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Eddie Gallagher Trial Bombshell: SEAL Team Seven Medic Claims HE Kille

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Ladybird

If you’re so bothered by the killings of helpless people, why don’t you constantly post about black people (including children) being shot by other black people in American cities (like Chicago)?

 

Never mind the subject, what about those black people?

 

This is pretty freakin lame.

 

She still also holds to Islam is a peaceful religion. So killing helpless people is not her strong stance

 

I am not the subject of this thread.

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Taggart Transcontinental

We're supposed to be better than them. But fine. Several other service members testified that they saw not only him stab this ISIS teen and then take a picture of the body, but shoot at civilians.

 

In a combat zone where people pick up and drop weapons in a second please define "civilian". In Iraq children were used to detonate IEDs, they were sent to retrieve weapons. They were running messages from fighter to fighter. That makes them combatants. I am curious if you were walking down the streets of Fallujah and some child began to throw a grenade at your people would you shoot that kid?

 

You are shooting at a "civilian" but that isn't really the case, the child has become a combatant. In the aftermath when that kid is a corpse there is no proof, just some clown with a camera claiming the kid wasn't doing a thing. You have to know what that Soldier knew at the moment that Soldier pulled the trigger in order to know what happened, not hindsight, not hearsay, not some fantastic claim by someone fed up and willing to make stories up in order to get out of a position they don't like.

 

Secondly, people dealing with death react to it differently. When faced with death some cry, some laugh some respond violently and attack and others fold like a paper bag. I was flying a mission in Iraq, and had just dropped off an Admiral at one of our bases, we were taking off and climbed over a T-wall on the way to get gas when 2 mortar rounds detonated around our aircraft, one landed under us on the T-wall about 30 feet from us, and the other missed by 300 meters. The aircraft shook, my Pilot in Command for this mission was a female Captain, she started laughing with an evil laugh, my response was to throw my hand out the door of our aircraft and toss the enemy the bird. My crew chiefs screamed, the outboard one actually saw the round slide through our rotor system and strike the wall.

 

All of us had our own response to that engagement. Until you been there and done that, you have no idea or understanding of what these people go through. PTSD? Damn right they all have it. I don't because I never had a problem doing what I had to do there. Nor did I get into any truly horrific crap, most of my "events" were short lived and high peak then nothing, on the other hand these people SEALs and the like are all high peak long term. When that happens you do things that are odd. Like taking pictures of your "kills" or posing with them. That's human nature and goes all the way back to when we took scalps of our fallen enemies, most of the time as they lay dying on the ground. It's barbaric, cruel and demeaning to the enemy. But that enemy also had a choice, they could have chose to not engage those troops in combat, they could have chosen instead to live within the rules they fought against. None of these people on either side are victims of anything, they were warriors and died. That happens, as does the reaction of those that were victors in the fight. If you can't accept that then stop sending them into combat, and be prepared to be a true victim, one who is oppressed and unwilling to do any thing about it.

 

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Taggart Transcontinental

The stabbing didn't occur in a fire fight. This ISIS teen was already injured and was a prisoner of war.

 

The "stabbing" occurred because the guy was trying to put in an improvised airway, it's called a trachea tube and when the airway is compromised then that's what you do. That was the original story before someone came out and said he stabbed him.

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Ladybird

In a combat zone where people pick up and drop weapons in a second please define "civilian". In Iraq children were used to detonate IEDs, they were sent to retrieve weapons. They were running messages from fighter to fighter. That makes them combatants. I am curious if you were walking down the streets of Fallujah and some child began to throw a grenade at your people would you shoot that kid?

 

You are shooting at a "civilian" but that isn't really the case, the child has become a combatant. In the aftermath when that kid is a corpse there is no proof, just some clown with a camera claiming the kid wasn't doing a thing. You have to know what that Soldier knew at the moment that Soldier pulled the trigger in order to know what happened, not hindsight, not hearsay, not some fantastic claim by someone fed up and willing to make stories up in order to get out of a position they don't like.

