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#1 User is offline   MTP Reggie 

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Posted 25 March 2020 - 06:27 AM

NYPD Raids Sleeping Truckers In Brooklyn, Tows Trucks Needed To Haul Supplies
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Brooklyn, NY New York Police Department (NYPD) officers conducted a raid Monday morning on a group of long-haul truckers who were sleeping in their cabs on a residential street in the 66th Precinct.

NYPD Deputy Inspector James King, the commanding officer of the 66th Precinct, tweeted about the operation right after it happened, but has since deleted the post in which he bragged about having illegally parked tractor trailers towed in the middle of the coronavirus pandemic emergency.

The tweet was captured by retired NYPD Detective David Chianese and published on his Advocacy for LEOs blog on Tuesday.

"Our traffic safety officer was out on Bay pkwy towing these illegally parked trailers," the NYPD 66th Precinct tweeted on Monday morning. "Please remember commercial vehicles cannot be parked on residential blocks."

The incident occurred just before dawn on March 23 when a number of over-the-road truck drivers were sleeping in the cabs of their trucks on a mixed use street in Brooklyn, according to the Advocacy for LEOs blog.

Officers from the 66th Precinct and the NYPD Traffic Enforcement Division descended on the block to wake up the out-of-state truck drivers, most of whom were catching a nap while they waited for their trailers to be reloaded for another trip, Advocacy for LEOs reported.

On Monday, instead of waking up and returning to pick up their goods to haul, the truckers were forced to deal with the impound lot to retrieve the trucks, leaving much needed supplies on pallets inside parked trailers.

NYPD sources told Blue Lives Matter that what happened in the 66th Precinct was "utterly disgusting" and mirrored the rest of the behavior that has been going on in the prominently Jewish Hillside community ever since the emergency shutdowns were announced.

On source said that NYPD went after the truckers because Jewish leaders in the area complained that the trucks were blocking their parking.

The largely Orthodox and Hasidic Jewish communities in Brooklyn have continued to hold large gatherings such as weddings despite orders to stay at home and observe social distancing when in public amidst the threat of the coronavirus pandemic, the New York Post reported.

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Posted 25 March 2020 - 07:12 AM

Stupid. I love being a Sheriff Deputy, when people ask me the difference between a deputy and a police officer (there are many) the one I tell them the most is "I don't write parking tickets". This is just idiocy on steroids. 1st complaining about not having a parking space when you should be HOME. 2nd towing truck drivers vehicles? Just wow. That top cop and all the fools in between need a good discussion about what they should and should not be doing. This is one of those should NOT be doings.
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Posted 25 March 2020 - 08:56 AM

O gee I guess a simple tap on the door and saying you can't park here and directing the drivers to somewhere that they can is just to much to ask.
Do gotta' wonder if this wasn't necessarily the Officer on the scenes decision or discretion was essentially taken away.
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Posted 25 March 2020 - 09:18 AM

Ah, I see, it's the Jew's fault. I don't know about the state of NY, but I'd heard Pennsylvania closed all rest stops, not even allowing truckers to park in the lots to sleep, forcing them to find other areas.
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Posted 25 March 2020 - 09:24 AM

View Postoki, on 25 March 2020 - 08:56 AM, said:

O gee I guess a simple tap on the door and saying you can't park here and directing the drivers to somewhere that they can is just to much to ask.
Do gotta' wonder if this wasn't necessarily the Officer on the scenes decision or discretion was essentially taken away.


First of all like you said, towing? Really? The proper action would be to notify the owner first and tell them to move the vehicle. Towing it away when the vehicle isn't abandoned? There are lawsuits to be had here by good smart lawyers who can use this to destroy that crap, and make the drivers thousands. This would totally be a class action lawsuit.
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Posted 25 March 2020 - 09:25 AM

There's no problem that someone in government can't make worse.
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Posted 25 March 2020 - 09:31 AM

View PostTaggart Transcontinental, on 25 March 2020 - 09:24 AM, said:

First of all like you said, towing? Really? The proper action would be to notify the owner first and tell them to move the vehicle. Towing it away when the vehicle isn't abandoned? There are lawsuits to be had here by good smart lawyers who can use this to destroy that crap, and make the drivers thousands. This would totally be a class action lawsuit.


Thinking there may be an Emergency Situation or hindering of public transport or emergency supplies in there somewhere as well. City of New York Better hope like hell this didn't slow or hinder transport of any essentials like medical supplies, groceries or such. My guess is they hit there time limit and it was either find a place to pull over or the truck goes into crawl if not shut of mode. With everything shut down I would think that N.Y.C. could find a vacant or near vacant lot or two to set aside for drivers to pull in and rest.
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Posted 25 March 2020 - 10:53 AM

View PostMTP Reggie, on 25 March 2020 - 06:27 AM, said:

Officers from the 66th Precinct and the NYPD Traffic Enforcement Division descended on the block to wake up the out-of-state truck drivers, most of whom were catching a nap while they waited for their trailers to be reloaded for another trip, Advocacy for LEOs reported.


