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Warren releases results of DNA test (Merged)

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satellite66

Trump should get a DNA test that says he is native American, black and hispanic :whistling:

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GrimV

Wow, 1/1024th. That’s...that’s not a very high number. In fact, I’d say it qualifies as a “low number”. A very “low number”. And yet the Party of Science will still shriek vindication. The same Party of Science who said this man was white:

 

 

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zurg

Vanessa Williams is supposedly 12% Finnish by DNA analysis, but she doesn’t know anyone in her family history with that contribution. And that would have to be just three generations ago.

 

DNA relation to ethnicity isn’t foolproof. And even if it were, bragging about 1% (or less) heritage is as making someone authentically part of that 1% is really dumb. It’s Ocasio-Cortez level dumb.

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Taggart Transcontinental

That Harvard Law claimed her as their "first woman of color" tells you everything you need to know about their true opinions of diversity.

 

Yeah and Bill Clinton was the first black President too.

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Shaky McSelfie

Did she just invoke the one drop rule? Well, that’s odd.

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GrimV

This is too delicious to pass up. Found this NYT quote at Hot Air: “The researchers found that European-Americans had genomes that were on average 98.6 percent European, .19 percent African, and .18 Native American.”

 

1/1024 would place her at .10 Native American. Which means, “ Fauxcahontas is less native than the typical white American.“

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firecoco

The Boston Globe had to run a correction...In other words they lied

 

Princess Grey Beaver is 1/1024 percent Native American ...That means she has no more Native American blood in her than I do....Nothing

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AnnieGotHerGun

I was told once to prove Native American Ancestry one had to have a formal family tree, with legitimate documents (i.e. birth certificates/documentation), that one could not rely on DNA for true heritage purposes. The DNA markers may be consistant, but what those markers prove heritage-wise is another story. From the beginning of time clans/tribes/groups of people have moved around to safer places, places with more food, places with better weather, getting away from harpie mother in laws, whatever.

 

Warren may have been mislead by a family member. I was, too. My great grandmother on my mother's side hated my father, she always called him 'that damned dago'. We grew up thinking my father was Italian. He wasn't, he was Hungarian. His folks emigrated from Hungary in the late 20's. My father looked Italian, so maybe my great grandmother just assumed he was, we'll never know. So while I personally know how getting our heritage information from relatives can be misleading, before one puts it out there publicly, especially benefiting from it in some way, one should have it verified. My birth mother's folks came from Ireland. And yeah, they pretty much look Irish with a bit of dark hair thrown in. I personally don't care. I'm an American. That's all I really need to know.

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zurg

Lizzie “Failure-Of-Fractions” Warren has dug herself a deep hole.

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HardRightBambi

This is too delicious to pass up. Found this NYT quote at Hot Air: “The researchers found that European-Americans had genomes that were on average 98.6 percent European, .19 percent African, and .18 Native American.”

 

1/1024 would place her at .10 Native American. Which means, “ Fauxcahontas is less native than the typical white American.“

 

 

There was a long standing verbal tradition in my family that stipulated three native American tribes were intermixed in my family: the story was Cherokee, Chickasaw, and Choctaw. One DNA test later and I'm approximately 0/000% native American-anything. Dad had a serious case of the jaws about it. I still can't tell you why this is such an important thing.

 

Warren doesn't deal in facts and like all liberal ilk, doesn't like to allow fact to get in the way of a freight train-driven idealist agenda.

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Ladybird

I was told once to prove Native American Ancestry one had to have a formal family tree, with legitimate documents (i.e. birth certificates/documentation), that one could not rely on DNA for true heritage purposes. The DNA markers may be consistant, but what those markers prove heritage-wise is another story. From the beginning of time clans/tribes/groups of people have moved around to safer places, places with more food, places with better weather, getting away from harpie mother in laws, whatever.

 

Warren may have been mislead by a family member. I was, too. My great grandmother on my mother's side hated my father, she always called him 'that damned dago'. We grew up thinking my father was Italian. He wasn't, he was Hungarian. His folks emigrated from Hungary in the late 20's. My father looked Italian, so maybe my great grandmother just assumed he was, we'll never know. So while I personally know how getting our heritage information from relatives can be misleading, before one puts it out there publicly, especially benefiting from it in some way, one should have it verified. My birth mother's folks came from Ireland. And yeah, they pretty much look Irish with a bit of dark hair thrown in. I personally don't care. I'm an American. That's all I really need to know.

Maybe she thought it meant Hungarian.

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AnnieGotHerGun

Maybe she thought it meant Hungarian.

That's my sis n law's take, that she didn't know the difference. Like I said, we'll never know.

If we're going on looks, this same great grandmother could have claimed a Native American lineage. Very high cheekbones that were passed all the way down to me, my daughters not so much. I just figure they came from some ancestral Neanderthal.

Elizabeth Warren was naive, or maybe too arrogant, in thinking folks would not fact-check her. Now she's in a deep hole. And I honestly doubt this 'report' will change anyone's mind, one way or the other. Her supporters will continue to support her, and those of us that do not like her will continue to feel that way, just more so as she's now been proven to be an embellisher of the truth.

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oki

Hmmmm.... so does this mean every white person who has at least some amount of African D.N.A. can know be entitled to affirmative action?

Or is it skin tone based? A former co worker always had fun with this type of stuff. The man was white as a ghost, hell looked a bit like McCaully Culkin, but yet had Oneida Nation license plate frames on his car. I asked about it once and he said that he had just enough lineage to 'qualify' as a member. But, he did it mostly just to mess with people.

 

Let people be defined by who they are as an individual, not their D.N.A. Isn't that how it's supposed to work?