 

Secondly, people dealing with death react to it differently. When faced with death some cry, some laugh some respond violently and attack and others fold like a paper bag. I was flying a mission in Iraq, and had just dropped off an Admiral at one of our bases, we were taking off and climbed over a T-wall on the way to get gas when 2 mortar rounds detonated around our aircraft, one landed under us on the T-wall about 30 feet from us, and the other missed by 300 meters. The aircraft shook, my Pilot in Command for this mission was a female Captain, she started laughing with an evil laugh, my response was to throw my hand out the door of our aircraft and toss the enemy the bird. My crew chiefs screamed, the outboard one actually saw the round slide through our rotor system and strike the wall.

 

All of us had our own response to that engagement. Until you been there and done that, you have no idea or understanding of what these people go through. PTSD? Damn right they all have it. I don't because I never had a problem doing what I had to do there. Nor did I get into any truly horrific crap, most of my "events" were short lived and high peak then nothing, on the other hand these people SEALs and the like are all high peak long term. When that happens you do things that are odd. Like taking pictures of your "kills" or posing with them. That's human nature and goes all the way back to when we took scalps of our fallen enemies, most of the time as they lay dying on the ground. It's barbaric, cruel and demeaning to the enemy. But that enemy also had a choice, they could have chose to not engage those troops in combat, they could have chosen instead to live within the rules they fought against. None of these people on either side are victims of anything, they were warriors and died. That happens, as does the reaction of those that were victors in the fight. If you can't accept that then stop sending them into combat, and be prepared to be a true victim, one who is oppressed and unwilling to do any thing about it.

 

So there should be no rules of engagement? I'm not the one accusing this man, it's coming from his own team members.

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Taggart Transcontinental

Stabbing an injured prisoner in US custody is ok? I guess that's considered heroic these days.

 

How about shooting Iraqi civilians?

 

So lets see, "you guys missed him but I got him", was stated over the radio. Do you know that it isn't customary to send "warning shots" at a person? Do you also know that it is not customary for people to not respond to warning shots if they are given? This just sounds like BS. If I were sitting there and saw my partners miss on a shot I would have also fired. ROE requires POSITIVE ID before firing at a target. Thus if your friends fired at a target and missed you would probably fire on that target and hit it.

 

The defense said the testimony was unreliable because no witness reported seeing Gallagher pull the trigger.

 

Secondly, this isn't cop audio, there are no body cams, it's just hearsay again. ISIS was in the area, maybe they shot him, is there forensic proof that this guy murdered him? Another point, if this man was on a murder streak wouldn't there be more cases coming out? Why just a knifing and shooting of this man? If he was a truly out of control murderer then the body count would be through the roof. This man was a walking terminator, with hundreds of kills. Wouldn't more of them be like this?

 

 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=S06nIz4scvI

 

The claims don't add up.

 

 

 

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Ladybird

The "stabbing" occurred because the guy was trying to put in an improvised airway, it's called a trachea tube and when the airway is compromised then that's what you do. That was the original story before someone came out and said he stabbed him.

 

Gallagher was putting in a trachea tube and stabbed him by accident? I never heard that account before.

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Squirrel

So there should be no rules of engagement? I'm not the one accusing this man, it's coming from his own team members.

So now you know the rules of engagement for the millitary? Yes there are rules of engagement and even a small thing called the geneva convention. Most anyone that served there knows them still. But I’m sure you can tell us which ones he has broken and violated. I’d be interested if you even know them or was that just a talking point? You seemed interested enough in this case to post the artical. So please share your knowledge and opinions.

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Ladybird

So lets see, "you guys missed him but I got him", was stated over the radio. Do you know that it isn't customary to send "warning shots" at a person? Do you also know that it is not customary for people to not respond to warning shots if they are given? This just sounds like BS. If I were sitting there and saw my partners miss on a shot I would have also fired. ROE requires POSITIVE ID before firing at a target. Thus if your friends fired at a target and missed you would probably fire on that target and hit it.

