Jump to content
To change color scheme, click on themes at bottom of page ×
RightNation.US
Sign in to follow this  
Martin

Village Voice Shutting Down

Rate this topic

Recommended Posts

Martin

New York's Village Voice is shutting up and shutting down.

 

By Jenna Amatulli

The Village Voice, the iconic New York newspaper that became online-only last year, has shut down.

 

"Today is kind of a sucky day," said owner Pete Barbey in a phone call, according to audio obtained by Gothamist.

 

"Due to, basically, business realities, we're going to stop publishing Village Voice new material. About half the staff, it'll be last day today. About half the staff staying on to wind things down and to work on the archive project," Barbey reportedly said, referring to efforts to archive the Voice's content. https://www.huffingt...4b0cf7b0035833c

 

A statement from Barbey confirmed that the paper was indeed shuttering and recalled its illustrious history that "defined a new genre of publishing" and how it was "subject to the increasingly harsh economic realities facing those creating journalism and written media."

 

 

"The Village Voice was created to give speed to a cultural and social revolution, and its legacy and the voices that created that legacy are still relevant today. Perhaps more than ever," the statement said.

 

 

Barbey continued:

 

 

Its archives are an indispensable chronicle of history and social progress. Although the Voice will not continue publishing, we are dedicated to ensuring that its legacy will endure to inspire more generations of readers and writers to give even more speed to those same goals.

 

 

Edited by Martin

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ladybird

I used to read the Voice every week. At some point they gave them away (if you were downtown) which didn't make sense to me. There have been may wonderful writers over the years covering politics, art and music, especially jazz.

 

 

Sucks.. :(

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ben Cranklin

A sort of deviant’s bible in New York. Disgusting leftwad degeneracy in front, hooker ads in back (with photos). Like Screw magazine, only more pretense and less honesty.

 

Had been losing money since long before it became a free weekly that got its revenue (such as it was) from its advertising (i.e., the aforementioned hooker ads). A long, drawn out good bye whose final conclusion was long overdue.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
USNRETWIFE
yawn2.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
stick

Never heard of him.

 

RIP

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Dean Adam Smithee

I used to read the Voice every week. At some point they gave them away (if you were downtown) which didn't make sense to me. There have been may wonderful writers over the years covering politics, art and music, especially jazz.

 

 

Sucks.. :(

 

I've never read the Voice. Not being a New Yorker, much of it probably wouldn't mean anything to me anyway.

 

The West Coast equivalent in Portland Oregon was "Willamette Week". A "free" tabloid, paid for by ads including the obligatory ads in the back few pages for singles, hookers er "escorts" and massage services.

 

Like the VV, the WW has some great writers. Yes, of course, WW has a somewhat left editorial stance though stopping just short of "Full Leftard" (THAT ground is covered by the Portland Mercury, a competing free tabloid).

 

I liked WW because, unlike the MSM as a whole and especially "The Oregonian" which is the "offical" "establishment" newspaper in Portland and might as well be called "Portland Pravda", WW was reasonably non-partisan in going after corrupt politicians. Over the years they've broke several MAJOR stories that the MSM wouldn't touch. For instance:

 

In '04, WW's reporting for former-Governor Neil Goldschmidt's (D) misconduct with an underage girl forced his resignation from the Oregon Board of Higher education.

 

From Wikipedia:
On May 6, under pressure from Willamette Week, Goldschmidt publicly announced that he had engaged in a sexual relationship with a 14-year-old girl (the victim later indicated she was 13)[41] for an extended period during his first term as Mayor of Portland.[2] Sex with a person under 16 years of age constitutes third degree rape under Oregon law, a felony punishable by up to five years in prison.[42][43] By the time the relationship had become public, however, the statute of limitations had expired, making Goldschmidt immune from any prosecution over the matter.