Long-haul trucking is not a new business. Hard to believe the issue of overnight parking for truckers has not been addressed and solved decades ago.
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Posted 25 March 2020 - 12:23 PM

View PostNatural Selection, on 25 March 2020 - 10:53 AM, said:

Long-haul trucking is not a new business. Hard to believe the issue of overnight parking for truckers has not been addressed and solved decades ago.


Most people don't realize that your average over the road driver is paid by mileage. If you ain't movin' you ain't earnin'.
They also don't realize that when you hit your time limit(I think it's 12 hours) it means you must pull over and rest for 8 hours(I think it's 8).
As most Tractors are equipped with G.P.S. know days and many have auto shut down or only allows you to drive at a very very slow speed, it's quite possible these guys where hitting there max time and had to find a place to pull over or else there truck goes into shut down or limp mode. One of the biggest issue drivers face is sitting at a warehouse waiting for a trailer that isn't ready, or waiting hours just to be able to drop a trailer. Throw in some gotta' have a trailer(load) here by X and it's quite possible the guys where having a rough time just to make a drop offs. Given that these guys didn't have any trailers at the time, and they are not trucks used for local or short runs I am thinking they had hit their time limit, had to find a spot to pull over and fast etc etc etc.
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Posted 25 March 2020 - 01:18 PM

View PostTaggart Transcontinental, on 25 March 2020 - 09:24 AM, said:

First of all like you said, towing? Really? The proper action would be to notify the owner first and tell them to move the vehicle. Towing it away when the vehicle isn't abandoned? There are lawsuits to be had here by good smart lawyers who can use this to destroy that crap, and make the drivers thousands. This would totally be a class action lawsuit.


I dunno. All I can say is, park a semi-truck (and trailer) in front of MY driveway (Even tho I'm not goin' anywhere for 14 days) and see how fast it get towed.
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Posted 25 March 2020 - 01:23 PM

View Postoki, on 25 March 2020 - 12:23 PM, said:

Most people don't realize that your average over the road driver is paid by mileage. If you ain't movin' you ain't earnin'.
They also don't realize that when you hit your time limit(I think it's 12 hours) it means you must pull over and rest for 8 hours(I think it's 8).
As most Tractors are equipped with G.P.S. know days and many have auto shut down or only allows you to drive at a very very slow speed, it's quite possible these guys where hitting there max time and had to find a place to pull over or else there truck goes into shut down or limp mode. One of the biggest issue drivers face is sitting at a warehouse waiting for a trailer that isn't ready, or waiting hours just to be able to drop a trailer. Throw in some gotta' have a trailer(load) here by X and it's quite possible the guys where having a rough time just to make a drop offs. Given that these guys didn't have any trailers at the time, and they are not trucks used for local or short runs I am thinking they had hit their time limit, had to find a spot to pull over and fast etc etc etc.


Correct on all points. One job that I had was processing accessorials (pronounced "assessorials" by many Midwesterners including myself). Any accessorial is a fee (usually hourly) that a drayage charges for one of their trucks waiting at a terminal beyond the agreed timeframe whether to load, unload, or hook up to a container. If the wait time might exceed a driver's limit, dispatchers would send the driver to another terminal or order them off property to make room for the next driver.

If a driver did not have another run, he would go into downtime to recoup his log time. This would normally mean a return to dispatch or a designated rest area. With Just-in-Time Pick-Up and Delivery (JIT), many drivers opted to find a location close to their next appointment. Which included park-and-nap just about anywhere they could find. Even in my neighborhood, I have seen trucks parked in the remote corners of malls and on open lots.

Natural Selection, you forgot $$$.
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Posted 25 March 2020 - 01:41 PM

View Postgravelrash, on 25 March 2020 - 01:23 PM, said:

Correct on all points. One job that I had was processing accessorials (pronounced "assessorials" by many Midwesterners including myself). Any accessorial is a fee (usually hourly) that a drayage charges for one of their trucks waiting at a terminal beyond the agreed timeframe whether to load, unload, or hook up to a container. If the wait time might exceed a driver's limit, dispatchers would send the driver to another terminal or order them off property to make room for the next driver.

If a driver did not have another run, he would go into downtime to recoup his log time. This would normally mean a return to dispatch or a designated rest area. With Just-in-Time Pick-Up and Delivery (JIT), many drivers opted to find a location close to their next appointment. Which included park-and-nap just about anywhere they could find. Even in my neighborhood, I have seen trucks parked in the remote corners of malls and on open lots.

Natural Selection, you forgot $$$.