 

 

 

Secondly, this isn't cop audio, there are no body cams, it's just hearsay again. ISIS was in the area, maybe they shot him, is there forensic proof that this guy murdered him? Another point, if this man was on a murder streak wouldn't there be more cases coming out? Why just a knifing and shooting of this man? If he was a truly out of control murderer then the body count would be through the roof. This man was a walking terminator, with hundreds of kills. Wouldn't more of them be like this?

 

 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=S06nIz4scvI

 

The claims don't add up.

 

That will be up to the jury. I don't want to see anyone punished unfairly, but I'm an American so it matters to me what is done in our name.

 

So now you know the rules of engagement for the millitary? Yes there are rules of engagement and even a small thing called the geneva convention. Most anyone that served there knows them still. But I’m sure you can tell us which ones he has broken and violated. I’d be interested if you even know them or was that just a talking point? You seemed interested enough in this case to post the artical. So please share your knowledge and opinions.

 

I am not the subject of this thread.

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Taggart Transcontinental

So there should be no rules of engagement? I'm not the one accusing this man, it's coming from his own team members.

 

Rules of engagement should not be known by the enemy, you should not need to get a person's name when they are shooting at you (being facetious here). When We went into Iraq initially the ROE was there but it was manageable, however as the thing turned into peace operations our forces faced more and more strenuous rules that often put our troops at risk. It was like having a lawyer in the foxhole with you so to speak. During the Obama era, you were more likely to be scrutinized by the chain of command for defending yourself than firing back in some cases.

 

We weren't allowed to test fire our weapons on mission in my third deployment, this means that if you had to use the gun in combat you had no idea if it would work. There were sometimes problems with them jamming during engagements, though the M240s were much more reliable than the M60d's.

 

Notice nowhere in my commentary up there did I say that being a combat troop should be a murderfest free for all. ROE is good when it's applied correctly, on the other hand when it's applied with lawyers that are nowhere near the fight, it is not. Those closest to the fight often times know what is happening and whether a shoot was good. Prosecuting an engagement from 8000 miles away isn't the right answer. This is nothing more than people engaging in a disagreement through the military court system. There are indications of coordination of stories. Whether this guy is guilty or not will never be proven at this point, the evidence has been tainted beyond belief. This is nothing at this point more than a hit job.

 

Funny for me, it's like the opposite of the Kerry debacle where you were defending that chucklehead against peers that stated he was nothing but a malingerer and self promoter, whereas here this guy is a war criminal.

 

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Squirrel

That will be up to the jury. I don't want to see anyone punished unfairly, but I'm an American so it matters to me what is done in our name.

 

 

 

I am not the subject of this thread.

 

So you post a thread and asking why is off limits? Asking you to back up your posts is off limits? Asking for your opinion on your statements is off limits? Because that makes you the subject or because you can’t answer? New deflection strategy?

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Taggart Transcontinental

Gallagher was putting in a trachea tube and stabbed him by accident? I never heard that account before.

 

The initial account was that he was working on opening the airway.

 

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/helmet-cam-footage-clears-navy-seal-accused-killing-isis-fighter-lawyer-56307

"It shows that Chief Gallagher's immediate reaction was not to murder him but rather to help him," Parlatore told Task & Purpose on Monday. "After all that, why would he take out his knife and stab him?"

 

You never heard the information before because the prosecution suppressed the evidence.

 

 

"In this video, you see the Iraqi partner forces dragging this half-dead terrorist off the hood of the Humvee … Eddie coming over, taking charge, clearing everybody away; the ISIS guy is now down the ground; Eddie pulls out his medical kit and starts assessing his injuries to perform first aid," Parlatore said. "That's all that's in the video."

 

If you are going to murder someone why assess their wounds? I read somewhere else that I can't find he was working on a trachea.

 

 

 

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There was a great line in the movie Full Metal Jacket....Joker is riding in the helicopter and the door gunner is shooting at water buffalo and then the door gunner sees a woman and child running and he starts shooting at them

 

Joker says to the door gunner....How can you shoot women and children?

 

Door gunner to Joker...."I don't lead them as much"

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Ladybird

The initial account was that he was working on opening the airway.