 

 

Oki

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HardRightBambi

Lizzie “Failure-Of-Fractions” Warren has dug herself a deep hole.

 

She is who we thought she was.

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gravelrash

Lizzie “Failure-Of-Fractions” Warren has dug herself a deep hole.

 

This test is proof that socialists are bad at math. It's in their DNA.

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Ladybird

Hmmmm.... so does this mean every white person who has at least some amount of African D.N.A. can know be entitled to affirmative action?

Or is it skin tone based? A former co worker always had fun with this type of stuff. The man was white as a ghost, hell looked a bit like McCaully Culkin, but yet had Oneida Nation license plate frames on his car. I asked about it once and he said that he had just enough lineage to 'qualify' as a member. But, he did it mostly just to mess with people.

 

Let people be defined by who they are as an individual, not their D.N.A. Isn't that how it's supposed to work?

 

 

Oki

Unless it was listed that way on your birth certificate, I don't think so.

Of course you could try to change it, like this woman (but in reverse) .

https://www.nytimes.com/1982/09/15/us/slave-descendant-fights-race-listing.html

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oki

Unless it was listed that way on your birth certificate, I don't think so.

Of course you could try to change it, like this woman (but in reverse) .

https://www.nytimes.com/1982/09/15/us/slave-descendant-fights-race-listing.html

 

So what is the minimum amount of D.N.A. to be able to claim you are X? Many people don't even know there entire lineage, and even then it's not always accurate. I am able to trace all my ancestors(both moms and dads) right back to Russia and Germany. Does that mean that I couldn't have a smidge or two of African D.N.A. in there somewhere? Just as it's also possible my wife despite being from Japan could have an ounce or two of European D.N.A. in there as well. This is a big reason why many of the Indian Tribes in the U.S. have set minimum standards to be able to obtain status or membership. Then again much of this simply boils down to people who want something for nothing and think this is an easy way to get it. For years and years no one seemed to give a damn about having native blood unless they looked Indian, then, all the sudden when numerous Tribes and Reservations started opening Casino's and paying out to members there was a sudden interest in seeing if you where part Indian.

 

Oki

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Ladybird

So what is the minimum amount of D.N.A. to be able to claim you are X? Many people don't even know there entire lineage, and even then it's not always accurate. I am able to trace all my ancestors(both moms and dads) right back to Russia and Germany. Does that mean that I couldn't have a smidge or two of African D.N.A. in there somewhere? Just as it's also possible my wife despite being from Japan could have an ounce or two of European D.N.A. in there as well. This is a big reason why many of the Indian Tribes in the U.S. have set minimum standards to be able to obtain status or membership. Then again much of this simply boils down to people who want something for nothing and think this is an easy way to get it. For years and years no one seemed to give a damn about having native blood unless they looked Indian, then, all the sudden when numerous Tribes and Reservations started opening Casino's and paying out to members there was a sudden interest in seeing if you where part Indian.

 

Oki

 

Sure is..

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oki

 

So then, I guess Ethnic Background and Racial identity should no longer be taken into account when awarding Gov contracts or jobs?

 

Oki

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Wag-a-Muffin (D)

Same here. My great great grandmother was Irish and Seminole. I have a picture of her. That’s just my mother’s side, there’s much more on my father’s. The dna test showed a mish mosh of African and European ancestors, and 7% under the category ‘Asian’.

 

 

Has Warren claimed any tribal benefits or taken a scholarship away from a native American?

Elizabeth Warren self-identified as a "Native American" in the The Association of American Law Schools Directory of law professors in every edition printed between 1986 -1995.

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oki

Elizabeth Warren self-identified as a "Native American" in the The Association of American Law Schools Directory of law professors in every edition printed between 1986 -1995.

 

 

Reminds me of how a certain someone applied to College and had no problem listing himself as, then magically when he ran for office all this nearly disappeared or wasn't supposed to be treated as all that important.

 

Oki

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Liz

Even if she were telling the absolute truth about her heritage from the beginning, which we know she wasn't, she still wouldn't be qualified to hold public office. :shrug:

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BootsieBets

When the commercials started to be shown for all the different DNA kits, I thought it was a little sad that now we are trying to figure out what we are by blood so we can further divide ourselves into groups. Don’t get me wrong, if you have a strong heritage and you follow traditions that your family has had for generations, that is a strong bond. On the other hand, to go to a DNA kit and suddenly find out that you are 1/24th of some kind of ethnicity that you have had no knowledge of is sort of silly. Then there are the stories of family origins that have no reality to them but seem to hang on, like the one Warren has peddled.

 

My mother’s parents were both Swedish and so we have lot’s of Swedish food and customs and stories that come from her side of the family. My father, however, was actually adopted and although the family was English, Irish and Welsh, they didn’t have any real traditions from the “old country” anyway. My siblings and I have talked about getting a DNA test for medical reasons but if we found out if my dad was an ethnic heritage other than what we thought, would it make any difference? I don’t think so. He was who he was and we are who we are because of what we believe in and our character, not because of something in our blood.

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Noclevermoniker

I was told once to prove Native American Ancestry one had to have a formal family tree, with legitimate documents (i.e. birth certificates/documentation), that one could not rely on DNA for true heritage purposes. The DNA markers may be consistant, but what those markers prove heritage-wise is another story. From the beginning of time clans/tribes/groups of people have moved around to safer places, places with more food, places with better weather, getting away from harpie mother in laws, whatever.

 

 

She claims Cherokee heritage. Well, you're not Cherokee unless they say you are, because of the bolded above. "High cheek bones" aren't provenance, else most Asians could claim membership.

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GrimV

"High cheek bones" aren't provenance, else most Asians could claim membership.

 

So could Scandinavians, for the exact same reason.

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