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#1 User is offline   Liz 

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  Posted 29 November 2019 - 06:00 PM

Why Republicans Won’t Abandon Trump

Democrats want Americans to care about corruption. America’s answer? You first.

The American Spectator
by Melissa Mackenzie
November 25, 2019, 12:04 AM

Excerpt:

Glenn Reynolds of Instapundit fame says about climate change, “I’ll believe it’s a crisis when the people who tell me it’s a crisis start acting like it’s a crisis.” He means, of course, that when all those lecturing Americans about the end of the world give up their three yachts, two private jets, four 20,000-square-foot air-conditioned homes, then he’ll believe they believe their own bull about climate change. They don’t believe it’s that bad, which is why they live like Russian oligarchs. Why should anyone listen to them or subject themselves to rules they themselves ignore?

Using this same reasoning, Republican voters will believe there’s a corruption crisis deserving of impeachment when the people who tell them it’s a crisis start acting like it’s a crisis. The media, Democrats, and anti-Trumpers have been caterwauling for three years about President Trump violating norms, abusing power, bullying (and now bribing! Gasp!) governments, and generally using the power of the executive branch to act like he’s been crowned king. Whether this is true or not is up for debate.

Trump haters are confounded by Trump supporters. They ask, “If you believe it’s true that Trump does sketchy things, why don’t you care?” They ask the same question about the climate: “You concede that the climate is changing, so why won’t you do something about it?”

The answer: You first.

In the case of climate change, the religionists would recruit more adherents if they weren’t so utterly hypocritical in their lives. Maybe people would start cycling and driving a Prius. Likewise, the new converts to constrained executive power, adherence to norms, and a president who isn’t hostile to half of America would be taken more seriously if they ever took corruption seriously in the past. They didn’t. So current Republicans shrug with President Trump.

Here’s a smattering of what didn’t bother the corruption biddies with Obama: A daily, often illegal, executive order. Obama pompously threatened and humiliated the Supreme Court to their faces during the State of the Union. Anyone who disagreed with him was accused of racism. He called people who didn’t vote for him “bitter clingers” and “tea baggers.” Narcissism? He carried around a selfie stick and slow-jammed the news like a teenager. Foreign policy? He gave guns to Mexican drug cartels and pallets of money to the leading worldwide sponsor of terror. He started inane wars and ignored red lines. He used the power of the FBI, DOJ, and State Department to help his party surveil the leading candidate for the opposing party. And then, his minions in all parts of the government, continued their sanctioned behavior to unseat the duly elected president. Obama’s administration got rich while serving — both his secretary of state and vice president used their power for personal gain. His OMB revealed every person who worked in government to the Chinese, which resulted in murdered spies. Ambassadors weren’t pestered on Twitter; they were left to die. And then, innocent civilians were blamed for videos and imprisoned. What? Nothing? How about the active bugging of journalists’ homes, computers, and their parents’ homes? Still nothing?

And where was the media? Where were the righteous government workers and whistleblowers appalled at the president’s behavior? There were some. They were just fired, prosecuted, or imprisoned. Where was the investigation by Congress into the abuses of power and corruption? Nowhere. In fact, these same folks will, with a straight face, say that the Obama administration was “scandal-free.” Of course it was. Everyone was in on the scandal. The media actively covered for President Obama and still do.

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Posted 29 November 2019 - 06:31 PM

They won't abandon PRESIDENT Donald J. Trump because they bottom line agree with his approach and his policies. The Left will be confused about how much shrimp that they have to eat a d: to change the minds of people who don't eat D.
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Posted 29 November 2019 - 07:04 PM

I can't think of one reason why I would abandon Trump in favor of a Leftist. But I sure as hell can think of plenty to keep him right where he is!

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 01:36 AM

GREAT opening article.

Yup, the Obama administration was the most corrupt in this nation's history, and not ONE of the leftwing "pundits" who have spent the past three years demanding Trump's head on a platter gave a damn. In fact, even worse than merely not giving a damn, they were direct accomplices in Obama's criminal outrages.

They can all kiss my rosy-red @$$. And Trump's going to be re-elected in a landslide.

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 07:05 AM

View Postgravelrash, on 29 November 2019 - 06:31 PM, said:

They won't abandon PRESIDENT Donald J. Trump because they bottom line agree with his approach and his policies. The Left will be confused about how much shrimp that they have to eat a d: to change the minds of people who don't eat D.


Plus, he manages to get things done that BENEFIT all Americans, not just special segments of the population and he shows pride in being an American instead of apologizing for being part of this nation.
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Posted 30 November 2019 - 07:53 AM

Anyone seen what's going on in Hong Kong this morning? Students protesting against Communism are flying the American flag and posters of Donald Trump in appreciation of his support. I'm sure Leftists and their lappy lap lap media mongrels are thinking of ways to make this a bad thing even as I type.
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Posted 30 November 2019 - 06:31 PM

View PostTicked@TinselTown, on 30 November 2019 - 07:05 AM, said:

Plus, he manages to get things done that BENEFIT all Americans, not just special segments of the population and he shows pride in being an American instead of apologizing for being part of this nation.