 

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/helmet-cam-footage-clears-navy-seal-accused-killing-isis-fighter-lawyer-56307

 

 

You never heard the information before because the prosecution suppressed the evidence.

 

 

 

 

If you are going to murder someone why assess their wounds? I read somewhere else that I can't find he was working on a trachea.

 

That should have been presented, if true. At least it's grounds for an appeal if this trial goes to the prosecution.

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Never mind the subject, what about those black people?

 

This is pretty freakin lame.

You’re missing the point: you’ve already decided that this soldier is guilty. Let’s hear the evidence. Also, you seem unmoved by context. Does it matter or does it not matter what was going on? I haven’t heard what the young man who died was up to.

 

Do you not think that war is different than regular life? I only protest the fact that you’re very quick to throw an American soldier under the bus but comparatively don’t have the same attitude towards inner city killers.

 

Is that because it’s just easier for you to assume our soldiers are bad people?

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Severian

In a combat zone where people pick up and drop weapons in a second please define "civilian". In Iraq children were used to detonate IEDs, they were sent to retrieve weapons. They were running messages from fighter to fighter. That makes them combatants. I am curious if you were walking down the streets of Fallujah and some child began to throw a grenade at your people would you shoot that kid?

 

You are shooting at a "civilian" but that isn't really the case, the child has become a combatant. In the aftermath when that kid is a corpse there is no proof, just some clown with a camera claiming the kid wasn't doing a thing. You have to know what that Soldier knew at the moment that Soldier pulled the trigger in order to know what happened, not hindsight, not hearsay, not some fantastic claim by someone fed up and willing to make stories up in order to get out of a position they don't like.

 

Secondly, people dealing with death react to it differently. When faced with death some cry, some laugh some respond violently and attack and others fold like a paper bag. I was flying a mission in Iraq, and had just dropped off an Admiral at one of our bases, we were taking off and climbed over a T-wall on the way to get gas when 2 mortar rounds detonated around our aircraft, one landed under us on the T-wall about 30 feet from us, and the other missed by 300 meters. The aircraft shook, my Pilot in Command for this mission was a female Captain, she started laughing with an evil laugh, my response was to throw my hand out the door of our aircraft and toss the enemy the bird. My crew chiefs screamed, the outboard one actually saw the round slide through our rotor system and strike the wall.

 

All of us had our own response to that engagement. Until you been there and done that, you have no idea or understanding of what these people go through. PTSD? Damn right they all have it. I don't because I never had a problem doing what I had to do there. Nor did I get into any truly horrific crap, most of my "events" were short lived and high peak then nothing, on the other hand these people SEALs and the like are all high peak long term. When that happens you do things that are odd. Like taking pictures of your "kills" or posing with them. That's human nature and goes all the way back to when we took scalps of our fallen enemies, most of the time as they lay dying on the ground. It's barbaric, cruel and demeaning to the enemy. But that enemy also had a choice, they could have chose to not engage those troops in combat, they could have chosen instead to live within the rules they fought against. None of these people on either side are victims of anything, they were warriors and died. That happens, as does the reaction of those that were victors in the fight. If you can't accept that then stop sending them into combat, and be prepared to be a true victim, one who is oppressed and unwilling to do any thing about it.

Bravo! Spoken like a man who's been there and who has both experience and common sense.

 

So now you know the rules of engagement for the millitary? Yes there are rules of engagement and even a small thing called the geneva convention. Most anyone that served there knows them still. But I’m sure you can tell us which ones he has broken and violated. I’d be interested if you even know them or was that just a talking point? You seemed interested enough in this case to post the artical. So please share your knowledge and opinions.

What people forget is that the Geneva Convention and other such agreements are a carrot/stick thing. They guarantee, supposedly, that if your country signs them and abides by them we will do the same. We don't have to treat you according to the Convention if you are not a signatory and don't treat our people in accordance with the convention, especially if you're a non-state actor, not part of a formal uniformed military. For example, the Hague Convention restricts the use of hollow point ammunition, but the Taliban and ISIS and such are not covered by it, being non-state actors, and as such we can use whatever ammo we want, and we never sighed the Hague anyway.

