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Posted 29 November 2019 - 09:02 AM

Former Deutsche Bank Exec Connected to Trump Loans Dies by Suicide in Malibu
By Ian Spiegelman -November 27, 2019

A former Deutsche Bank executive who reportedly signed off on some of the institution’s unorthodox loans to Donald Trump killed himself in his Malibu home on November 19. Thomas Bowers, the onetime head of Deutsche Bank’s American wealth-management division, where he oversaw Trump’s private banker, committed suicide by hanging, according to Los Angeles County Medical Examiner-Coroner’s office. Bowers was 55.

Trump’s relationship with Deutsche Bank—which lent him around $2 billion after most other institutions had forsaken him for his history of defaults and bankruptcies—has come under investigation by two Congressional committees and the New York Attorney General, who are hoping the bank can shed light on Trump’s elusive finances, according to the New York Times. At one point, Bowers had a close connection to those finances.

Rosemary T. Vrablic, a managing director at Deutsche Bank who became Trump’s private banker in 2010 after being introduced by her client, Jared Kushner, reported directly to Bowers. Vrablic reportedly helped Trump secure loans from her bank, which Bowers approved—including more than $100 million to buy his Doral resort in Miami—even after Trump and Deutsche had to settle messy litigation over a Chicago loan that went bad.

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Posted 29 November 2019 - 09:04 AM

Well maybe this person is also connected to Hillary Clinton? Interesting do you see suspicious circumstances here while pretending Epstein's death was obviously not suspicious?
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Posted 29 November 2019 - 09:20 AM

View PostTaggart Transcontinental, on 29 November 2019 - 09:04 AM, said:

Well maybe this person is also connected to Hillary Clinton? Interesting do you see suspicious circumstances here while pretending Epstein's death was obviously not suspicious?

:lol: So predictable..

I’ve never said Epstein couldn’t have had ‘assistance’ with his suicide..
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Posted 29 November 2019 - 09:31 AM

View PostLadybird, on 29 November 2019 - 09:20 AM, said:

:lol: So predictable..

I’ve never said Epstein couldn’t have had ‘assistance’ with his suicide..


I think Taggert’s commenting on the obvious Guilt by Association masquerading as journalism.
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Posted 29 November 2019 - 09:39 AM

View PostGrimV, on 29 November 2019 - 09:31 AM, said:

I think Taggert’s commenting on the obvious Guilt by Association masquerading as journalism.

His connection to the president should not be reported at all?
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Posted 29 November 2019 - 09:43 AM

View PostLadybird, on 29 November 2019 - 09:39 AM, said:

His connection to the president should not be reported at all?


Our GOP (and GOP-adjacent) friends prefer to ignore Trump’s lack of disclosure and/or divestiture related to his “businesses.”
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Posted 29 November 2019 - 09:52 AM

View PostThat_Guy, on 29 November 2019 - 09:43 AM, said:

Our GOP (and GOP-adjacent) friends prefer to ignore Trump’s lack of disclosure and/or divestiture related to his “businesses.”

You mean like how your Obamunist had all of his records sealed from the public that other presidents except Clinton never had tried to hide before?
You had no problem with those?

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Posted 29 November 2019 - 09:54 AM

View PostLadybird, on 29 November 2019 - 09:20 AM, said:

:lol: So predictable..

I’ve never said Epstein couldn’t have had ‘assistance’ with his suicide..

Not nearly as predictable as who would be the one that posted this article here?

I knew who did it before I ever clicked on it.
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Posted 29 November 2019 - 10:01 AM

View PostRock N, on 29 November 2019 - 09:52 AM, said:

You mean like how your Obamunist had all of his records sealed from the public that other presidents except Clinton never had tried to hide before?
You had no problem with those?

Because it’s nonsense.
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Posted 29 November 2019 - 10:18 AM

”Bowers hasn’t been employed by Deutsche since at least 2015, when he joined Starwood Capitol Group as COO, and was then appointed to the Board of Directors of Opus Bank in 2016.”

This is a pretty weak link to Trump. But, anything to get clicks, right?
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Posted 29 November 2019 - 10:22 AM

View PostLadybird, on 29 November 2019 - 10:01 AM, said:



No it's not.

Pretty telling that you'd use Fact Check or Snopes which are both proven leftist liars.
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Posted 29 November 2019 - 10:24 AM

Deutsch Bank, Thomas Bowers, and then private citizen Donald J. Trump agreed a to financial contract. It wasn't until Donald J. Trump beat the worst candidate in the history of Presidential races did our federal government and a bunch of Trump-hating New York lawyers hell-bent on revenge took notice.

Remember, if they can do this to a duly-elected President, they can do it to you. They not Trump are a direct threats to your rights and freedoms. They use words like "truth over facts" and "political norms" to justify their lawlessness.
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Posted 29 November 2019 - 10:25 AM

View PostLadybird, on 29 November 2019 - 10:01 AM, said:


Great! What were Obama’s grades in college? How did he pay for it, as well?