 

Under Oregon law, Goldschmidt would have been required to register as a sex offender, had he been convicted of the crime of third degree rape.[44] The fact that the registration law didn't pass until 1997, after the illicit sexual relationship ended, would not have exempted him from registration.[45] Oregon case law has determined that the registration of offenders whose acts were committed prior to the passage of the law does not violate either Oregon's Constitution or the United States Constitution's prohibition on ex post facto laws.[46]

 

Goldschmidt's confessional letter[47] was published on the front page of The Oregonian. It differed from the Willamette Week's account, most notably in the length of the relationship ("nearly a year" according to Goldschmidt, but three years according to Willamette Week) and in Goldschmidt's use of the term "affair" to characterize it. The Oregonian was criticized for its coverage and use of the term "affair." Writers and editors at The Oregonian acknowledged mistakes in their handling of the story, but denied that a desire to protect Goldschmidt motivated the mistakes.[1]
The Willamette Week article, written by Nigel Jaquiss, was awarded the 2005 Pulitzer Prize for investigative reporting.
[48]

 

In '08 broke the story about then-Senator Gordon Smith ® hiring illegals at his "Smith Frozen Foods" plant despite publicly opposing such.

 

In '09 broke the story of gay mayor Sam Adams (D) prior 'relationship' with an underage male. Unfortunately this WAS Portland, and the attitude of most locals was, "Yeah, and...?"

 

In '14-'15, broke several stories of governor John Kitzhaber's corruption and "pay for play", leading to his resignation.

 

------------------------

 

Down south, this type of ad-sponsored tabloid is known as a "shopper". Though, given southern attitudes, generally fewer ads for hookers and more ads/coupons for local stores. The GREAT southern humorist and former Atlanta Journal-Constitution columnist Lewis Grizzard (R.I.P., '94) frequently spoke of getting his start writing articles for "Shoppers" in Georgia.

 

But, EVEN in Atlanta, I can't think of a single one that can hold a candle to NYC's VV or Portland's WW.

 

Following the alphabet, next in line would be Atlanta's XX. But I just can't think of a catchy title. (There is a local half-cut (printed booklet-style on 11x17 then folded in half to make 8-1/2x11 and stapled) called the "Brookhaven Buzz" or "BB" named after a northside neighborhood. They're good, but they've got a ways to go to be a VV or WW.)

 

Not sure why, but it seems to be a rule to have an alliterative double-letter name. Who am I to argue with tradition?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Hieronymous

The Detroit area has a similar paper called The Metro Times. Free, paid for by hooker and massage ads, writers who are mostly bitter, etc.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
grimreefer

Our local Thrifty Nickel is still alive and free... and probably more interesting. No hookers even. :whistling:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ticked@TinselTown
"Due to, basically, business realities, we're going to stop publishing Village Voice new material. About half the staff, it'll be last day today. About half the staff staying on to wind things down and to work on the archive project," Barbey reportedly said, referring to efforts to archive the Voice's content. https://www.huffingt...4b0cf7b0035833c

 

:biglaugh:

 

Aww, shucks! You meant that unicorn farts and idiotic idealism DON'T pay the bills?

 

Well, shidt, that means that all the rest of the leftard notions are doomed to failure... Once people stop providing a tax base for their idiocy, that is...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Rock N' Roll Right Winger

:biglaugh:

 

Aww, shucks! You meant that unicorn farts and idiotic idealism DON'T pay the bills?

 

Well, shidt, that means that all the rest of the leftard notions are doomed to failure... Once people stop providing a tax base for their idiocy, that is...

:high5:

 

I love watching yet another libtard proggy entity go away for good!

 

I wish the local libtard rag here would finish going broke and go away as well.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
stick

:biglaugh:

 

Aww, shucks! You meant that unicorn farts and idiotic idealism DON'T pay the bills?

 

Well, shidt, that means that all the rest of the leftard notions are doomed to failure... Once people stop providing a tax base for their idiocy, that is...

 

Incidentally, some wide-eyed, young, excited gal rang my doorbell last night (Friday night 8 pm, WTF) with OPB literature (Oregon Public Broadcasting) begging for donations. I really wasn’t in the mood to tell her I already support it with my tax dollars among other leftist causes so I politely said good night and closed the door - which was fairly difficult because she wouldn’t shut up.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Severian

Our local Thrifty Nickel is still alive and free... and probably more interesting. No hookers even. :whistling:

Well, you can't have everything.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ladybird

A sort of deviant’s bible in New York. Disgusting leftwad degeneracy in front, hooker ads in back (with photos). Like Screw magazine, only more pretense and less honesty.

 

Had been losing money since long before it became a free weekly that got its revenue (such as it was) from its advertising (i.e., the aforementioned hooker ads). A long, drawn out good bye whose final conclusion was long overdue.