 

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Squirrel

Bravo! Spoken like a man who's been there and who has both experience and common sense.

 

 

What people forget is that the Geneva Convention and other such agreements are a carrot/stick thing. They guarantee, supposedly, that if your country signs them and abides by them we will do the same. We don't have to treat you according to the Convention if you are not a signatory and don't treat our people in accordance with the convention, especially if you're a non-state actor, not part of a formal uniformed military. For example, the Hague Convention restricts the use of hollow point ammunition, but the Taliban and ISIS and such are not covered by it, being non-state actors, and as such we can use whatever ammo we want, and we never sighed the Hague anyway.

 

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I’m aware of all that. Rules of engagement just lock in a loss when the other side does not follow them. There is nothing pretty about war. Prior to the gulf there was a standing joke among tankers. You are not allowed to shoot at paratroopers in the air. But if it ever comes to that tell them you were shooting at thier equipment. Rules are a big part of why we never finished and won a war after Korea and that was a draw. That and the fact we won’t make a long term commitment. How long have we had forces in Germany? I know I was in Berlin when the wall fell and I received the he ww2 medal of occupation for being there. You either go in a country finish a fight and stay long term or you don’t go. The biggest issue with gulf one was stopping and not rolling all the way to Iraq and then staying.

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Taggart Transcontinental

There was a great line in the movie Full Metal Jacket....Joker is riding in the helicopter and the door gunner is shooting at water buffalo and then the door gunner sees a woman and child running and he starts shooting at them

 

Joker says to the door gunner....How can you shoot women and children?

 

Door gunner to Joker...."I don't lead them as much"

 

Yeah i linked that but it didn't work.

 

That should have been presented, if true. At least it's grounds for an appeal if this trial goes to the prosecution.

 

Not in courts martial, they are horrible compared to the American court system, suppression of evidence is common place.

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NH Populist

LB, your knowledge of the subject at hand disqualifies you from arguing with posters here who've been there. You completely missed the point in my last post, completely! Maybe go back and read it again, I'm not about to explain it...

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Taggart Transcontinental

That should have been presented, if true. At least it's grounds for an appeal if this trial goes to the prosecution.

 

Here is the problematic statement. Should have been presented, IF TRUE. Do you believe that all the evidence presented by the state is true? Do you believe that the state would never prosecute an innocent man? Funny if this were a black man in the city of detroit you would be stating without a doubt that he's innocent and that the "state" is making a false case. Yet because it is a military court then it's obviously from your perspective TRUE.

Realize that people have agenda's, that includes the "witnesses", the enemy, the prosecution, the defense, the courts, the commanders, the judge, and the Jury. The reality is there is a truth out there you and I are not privy to. That is the absolute truth of what happened. In reality in most cases there is no absolute truth revealed. One side or the other reveals what they believe happened and a jury looks at that from their bias and they either let the person walk or they throw the book at them. We have an imperfect system, but it's all we have.

 

Now I want you to understand something else.

 

When a Soldier is KIA or MIA from a combat zone you know nothing, about the facts of that Soldier. Specifically how they died and what they were doing when they died, all you get is a number. You have no idea what those animals were doing over there to their own people and to ours. We lost many personnel in Iraq.

 

https://www.cnn.com/...acts/index.html

What you will never know is the condition of the body when found. Reason? Dehumanization of the enemy is against Geneva Convention.

 

https://www.news.com...5d54858e80e69c7

Soldiers were tortured, and murdered plain and simple.

Photos given to the news media show a filthy bed wired to an electrical system, with an outlet hanging from wires on the wall. Other photos show an entrance to the underground bunker and barbed wire stretched outside it.

 

You cannot imagine the things found in these places and they were all over the place. Battery operated drills, and other implements, people were slowly murdered over days and weeks. Everyone of those cells knew what would happen to someone when they were captured, they KNEW it because everyone in ISIS was trained and had to witness it so they could understand that the enemy deserved this. So cry me a river about the poor "kid" that was murdered. You know nothing of the body count he wracked up, nor do I. He was a combatant, he was fighting and he died. But he didn't end up in some basement bunker slowly being drilled into or shocked to within an inch of his life over and over to finally be drug outside and have his head slowly hacked off by some murderous thug screaming god is greater.

