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Does Fox News Cause Ignorance, or Do Ignorant Viewers Prefer Fox News?

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Does Fox News Cause Ignorance, or Do Ignorant Viewers Prefer Fox News?

 

A new study reveals the gap between the channel's fans and the rest of America

 

By Danny Vinik

 

June 10, 2014

 

Immediately before the presidential election in 2012, Fox News viewers were certain of one thing: Mitt Romney was going win. It didnt matter that poll after poll had President Barack Obama winning by a comfortable margin. Conservative pundits Michael Barone, George Will and Dick Morris all expected Romney to earn more than 300 electoral votes. Even after Obama's victory was certain on election night, Karl Rove wouldn't admit defeat.

 

For those of us reading Nate Silver and other election forecasters, those conservative predictions were laughably bad. And election night proved us correct: Obama won with 332 electoral votes. The millions of Republicans who were shocked and disappointed on election night were not let down by their hubris, although it undoubtedly played a role. The real fault lies with the conservative media system, which had become an echo chamber of right wing talking points that did not reflect the national landscape.

 

In the aftermath of Obamas reelection, smart conservatives argued that the right wing media was putting their party at a disadvantage by obscuring the truth. You haven't just been misinformed about the horse race, the Atlantics Conor Friedersdorf wrote. Since the very beginning of the election cycle, conservative media has been failing you. While Friedersdorf hoped the shellacking would be an awakening for the party, he doubted it would be. Nineteen months later, Friedersdorf is looking prophetic: A new Brookings poll shows just how out of touch Fox News viewers are with both their fellow Republicans and the rest of the country. They learned nothing from 2012.

 

The Brookings survey, conducted along with the Public Religion Research Institute, surveyed 1,538 adults focused on immigration reform, but also included questions on their news preferences and a collection of other policy issues. The focus on new preferences allowed the researchers to divide the Republican respondents into two groups: those that most trust Fox News to provide accurate information about politics and current events and those that most trust a different network. The former, whom the authors label Fox News Republicans, made up 53 percent of Republican respondents. Non-Fox News Republicans made up the remaining 47 percent.

 

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... 42 percent of Fox News Republicans support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. For Non-Fox News Republicans, its 60 percent. That puts the views of Non-Fox News Republicans closer to those of Independents (61 percent support a path to citizenship) and Democrats (70 percent).

 

The difference is even starker in terms of views of immigrants. Sixty percent of Fox News Republicans say immigrants are a burden, compared to just 33 percent who believe they strengthen the country. For Non-Fox News Republicans, the numbers are nearly reversed: 56 percent believe immigrants strengthen the country, compared with 38 percent who believe they are a burden. As the chart below shows, the views of Non-Fox News Republicans are once again closer to the views of all Americans than Fox News Republicans:

 

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That makes Fox News the home of the Republican Partys most conservative members. But those members would have found a home somewhere. Its telling that they have done so at the Republican Partys preeminent media source, but it does not disqualify the network from delivering factually correct news. Except the Brookings survey also finds that Fox News Republicans are the most uninformed on immigration issues as well. Sixty four percent of Fox News Republicans wrongly believe that illegal immigration has increased during the past few years. Adults who most trust the broadcast networks do not excel at that question either: 46 percent believe that illegal immigration has increased. But that's much better than Fox News viewers.

 

That doesn't mean Fox News is at fault for their viewers ignorance. Its impossible to determine causality from this survey. Fox News may attract extremely conservative viewers or it may make conservative viewers more extreme. Its likely a combination of the two. It is not possible from this data to offer a precise solution to the chicken-and-egg question whether the more important fact is that those with very conservative views are already attracted to Fox or whether Fox turns its viewers into conservatives, the authors write. What is clear is that conservative are drawn to Fox, and that Fox may, in turn, reinforce and perhaps harden conservative views.

 

Those hardened views are at odds not only with the rest of America, but also with the remaining 47 percent of the Republican Party who trust other news sources. In turn, Fox News viewers receive a warped view of the political landscape. Theyand Republican congressmenmay not consider Fox News an extreme news source. They may think it represents the center of the GOP. Under that mindset, presidential candidates should adopt a policy platform that appeals to the average Fox News viewer. But thats a mistake when the average Fox News member is an extreme conservative. Instead of adopting a position that can garner support from the entire political spectrum of the Republican Party, they have chosen one that turns off moderate Republicans and appeals directly to extreme conservatives. Those moderate Republicans may ultimately vote for the GOP, but this strategy almost certainly alienates independent voters.