Absolutely, sounds like the Company at least somewhat understood driver moral and well being was critical to the business itself as well as efficiency.
One of my brothers used to not like Wal Mart one bit, after he started driving over the road a bit he learned real quick where the Wal Marts where on most the routes he took.
Why? Because most Wal Marts don't have an issue with a big rig pulling in for a couple hours so the drivers can get some needed down time. I think they also understood that those drivers would likely also at least hit the Grocery Isle as well as the fast food place and maybe get a hair cut as well. Not only a nice moral booster and very good PR but also good for business. My background a little I guess. Never drove over the road but did drive the really really big stuff when I was at Fort Sill(Hemtt)
5 Tons(both Commercial and Military) when I was in Okinawa, as well as a few 44 passenger buses. Your whole world changes when you are handling something that has a 100,000+ pound total weight rating. Much less handling a bus or 5 ton in the streets of Okinawa.
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Posted 25 March 2020 - 05:01 PM

View Postgravelrash, on 25 March 2020 - 01:23 PM, said:

Correct on all points. One job that I had was processing accessorials (pronounced "assessorials" by many Midwesterners including myself). Any accessorial is a fee (usually hourly) that a drayage charges for one of their trucks waiting at a terminal beyond the agreed timeframe whether to load, unload, or hook up to a container. If the wait time might exceed a driver's limit, dispatchers would send the driver to another terminal or order them off property to make room for the next driver.

If a driver did not have another run, he would go into downtime to recoup his log time. This would normally mean a return to dispatch or a designated rest area. With Just-in-Time Pick-Up and Delivery (JIT), many drivers opted to find a location close to their next appointment. Which included park-and-nap just about anywhere they could find. Even in my neighborhood, I have seen trucks parked in the remote corners of malls and on open lots.

Natural Selection, you forgot $$$.


We called it "Holding Time". Started out as a "Field Service" Engineer back in the '80s. Y'all would be flat out amazed how many times I've arrived on site ready to jump right into starting up a system, only to find out that everything was sill in a crate in the loading docks.

One major tech company - starts with an "I" - was Notorious for this. More than once I've flown from Portland ORE to Phoenix AZ and then driven down to Chandler AZ only to find out that my stuff was still in crates. But, that's okay. Down the road was the "Wild Horse Casino" with an excellent seafood buffet.

I'm "small biz"; I fret over $hundreds and especially $thousands wondering if it's actually "necessary". And then there's this "I" company that apparently has enough cash-on-hand to make Croesus look like a dumpster-diver in comparison.
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Posted 25 March 2020 - 08:36 PM

View Postoki, on 25 March 2020 - 01:41 PM, said:

Absolutely, sounds like the Company at least somewhat understood driver moral and well being was critical to the business itself as well as efficiency.
One of my brothers used to not like Wal Mart one bit, after he started driving over the road a bit he learned real quick where the Wal Marts where on most the routes he took.
Why? Because most Wal Marts don't have an issue with a big rig pulling in for a couple hours so the drivers can get some needed down time. I think they also understood that those drivers would likely also at least hit the Grocery Isle as well as the fast food place and maybe get a hair cut as well. Not only a nice moral booster and very good PR but also good for business. My background a little I guess. Never drove over the road but did drive the really really big stuff when I was at Fort Sill(Hemtt)
5 Tons(both Commercial and Military) when I was in Okinawa, as well as a few 44 passenger buses. Your whole world changes when you are handling something that has a 100,000+ pound total weight rating. Much less handling a bus or 5 ton in the streets of Okinawa.


I was stationed at MCAS Futenma 05/73 to 06/74 as KC130 engine and aircraft mech.
Did you ever have to drive anything large to our main gate?
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Posted 26 March 2020 - 08:58 AM

View Postlinewinder, on 25 March 2020 - 08:36 PM, said:

I was stationed at MCAS Futenma 05/73 to 06/74 as KC130 engine and aircraft mech.
Did you ever have to drive anything large to our main gate?


No kidding, I never had to bring anything bigger than a 2500 Dodge Ram through, BUT, a couple of our guys did have to bring a Five Ton through during a really strong Typhoon once to start some generators. My claim to fame is driving both a Five Ton and Old a$$ed U.S. Spec Bus down Kokusai Street. That was our driver training to get licensed on both. Our instructors belief was if you could do that without hitting something (or someone) you can pretty much drive one of those things most anywhere. Was back last in July of 18. Traffic has not gotten any better. Cars parked on the side of the road blocking traffic has, but that has been offset by all the Chinese tourists, none of which know how to freaken' drive. Well, know at the moment though traffic is way down due of coarse to the Corona Virus all but completely wiping out tourism.
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Posted 26 March 2020 - 08:11 PM

I'm embarrassed to say this happened in my city. How could the NYPD bosses have sanctioned this?

Unless they were given their marching orders by the Park Slope Dope.
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