Should be easy to find these documents letting us know, right? ;)
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Posted 29 November 2019 - 10:36 AM

View PostThat_Guy, on 29 November 2019 - 09:43 AM, said:

Our GOP (and GOP-adjacent) friends prefer to ignore Trump’s lack of disclosure and/or divestiture related to his “businesses.”


:biglaugh:

Keep pissing in the wind, boy.

View PostRock N, on 29 November 2019 - 09:52 AM, said:

You mean like how your Obamunist had all of his records sealed from the public that other presidents except Clinton never had tried to hide before?
You had no problem with those?


:exactly:

View PostRock N, on 29 November 2019 - 09:54 AM, said:

Not nearly as predictable as who would be the one that posted this article here?

I knew who did it before I ever clicked on it.


:exactly:

Me too.

But I guess when your infantile impeachment scam is hitting the skids,you gotta keep it fresh.

View PostLadybird, on 29 November 2019 - 10:01 AM, said:



:bs:

Fact check? Yeah their non biased...

View PostRock N, on 29 November 2019 - 10:22 AM, said:

No it's not.

Pretty telling that you'd use Fact Check or Snopes which are both proven leftist liars.


:exactly:

View Posterp, on 29 November 2019 - 10:18 AM, said:

”Bowers hasn’t been employed by Deutsche since at least 2015, when he joined Starwood Capitol Group as COO, and was then appointed to the Board of Directors of Opus Bank in 2016.”

This is a pretty weak link to Trump. But, anything to get clicks, right?


Just another day in Obtusina land.

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Posted 29 November 2019 - 10:40 AM

View PostThat_Guy, on 29 November 2019 - 09:43 AM, said:

Our GOP (and GOP-adjacent) friends prefer to ignore Trump’s lack of disclosure and/or divestiture related to his “businesses.”


Just like your dear Barry Soetoro did with his college records and other documents?

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Posted 29 November 2019 - 10:48 AM

View PostLadybird, on 29 November 2019 - 09:02 AM, said:

A former Deutsche Bank executive who reportedly signed off on some of the institution’s unorthodox loans to Donald Trump killed himself in his Malibu home on November 19. Thomas Bowers, the onetime head of Deutsche Bank’s American wealth-management division, where he oversaw Trump’s private banker, committed suicide by hanging, according to Los Angeles County Medical Examiner-Coroner’s office. Bowers was 55.

View PostThat_Guy, on 29 November 2019 - 09:43 AM, said:

Our GOP (and GOP-adjacent) friends prefer to ignore Trump’s lack of disclosure and/or divestiture related to his “businesses.”


Until there is probable cause to believe these loans went beyond mere 'unorthodox' and into 'criminal', Trump's business is NOBODY ELSE'S business.
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Posted 29 November 2019 - 10:52 AM

View PostDean Adam Smithee, on 29 November 2019 - 10:48 AM, said:

Until there is probable cause to believe these loans went beyond mere 'unorthodox' and into 'criminal', Trump's business is NOBODY ELSE'S business.


:exactly:

But since their bull<censored> impeachment scam is predictably hitting the skids, they gotta keep it fresh.
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Posted 29 November 2019 - 10:58 AM

View PostLadybird, on 29 November 2019 - 09:20 AM, said:

:lol: So predictable..

I've never said Epstein couldn't have had 'assistance' with his suicide..


Yeah Agenda_bird you are right it is so predictable. Someone can't just off themselves during this time of year without it being suspiciously connected to the POTUS? People whack themselves this time of year a lot. So maybe, just maybe there is nothing suspicious about this?

View PostLadybird, on 29 November 2019 - 09:39 AM, said:

His connection to the president should not be reported at all?


Why should it be? How many connected to Clinton were ever pointed out as such?
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Posted 29 November 2019 - 11:03 AM

View PostLadybird, on 29 November 2019 - 10:01 AM, said:



No its not nonsense.

https://www.worldtri...s-for-12-years/

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President Barack Obama has opted to keep his presidential records under wraps for 12 years after he leaves office on Jan. 20.


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Obama’s notice, dated July 26, 2016, means that if he were to die or become incapacitated before 2029, Breckenridge would retain discretion over which advice and appointment-related records should be made public, according to Politico.


Meaning all his actions in office are sealed until that date, but can be released if he allows it. On the other hand after 2029 if he does not sign another letter then they will all be released. He can literally keep all official records under wraps until he authorizes their release indefinitely.



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Posted 29 November 2019 - 11:22 AM

View PostLadybird, on 29 November 2019 - 09:20 AM, said:

:lol: So predictable..
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Actually, LB, I've found you to be quite predictable much of the time...
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