 

This makes the Fox News echo chamber a hazard for the party. It creates extreme candidates under the guise that they are electable, builds up a false narrative that they are in fact electable and then acts surprised when that narrative doesnt play itself out. In 2012, this storyline was on full display. In the aftermath of that defeat, Fox and the Republican Party had the chance to fix it by reorganizing the stations content with more moderate hosts and more accurate coverage. They have chosen not to do soand its only going to continue to hurt them in 2016.

 

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Edited by Shaun_Micallef

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lol

TROLL ALERT!!!!e

Give it up. Obama is going to lose the senate and get impeach. Plus no one reads your posts. Saw the title and knew who post it.

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grimreefer

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Does Fox News Cause Ignorance...

:rolleyes:

 

 

I dunno. What causes yours, Micallef?

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Ticked@TinselTown

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:rolleyes:

 

 

I dunno. What causes yours, Micallef?

 

:rofl: Bazinga!

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Big Dave

:blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah:

 

Still trying for that OfA bonus!

Go wave your red herrings someplace else......

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MTP Reggie
Does Fox News Cause Ignorance, or Do Ignorant Viewers Prefer Fox News?

 

 

When did you stop beating your wife?

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Noclevermoniker

Desperately seeking attention.

 

Yep, You're an Attention Whore, Shaun.

 

Pathetic.

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Taggart Transcontinental
The real fault lies with conservative media system, which had become an echo chamber of right wing talking points that did not reflect the national landscape.

 

Says the left wing echo chamber....

 

This makes a huge difference for the policy preferences among Republicans. For instance, 42 percent of Fox News Republicans support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. For Non-Fox News Republicans, it’s 60 percent. That puts the views of Non-Fox News Republicans closer to those of Independents (61 percent support a path to citizenship) and Democrats (70 percent).

 

Here's the crux of the argument, those of us that watch fox feel illegals should not be given a "path" to legally stealing those benefits that they have NOT earned, nor should we provide them with a citizenship they do NOT deserve.

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Kilmerfan
:yawn:

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MontyPython

LOLOLOL

 

I was wondering why Shaun finally bought a membership. Now I understand: He/She/It just wants to bombard RN with this type of retarded swill. It really must suck to be so pointless and clueless. Life down there in Mommy's basement must be extraordinarily boring.

 

:rolleyes:

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Wyn

Does Fox News Cause Ignorance, or Do Ignorant Viewers Prefer Fox News?

 

:lol3:

 

Ignorant liberals think Fox News is ignorant foreigner.

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Severian

Fox News viewers are ignorant, they don't even believe the magic Energy Fairy will magically sprinkle free electricity from windmills into everyone's wall sockets overnight! Why, the ignoramuses! :whistling:

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J_T_Spaulding

I think it's quite an interesting article and post.

 

Shaun posted this assuming it would ruffle feathers. He assumes all RN members are blind worshipers of all things Fox News. This is projection of leftist's natural inclination towards Groupthink. It's a classic example of leftist's inability to think independently. Very neat!

 

The article states that Fox News viewers are ignorant because they don't fall in line with the Groupthink as defined by leftist's. How clever it that... scare your intended audience, fellow Groupthinkers, with a fabricated tale of manipulated or fictional survey data and ignorant people. You don't want to be ignorant? Then you better think like we tell you!

 

Funny stuff... Lenin used this same sort of garbage with complicit journalists and authors eagerly spreading the Soviet lies.

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Noclevermoniker

Funny stuff... Lenin used this same sort of garbage with complicit journalists and authors eagerly spreading the Soviet lies.

It's also "funny" that as soon as they'd outlived their usefullness to Lenin, they were all mysteriously "lost".

 

Or something.

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Severian

Those stupid Fox News wingnuts, they believe we are at war with Eurasia, when everyone knows we are at war with Eastasia. Meanwhile, they ignore the fact chocolate rations have been increased from 30 to 25 grams a week! Ignorant knobs.

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oki

So that's why Fox is clobbering all the other news outlets.

Wow, I see the correlation know. Fox is for idiots and that's why they are winning.

 

Ain't it funny how that works?

