostRock N, on 03 October 2019 - 08:32 PM, said:

And it might also possibly land Biden and son both in prison as well?

I'm not gonna hold my breath though, but wouldn't that be SA-WEEET if it did? :D

Schiffhead belongs in prison ASAP.

I would love to see someone use his head as a speed bag!




Me too!

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Posted 04 October 2019 - 01:05 PM

Transparency??? Seriously?

https://media3.giphy.com/media/9VrsRNeA0SHcEeos1h/source.gif

Time for a review of this supposed "transparency":


1. After the conversation with Ukranian President, Trump's WH inapropriately BURRIED the full transcript into CIA's top secret vault (aka CONVERUP).

2. Trump's WH and DOJ then BURRIED the original whictleblower complaint when it was (INAPROPRIATELY) given to them by DNI AG (aka COVERUP).

3. Whistleblower then contacted the House Intellegince Committee head (Schiff) office, who advised him to take this complaint to CIA Inspector General.

4. It was this Inspector General that then went before the Congress to tell them that WH and DOJ is gagging DNI being able to gvie them URGENT AND CREDIBLE whistleblower complaint.

5. Only after all this came out publicly and Congress threatened action did WH finally released the partial memmorandum of the conversation (AND NOT FULL TRANSCRIPT).

6. DNI AG was told to testify before the Congress and at that point was still told to NOT release the whisleblower complaint...until he threatened to quit.



So, just as in the case of Trump Junior's emails about them loving to get some dirt on Clinton from Russians, Trump is only "transparent"....right after he realizes his dirty laundry is being, or soon will be aired.


And now he ofcourse and publicly flaunts that Ukranians and Chinese should investigate Bidens...which means just one thing - he provably applied pressure on both countries to go stir up dirt on his political opponent.
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Posted 04 October 2019 - 01:34 PM

View PostAntonToo, on 04 October 2019 - 01:05 PM, said:

And now he ofcourse and publicly flaunts that Ukranians and Chinese should investigate Bidens...which means just one thing - he provably applied pressure on both countries to go stir up dirt on his political opponent.

Can I ask you a serious question? Does it bother you in the slightest that the idiot son of Biden who was kicked out of the military and has no discernible “skills” beyond his sonhood to a former VP was making $50K a month in an industry he has no experience and employed by a Ukrainian crook through a company that was being investigated by a prosecutor his Dad actually used political pressure to have fired? And his son was also working with Kerry’s stepson and the ChiComs?

You suspect DJT if he said he had a cheeseburger to have illegally ate sushi and none of the above seems the least bit fishy to you?

Now, let’s say that Biden isn’t trying to become the dumbest President in our history. If a President has reason to believe that a former VP misused power for nepotism in a foreign country, would it be OK for that President to talk about that ask and for investigation in the country it occurred?

I know you won’t answer, but the questions are there.

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Posted 04 October 2019 - 01:47 PM

To those convinced that what PRESIDENT Donald J. Trump is doing is illegal and an impeachable offense even though it would be the exact same thing that the 0bama administration and Democrat National Committee did to him: Payback's a bitch.
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Posted 04 October 2019 - 02:06 PM

View PostJerryL, on 04 October 2019 - 01:34 PM, said:

Now, let’s say that Biden isn’t trying to become the dumbest President in our history. If a President has reason to believe that a former VP misused power for nepotism in a foreign country, would it be OK for that President to talk about that ask and for investigation in the country it occurred?


Your entire post was very good, Jerry. But this specific portion is the part I'm most anxious to see answered.

And no, LOL, I'm not holding my breath.

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Posted 04 October 2019 - 02:08 PM

View PostAntonToo, on 04 October 2019 - 01:05 PM, said:

Transparency??? Seriously?

https://media3.giphy.com/media/9VrsRNeA0SHcEeos1h/source.gif

Time for a review of this supposed "transparency":


1. After the conversation with Ukranian President, Trump's WH inapropriately BURRIED the full transcript into CIA's top secret vault (aka CONVERUP).

2. Trump's WH and DOJ then BURRIED the original whictleblower complaint when it was (INAPROPRIATELY) given to them by DNI AG (aka COVERUP).

3. Whistleblower then contacted the House Intellegince Committee head (Schiff) office, who advised him to take this complaint to CIA Inspector General.

4. It was this Inspector General that then went before the Congress to tell them that WH and DOJ is gagging DNI being able to gvie them URGENT AND CREDIBLE whistleblower complaint.

5. Only after all this came out publicly and Congress threatened action did WH finally released the partial memmorandum of the conversation (AND NOT FULL TRANSCRIPT).

6. DNI AG was told to testify before the Congress and at that point was still told to NOT release the whisleblower complaint...until he threatened to quit.



So, just as in the case of Trump Junior's emails about them loving to get some dirt on Clinton from Russians, Trump is only "transparent"....right after he realizes his dirty laundry is being, or soon will be aired.


And now he ofcourse and publicly flaunts that Ukranians and Chinese should investigate Bidens...which means just one thing - he provably applied pressure on both countries to go stir up dirt on his political opponent.


Wait a minute, if there is a "secret vault" then how are you aware of it. Are you the "whistleblower"?!?! Oh and all classified materials such as conversations between the President of the United States and foreign powers are in fact classified as Top Secret, and "buried" in a Top Secret Vault, so to speak. Oh and why is it that Obama wrote a order that buried HIS conversations with all dignitaries etc and sealed them for 12 years.

https://www.worldtri...s-for-12-years/
They are in a "secret vault" too and no one is allowed to read them. But that's ok right?

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