:yeahthat: Seems simple enough, right? :2up:
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Posted 30 November 2019 - 06:33 PM

View Postgrimreefer, on 30 November 2019 - 06:31 PM, said:

:yeahthat: Seems simple enough, right? :2up:


Apparently simple doesn't cut it for the leftards... Which explains Common Core math... :blink:
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Posted 30 November 2019 - 07:33 PM

Abandon Trump for who? He's the only "Republican" I've even liked since Cheney. I would never, could never, vote for any Democrat.
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Posted 30 November 2019 - 08:28 PM

Just wondering something..
When the POTUS yells curse words at his rallies, and the rest of his supporters chant along, do the kiddies in the audience chant along as well?
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Posted 30 November 2019 - 08:31 PM

View PostLadybird, on 30 November 2019 - 08:28 PM, said:

Just wondering something..
When the POTUS yells curse words at his rallies, and the rest of his supporters chant along, do the kiddies in the audience chant along as well?


Could be.
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Posted 30 November 2019 - 09:33 PM

View PostLadybird, on 30 November 2019 - 08:28 PM, said:

Just wondering something..
When the POTUS yells curse words at his rallies, and the rest of his supporters chant along, do the kiddies in the audience chant along as well?

I dunno, but I can do a waddabout... Do they at the democrat "rallies"? Do the kiddies want to Impeach the Mother F*****TM too? :shrug:
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Posted 30 November 2019 - 09:34 PM

 Ladybird, on 30 November 2019 - 08:28 PM, said:

Just wondering something..
When the POTUS yells curse words at his rallies, and the rest of his supporters chant along, do the kiddies in the audience chant along as well?

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 09:45 PM

And besides, if the "point" is that it's immoral to let innocent children hear foul language, isn't it orders of magnitude WORSE to raise them to believe murdering innocent children is OK?

Yup, it's a "whatabout". And it's straight to the point. Any leftist presuming to "scold" about something like "bad language" or just plain morals in general is just plain silly.

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 10:27 PM

 MontyPython, on 30 November 2019 - 09:45 PM, said:

And besides, if the "point" is that it's immoral to let innocent children hear foul language, isn't it orders of magnitude WORSE to raise them to believe murdering innocent children is OK?

Yup, it's a "whatabout". And it's straight to the point. Any leftist presuming to "scold" about something like "bad language" or just plain morals in general is just plain silly.

:rolleyes:


Or prescribing drugs to kids as young as five years old either for "short attention span" or "gender identity" issues. Which alter their developing minds chemically and bodies physically. Or telling them they are all going to die because their parents are killing the earth. Or shaming and blaming them for being white, heterosexual, Christian, cisgender, and/or male.

In those respects, PRESIDENT Donald J. Trump's crude, rude, no apologies manners are on par with the Left's. That's why they are quick to condemn his words. Trump is beating them at their own game.
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Posted 30 November 2019 - 11:04 PM

View PostNH Populist, on 30 November 2019 - 07:53 AM, said:

Anyone seen what's going on in Hong Kong this morning? Students protesting against Communism are flying the American flag and posters of Donald Trump in appreciation of his support. I'm sure Leftists and their lappy lap lap media mongrels are thinking of ways to make this a bad thing even as I type.


http://i.postimg.cc/HnhM98TM/Trump-Hong-Kong.jpg

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Posted 30 November 2019 - 11:51 PM

View PostLadybird, on 30 November 2019 - 08:28 PM, said:

Just wondering something..
When the POTUS yells curse words at his rallies, and the rest of his supporters chant along, do the kiddies in the audience chant along as well?


Maybe. Could be worse though, its not like they line their children up to flash middle fingers and scream F Trump on televisions like the left is prone to do.
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Posted 01 December 2019 - 12:01 AM

View Postgravelrash, on 30 November 2019 - 10:27 PM, said:

Or prescribing drugs to kids as young as five years old either for "short attention span" or "gender identity" issues. Which alter their developing minds chemically and bodies physically. Or telling them they are all going to die because their parents are killing the earth. Or shaming and blaming them for being white, heterosexual, Christian, cisgender, and/or male.

In those respects, PRESIDENT Donald J. Trump's crude, rude, no apologies manners are on par with the Left's. That's why they are quick to condemn his words. Trump is beating them at their own game.


Yup, perfectly put. Any person who votes for Democrats and yet condemns Trump's morals/language/whatever has one helluva nerve.

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Posted 01 December 2019 - 12:40 AM

Wow. Someone just got knocked around a bit in this thread
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Posted 01 December 2019 - 03:45 AM

View PostLadybird, on 30 November 2019 - 08:28 PM, said:

Just wondering something..
When the POTUS yells curse words at his rallies, and the rest of his supporters chant along, do the kiddies in the audience chant along as well?


It is astonishing just how absurd your posts can be.
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