Nat Hentoff, Stanley Crouch, Wayne Barrett, Robert Cristgua, Teresa Carpenter, and many more were hardly purveyors of degeneracy. The VV was gay friendly long before it was ok to be, and the personals were mighty raunchy, but I wouldn't put it in the same category as a skin magazine.

Edited by Ladybird

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ben Cranklin

Nat Hentoff, Stanley Crouch, Wayne Barrett, Robert Cristgua, Teresa Carpenter, and many more were hardly purveyors of degeneracy. The VV was gay friendly long before it was ok to be, and the personals were mighty raunchy, but I wouldn't put it in the same category as a skin magazine.

 

Apart from a vague sense of degenerate fellow traveler leftism, I wonder why you are even getting so defensive and affecting a personal connection to this particular rag; you didn't even seem to know that the VV was free everywhere (not just "...if you were downtown, which didn't make sense to [you]") from around '95 or '96 on, when it could no longer find enough young and foolish or old and unsavory types willing to pay a newsstand price for it (in fact, as history ultimately, indisputably showed, it couldn't even find enough readers when it was just being given away). This isn't the first time that I've suspected you aren't really from the city.

 

However, if there'a anything unjust about comparing the VV to Screw, it's that it's a little belittling to Screw; after all, Screw routinely had covers from illustrators like Danny Hellman and Tony Millionaire, whereas the VV, well, had Jules Feiffer recycling the same predictable, tired old cartoon week after week on part of one of the inner pages. And Screw, at least, was honest about what it was. Bottom line, both were vehicles for narcissistic left-leaning opinion and axe-grinding that was out of touch with middle America (or any other America, really), funded by pages and pages of sex ads. In fact, they were direct competitors, for the VV being one of many factors that helped to speed Screw out of business, due to all the sex advertising revenue the VV siphoned off (that's history, not opinion). The one difference was that in Screw's case the left-leaning and axe-grinding on its pages came mostly from the publisher himself, an unapologetically vulgar and unpresentable individual in this city's landscape, whereas for the VV they came from the rogues gallery you started to type out, whose false front of "respectability" was 1) based on the usual leftist-degenerates-giving-each-other-awards-and-accolades circle jerk, that 2) only other leftist degenerates would find impressive.

 

Anyway, whatever else you want to try to type, just remember it won't bring the VV (the Hustler of Leftists) back. Mercifully, both it and Screw are now gone forever.

Edited by Ben Cranklin

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ladybird

I never said I lived in the NYC. I worked there and various close family live in The Bronx. I’m from NJ and Westchester where the paper was not free. My sister worked there in the seventies. There are many newspapers around the country that are suffering a similar fate, which has nothing to do with lefty politcs, so spare me your indignation and smug satisfaction over people losing their jobs.

 

And I loved Pfeiffer.

Edited by Ladybird

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Dean Adam Smithee

Apart from a vague sense of degenerate fellow traveler leftism, I wonder why you are even getting so defensive and affecting a personal connection to this particular rag; you didn't even seem to know that the VV was free everywhere (not just "...if you were downtown, which didn't make sense to [you]") from around '95 or '96 on, when it could no longer find enough young and foolish or old and unsavory types willing to pay a newsstand price for it (in fact, as history ultimately, indisputably showed, it couldn't even find enough readers when it was just being given away). This isn't the first time that I've suspected you aren't really from the city.

 

However, if there'a anything unjust about comparing the VV to Screw, it's that it's a little belittling to Screw; after all, Screw routinely had covers from illustrators like Danny Hellman and Tony Millionaire, whereas the VV, well, had Jules Feiffer recycling the same predictable, tired old cartoon week after week on part of one of the inner pages. And Screw, at least, was honest about what it was. Bottom line, both were vehicles for narcissistic left-leaning opinion and axe-grinding that was out of touch with middle America (or any other America, really), funded by pages and pages of sex ads. In fact, they were direct competitors, for the VV being one of many factors that helped to speed Screw out of business, due to all the sex advertising revenue the VV siphoned off (that's history, not opinion). The one difference was that in Screw's case the left-leaning and axe-grinding on its pages came mostly from the publisher himself, an unapologetically vulgar and unpresentable individual in this city's landscape, whereas for the VV they came from the rogues gallery you started to type out, whose false front of "respectability" was 1) based on the usual leftist-degenerates-giving-each-other-awards-and-accolades circle jerk, that 2) only other leftist degenerates would find impressive.