 

Oki

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MontyPython

Fox News viewers are ignorant, they don't even believe the magic Energy Fairy will magically sprinkle free electricity from windmills into everyone's wall sockets overnight! Why, the ignoramuses! :whistling:

Those stupid Fox News wingnuts, they believe we are at war with Eurasia, when everyone knows we are at war with Eastasia. Meanwhile, they ignore the fact chocolate rations have been increased from 30 to 25 grams a week! Ignorant knobs.

 

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Coach

The only thing this propaganda proves is that there are a lot of voters who buy into the MSM and progressive slant on how information is presented or not presented when it doesn't fit their talking points. Another glaring weakness in the article is that it ignores the fact that millions of FOX and non-FOX Conservatives stayed home on election day because they knew Romney was not a true Conservative. Which means that the Republican party once again failed to connect with its own base. It's not the voters who are ignorant it's the goddam political pros.

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vectorsrule

Shaun, it keeps saying that people who watch Fox "wrongly believe illegal immigration has increased." It never actually provides any data on what it means. Increase gross amount since 2005? Increase as a percentage? Increase in numbers? Everything else in this article was nothing more than one OPINION vs. another OPINION. The writers of this article assumed that any opinion Fox viewers had was automatically the wrong one. Even when compared with a "majority" opinion that does not automatically mean the minority one is inferior or incorrect. One educated person with the right answer still outweighs the uneducated view of a 1000.

 

You posted from a left wing magazine who quoted left wing think tanks to say that anything not left wing is somehow ignorant. Do you see the hole in your game?

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Howsithangin

:yawn:

:yeahthat:

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Quickbeam

There have been several scientific polls that have shown Fox News viewers to be less informed about public affairs than the rest of the population. Here's another one - apart from the Brookings poll I posted to kick off this thread. A Public Mind survey conducted in February 2012 used a randomly selected sample of 1185 respondents. Nine current affairs questions were asked - five relating to domestic affairs and four about international affairs. The methodology and questions are detailed below.

 

 

The survey by Fairleigh Dickinson University’s PublicMind was conducted by telephone from Feb. 6 through Feb. 12, 2012, using a randomly selected sample of 1185 adult residents, including an oversample of Republican voters, used to better estimate the Republican nominating process, nationwide contacted on both landlines and cell phones. The margin of error for a sample of 1185 randomly selected respondents is +/-3 percentage points. The margin of error for subgroups is larger and varies by the size of that subgroup. Survey results are also subject to non-sampling error. This kind of error, which cannot be measured, arises from a number of factors including, but not limited to, non-response (eligible individuals refusing to be interviewed), question wording, the order in which questions are asked, and variations among interviewers. PublicMind interviews are conducted by Opinion America of Cedar Knolls, NJ, with professionally trained interviewers using a CATI (Computer Assisted Telephone Interviewing) system. Random selection is achieved by computerized random - digit dialing. This

technique gives every person with a land-line phone number (including those with unlisted numbers) an equal chance of being selected. Landline households are supplemented with a separate, randomly selected sample of cell-phones, including cell- phone only and dual cell-phone and land-line households, interviewed in the same time frame. The total combined sample is mathematically weighted to match known demographics of age, race and gender among the voting population/

 

K1. To the best of your knowledge, have the opposition groups protesting in Egypt been successful in

removing Hosni Mubarak?

 

K2. How about the opposition groups in Syria? Have they been successful in removing Bashar al-Assad?

 

K3. Some countries in Europe are deeply in debt, and have had to be bailed out by other countries. To

the best of your knowledge, which country has had to spend the most money to bail out European countries?

 

K4. There have been increasing talks about economic sanctions against Iran. What are these sanctions supposed to do?

 

K5. Which party has the most seats in the House of Representatives right now?

 

K6A. In December, House Republicans agreed to a short-term extension of a payroll tax cut, but only if President Obama agreed to do what? (Open-Ended)

 

K6B. It took a long time to get the final results of the Iowa caucuses for Republican candidates. In the

end, who was declared the winner? (Open-Ended)

 

K7. How about the New Hampshire Primary? Which Republican won that race? (Open-Ended)

 

K8. According to the figures, about what percentage of Americans are currently unemployed? (Open-Ended)

 

 

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scotsman

:lol3:

 

Ignorant liberals think Fox News is ignorant foreigner.

 

Its owned by a furrner.

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Wyn

There have been several scientific polls that have shown Fox News viewers to be less informed about public affairs than the rest of the population.

 

:lol3:

 

As a wise man once said:

 

FYI - You're not qualified to make that statement.

 

Unless, perhaps, you're willing to share your published and peer-reviewed works on the subject.

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