 

You and others hide behind the walls that men and women die to protect, you then cast your slings at the honor of those that defend you against threats you are too afraid to stand up against yourself and claim we are the monsters.

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Here is the problematic statement. Should have been presented, IF TRUE. Do you believe that all the evidence presented by the state is true? Do you believe that the state would never prosecute an innocent man? Funny if this were a black man in the city of detroit you would be stating without a doubt that he's innocent and that the "state" is making a false case. Yet because it is a military court then it's obviously from your perspective TRUE.

Realize that people have agenda's, that includes the "witnesses", the enemy, the prosecution, the defense, the courts, the commanders, the judge, and the Jury. The reality is there is a truth out there you and I are not privy to. That is the absolute truth of what happened. In reality in most cases there is no absolute truth revealed. One side or the other reveals what they believe happened and a jury looks at that from their bias and they either let the person walk or they throw the book at them. We have an imperfect system, but it's all we have.

 

Now I want you to understand something else.

 

When a Soldier is KIA or MIA from a combat zone you know nothing, about the facts of that Soldier. Specifically how they died and what they were doing when they died, all you get is a number. You have no idea what those animals were doing over there to their own people and to ours. We lost many personnel in Iraq.

 

https://www.cnn.com/...acts/index.html

What you will never know is the condition of the body when found. Reason? Dehumanization of the enemy is against Geneva Convention.

 

https://www.news.com...5d54858e80e69c7

Soldiers were tortured, and murdered plain and simple.

 

 

You cannot imagine the things found in these places and they were all over the place. Battery operated drills, and other implements, people were slowly murdered over days and weeks. Everyone of those cells knew what would happen to someone when they were captured, they KNEW it because everyone in ISIS was trained and had to witness it so they could understand that the enemy deserved this. So cry me a river about the poor "kid" that was murdered. You know nothing of the body count he wracked up, nor do I. He was a combatant, he was fighting and he died. But he didn't end up in some basement bunker slowly being drilled into or shocked to within an inch of his life over and over to finally be drug outside and have his head slowly hacked off by some murderous thug screaming god is greater.

 

You and others hide behind the walls that men and women die to protect, you then cast your slings at the honor of those that defend you against threats you are too afraid to stand up against yourself and claim we are the monsters.

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In a combat zone where people pick up and drop weapons in a second please define "civilian". In Iraq children were used to detonate IEDs, they were sent to retrieve weapons. They were running messages from fighter to fighter. That makes them combatants. I am curious if you were walking down the streets of Fallujah and some child began to throw a grenade at your people would you shoot that kid?

 

You are shooting at a "civilian" but that isn't really the case, the child has become a combatant. In the aftermath when that kid is a corpse there is no proof, just some clown with a camera claiming the kid wasn't doing a thing. You have to know what that Soldier knew at the moment that Soldier pulled the trigger in order to know what happened, not hindsight, not hearsay, not some fantastic claim by someone fed up and willing to make stories up in order to get out of a position they don't like.

 

Secondly, people dealing with death react to it differently. When faced with death some cry, some laugh some respond violently and attack and others fold like a paper bag. I was flying a mission in Iraq, and had just dropped off an Admiral at one of our bases, we were taking off and climbed over a T-wall on the way to get gas when 2 mortar rounds detonated around our aircraft, one landed under us on the T-wall about 30 feet from us, and the other missed by 300 meters. The aircraft shook, my Pilot in Command for this mission was a female Captain, she started laughing with an evil laugh, my response was to throw my hand out the door of our aircraft and toss the enemy the bird. My crew chiefs screamed, the outboard one actually saw the round slide through our rotor system and strike the wall.