 

Anyway, whatever else you want to try to type, just remember it won't bring the VV (the Hustler of Leftists) back. Mercifully, both it and Screw are now gone forever.

 

I disagree, Ben.

 

Screw, in the day, was "porno", the other was "artsy". Yeah, I can buy that. Sort of like the difference between Playboy and Penthouse back in the '70s. With one, you could "appreciate" the female body as an art form. With the other, you could almost study for an exam in Gynecology 101.

 

I liked a thing or two that Al Goldstein had to say back then, but not generally a "follower". I mean, appreciating the female body as an "Art form" is one thing; Having to shove your D!ck into every possible opportunity is ANOTHER thing entirely. I'm not sure that Al Goldstein ever "grokked" the difference.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ben Cranklin

I never said I lived in the NYC. I worked there and various close family live in The Bronx. I’m from NJ and Westchester where the paper was not free. My sister worked there in the seventies. There are many newspapers around the country that are suffering a similar fate, which has nothing to do with lefty politcs, so spare me your indignation and smug satisfaction over people losing their jobs.

 

Why should I spare you anything when you, perhaps the biggest trial of anyone's patience on an otherwise nice and wholesome site, spare no one around here? So...read it, eat it, love it. And find a new place to scan hooker ads. I heard Craig's List might have some. :comfort:

 

And I loved Pfeiffer.

 

Of course you did, and not surprising in that you probably know even less about illustration and cartooning than you do about NYC.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Hercules

Our local Thrifty Nickel is still alive and free... and probably more interesting. No hookers even. :whistling:

 

It has been ages since Hookers were a Nickle!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ben Cranklin

I disagree, Ben.

 

Screw, in the day, was "porno", the other was "artsy". Yeah, I can buy that. Sort of like the difference between Playboy and Penthouse back in the '70s. With one, you could "appreciate" the female body as an art form. With the other, you could almost study for an exam in Gynecology 101.

 

I liked a thing or two that Al Goldstein had to say back then, but not generally a "follower". I mean, appreciating the female body as an "Art form" is one thing; Having to shove your D!ck into every possible opportunity is ANOTHER thing entirely. I'm not sure that Al Goldstein ever "grokked" the difference.

 

Screw was no Penthouse, which I remember as having top models, or at least ones airbrushed to look like top models. Screw was stocked with a bunch of really old, grainy, not at all erotic black and white photos that Goldstein bought cheap when he first started and then just kept reusing for decades. Anyone buying Screw expecting to get off on its own erotic content was bound to be disappointed. What Screw provided its readers was a listing, complete with reviews and ratings, of the city's sex theaters, peep shows, and whorehouses, like a Consumer Reports of paid-for-sex, where these readers would then go to get off. The other part of Screw was Goldstein's stream of consciousness about First Amendment issues, politics, and personal feuds he was pursuing. In fact, that was another reason for its folding: as he got older, Goldstein cared less and less about making a magazine that males would find erotic than he did about just having a vehicle from which to spout off about whatever was on his mind, including publishing the home addresses and phone numbers of his enemies, exhorting his readers to go on campaigns of harassment. Shrinking numbers of established sex houses to list, review, and rate, less and less advertising even from private contractor dial-a-hookers who were turning to the Village Voice and something called The New York Press (another alternative weekly that had a relatively long run of its own), and more and more pages of a fat old guy's grudges and ramblings made the magazine less and less viable.

 

Goldstein also had a cable public access TV show that ran for some 30 years called Midnight Blue. It was a lot like his magazine;; less and less sex, more and more politics and vituperation towards enemies.

 

However repulsive he could otherwise be, Goldstein was still an interesting character and an intelligent, articulate man in his way, though naturally hard to agree with. With your history of managing strip clubs and the like, I think you'd be interested if you read more about his life, especially his final days. There's a lot of articles online about it. Even I found it interesting reading, if I've somehow given the impression of being a prude about all this.

Edited by Ben Cranklin

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
MTP Reggie

Good riddance. I'm sure they'll all find

.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Severian

The biggest difference between "art" and porn is where you put the cucumber. :eyebrows:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Diamond369

That is messed up. Too bad I never read the Village Voice.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Dean Adam Smithee

The biggest difference between "art" and porn is where you put the cucumber. :eyebrows:

 

"Fetish" is if you use the feathers. "Pervert" is if you use the whole duck.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...