 

All of us had our own response to that engagement. Until you been there and done that, you have no idea or understanding of what these people go through. PTSD? Damn right they all have it. I don't because I never had a problem doing what I had to do there. Nor did I get into any truly horrific crap, most of my "events" were short lived and high peak then nothing, on the other hand these people SEALs and the like are all high peak long term. When that happens you do things that are odd. Like taking pictures of your "kills" or posing with them. That's human nature and goes all the way back to when we took scalps of our fallen enemies, most of the time as they lay dying on the ground. It's barbaric, cruel and demeaning to the enemy. But that enemy also had a choice, they could have chose to not engage those troops in combat, they could have chosen instead to live within the rules they fought against. None of these people on either side are victims of anything, they were warriors and died. That happens, as does the reaction of those that were victors in the fight. If you can't accept that then stop sending them into combat, and be prepared to be a true victim, one who is oppressed and unwilling to do any thing about it.

 

I get all that, and I would hope that anyone else who has been in the military and/or a war zone does too.

 

But what sells it for me is that it was his own teammates that turned him in. And then kept pressing it after the Navy initially tried to ignore it. That's persuasive. VERY persuasive.

 

I mean, What should I believe? That SEAL Team Seven had (1) bad apple that went rogue during his EIGHTH tour in the area (enough to make anyone snap)? OR, that Eddie Gallagher was the One Righteous DudeTM on the team and all the other SEALs were a bunch of namby-pamby bleeding-heart-liberal weenies?

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Ladybird

You’re missing the point: you’ve already decided that this soldier is guilty. Let’s hear the evidence. Also, you seem unmoved by context. Does it matter or does it not matter what was going on? I haven’t heard what the young man who died was up to.

 

Do you not think that war is different than regular life? I only protest the fact that you’re very quick to throw an American soldier under the bus but comparatively don’t have the same attitude towards inner city killers.

 

Is that because it’s just easier for you to assume our soldiers are bad people?

 

You're mis-characterizing what I have posted. I never said this man is guilty. This is a trial which I posted an update on.

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You're mis-characterizing what I have posted. I never said this man is guilty. This is a trial which I posted an update on.

Yep that’s all it was. Strange how there’s never a post from you of black man or Muslim trial updates going bad for them. I guess there’s no connection between every update you post and your beliefs. But as you said this thread isn’t about you and you won’t answer facts about what you think, what you believe or why you post them. So basically they show your beliefs and speak to what you think. I’m sure you’d feel the same way if one poster continually posted anti gay or anti Islam stuff. It would just be hey here’s anouther black guy accused in court, here’s anouther Muslim,,, etc. then said it’s just court updates I thought they were interesting and posted. But I’m m not answering any questions about it, it’s not about me it’s about the black or Islamic court case. But that would be great by you and you would nott think anything about that persons charecter or thoughts? Just curious

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Yep that’s all it was. Strange how there’s never a post of black man or Muslim trial updates going bad for them. I guess there’s no connection between every update you post and your beliefs. But as you said this thread isn’t about you and you won’t answer facts about what you think, what you believe or why you post them. So basically they show your beliefs and speak to what you think. I’m sure you’d feel the same way if one poster continually posted anti gay or anti Islam stuff. It would just be hey here’s anouther black guy accused in court, here’s anouther Muslim,,, etc. then said it’s just court updates I thought they were interesting and posted. But I’m m not answering any questions about it, it’s not about me it’s about the black or Islamic court case. But that would be great by you and not say anything about that persons charecter or thoughts? Just curious

 

"Race again, sigh"

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"Race again, sigh"

Yeah pull out that card I never said anything racist in that post and don’t pick and choose what I comment on by race black or white. I can see what you choose to comment on and focus on. Is that your only response? Why are you so worried about race? There’s a term for that. But by all means feel free to actually address facts. I’d love to see examples were I posted anything racist if that’s what your inferring.if it’s not explain what you mean?or is that just the trained left response yell racist and your clear and free from responsibility to explain or answer. You are showing the shining example of racism in that accusation. But I know you can never admit that. If you are going to accuse someone of something please back it up with facts and examples. See I am not racist so yelling that does not make me run. Now your turn again, please explain and answer simple questions

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