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Texas School District Mandates Teaching Kids How to Have Anal Sex

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Ladybird

Been there done that, as a Jr High / HS'er in the '70s.

 

"New" Sex ed curriculum. Local churches were up in arms, because, OMG, Porno to kids. That's exactly how it was pitched.

 

Man, what a bummer. We were expecting a replay of "Deep Throat" in health class but instead got a grainy B&W film that started with a cartoon of tadpoles swimming uphill and ended with a warning about "Don't get in a car with strangers they might be [whispering] h.o.m.o.s". Pretty sure the latter was narrated by Broderick Crawford who played in "Highway Patrol" back in the '50s.

 

We had two days of 'Sex Ed' in 7th grade Science. The only film was a scary flik, showing oozing parts from STD's and a live birth. Our teacher seemed embarrassed to be there.

 

The next time we were taught sex ed was in tenth grade, and it was a way more comprehensive, lasting a few weeks. Of course by that time, several kids were already parents.

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Martin
No, they are not showing porn, and like almost every other school in this country, the parents can opt out of sex ed.

 

May I explain why your argument "it's not mandatory, parents can opt out" is invalid? Compare a voluntary school sponsored course in corn holing to a voluntary school sponsored public prayer. In 1992, the Supreme Court ruled that when a school sponsors the latter, it is not really voluntary. From the SCOTUS ruling:

 

 

the State may not place the student dissenter in the dilemma of participating or protesting. Since adolescents are often susceptible to peer pressure, especially in matters of social convention, the State may no more use social pressure to enforce orthodoxy than it may use direct means. The embarrassment and intrusion of the religious exercise cannot be refuted by arguing that the prayers are of a de minimis character, since that is an affront to ...those for whom the prayers have meaning, and since any intrusion was both real and a violation of the objectors' rights.

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dan r

No, they are not showing porn, and like almost every other school in this country, the parents can opt out of sex ed.

They shouldn't have to "opt out" of a deviant social experiment being tested on a captive audience of elementary children, and I find that being put forward as a justification extremely poor.

And why does an eight-year old need to be learing of the transmission of HIV through anal sex again?

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/austin-school-district-sex-ed/

 

There are hyper links to the schools website which shows the curricula.

Snopes again, <_< . Have you been paying attention to the articles posted on this very site about Snopes dishonest and bias at all?

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Ladybird

May I explain why your argument "it's not mandatory, parents can opt out" is invalid? Compare a voluntary school sponsored course in corn holing to a voluntary school sponsored public prayer. In 1992, the Supreme Court ruled that when a school sponsors the latter, it is not really voluntary. From the SCOTUS ruling:

 

 

the State may not place the student dissenter in the dilemma of participating or protesting. Since adolescents are often susceptible to peer pressure, especially in matters of social convention, the State may no more use social pressure to enforce orthodoxy than it may use direct means. The embarrassment and intrusion of the religious exercise cannot be refuted by arguing that the prayers are of a de minimis character, since that is an affront to ...those for whom the prayers have meaning, and since any intrusion was both real and a violation of the objectors' rights.

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So no one should learn about human sexuality, because some parents object?

What else should be eliminated to make everyone happy?

 

They shouldn't have to "opt out" of a deviant social experiment being tested on a captive audience of elementary children, and I find that being put forward as a justification extremely poor.

And why does an eight-year old need to be learing of the transmission of HIV through anal sex again?

 

 

Snopes again, <_< . Have you been paying attention to the articles posted on this very site about Snopes dishonest and bias at all?

 

How about you do what you think is best for your family and let others decide what is best for theirs. The snopes link contained two hyperlinks to the district curricula, by grade.

 

https://www.austinisd.org/sites/default/files/dept/pe-health/docs/HSR-Lesson-Overviews-3-5_2019-20.pdf

https://www.austinisd.org/sites/default/files/dept/pe-health/docs/HSR-Lesson-Overviews-6-8_2019-20.pdf

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Martin
I'm good with what? The allegations of what is "mandated" to be taught in the original article are, at best, gross exaggerations.

 

From the original post:

 

 

Students in grade school and middle school will also be taught how to get an abortion or obtain birth control pills without parental permission or consent.

If that is true, Ladybird, then it is no exaggeration at all.

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Ladybird

From the original post:

 

 

Students in grade school and middle school will also be taught how to get an abortion or obtain birth control pills without parental permission or consent.

If that is true, Ladybird, then it is no exaggeration at all.

 

If it’s true, parents still have the choice to opt out..

 

https://www.austinisd.org/pe-health/health-education

“The human sexuality and responsibility unit will be taught to your child, however, families may opt out of specific or all lessons. This unit is taught during the month of May for kindergarten through eighth grade and during a specific unit in the high school health education course. All human sexuality and responsibility materials, including policy, grade level overviews, lessons, and opt out letters can be viewed on the Human Sexuality and Responsibility page. Families may also view these materials and the additional teacher resources by visiting your campus library.”

 

 

From what I’ve gathered, it seems they are using the old curriculum, but have added information about gender identity, sexual orientation, bullying, and sexual harassment. I know these topics are taboo to some, but there are kids dealing with these issues who are very young. Still, if you don’t want your kid to learn about it, opt out of that lesson.

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MontyPython

If it’s true, parents still have the choice to opt out..

 

https://www.austinisd.org/pe-health/health-education

“The human sexuality and responsibility unit will be taught to your child, however, families may opt out of specific or all lessons. This unit is taught during the month of May for kindergarten through eighth grade and during a specific unit in the high school health education course. All human sexuality and responsibility materials, including policy, grade level overviews, lessons, and opt out letters can be viewed on the Human Sexuality and Responsibility page. Families may also view these materials and the additional teacher resources by visiting your campus library.”

 

 

From what I’ve gathered, it seems they are using the old curriculum, but have added information about gender identity, sexual orientation, bullying, and sexual harassment. I know these topics are taboo to some, but there are kids dealing with these issues who are very young. Still, if you don’t want your kid to learn about it, opt out of that lesson.

 

Opt out? Did you completely miss post #27?

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MontyPython

And by the way, let me add that I'm fully in favor of sex ed in school. But that doesn't excuse deviant sex ed. Huge difference.

 

B)

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Ladybird

Opt out? Did you completely miss post #27?

I can’t tell which one is #27 on my phone

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Ladybird

And by the way, let me add that I'm fully in favor of sex ed in school. But that doesn't excuse deviant sex ed. Huge difference.

 

B)

It’s possible that your definition of ‘deviant’ differs from others.

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MontyPython

I can’t tell which one is #27 on my phone

 

It's the one where Martin carefully explains why "opt out" is not a valid excuse.

 

 

It’s possible that your definition of ‘deviant’ differs from others.

 

LOL

 

:rolleyes:

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Ladybird

It's the one where Martin carefully explains why "opt out" is not a valid excuse.

 

 

 

 

LOL

 

:rolleyes:

 

Oh that one. That’s where I asked, what else should be eliminated completely because some people might object?

Should they erase all references to homosexuality or the transgendered because SOME don’t want their kids to hear about. What about kids who are curious about these subjects (because of family and friends) or who are gay themselves?

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Natural Selection
The school district will also begin instructing students to no longer use words like "mother" or "father.

 

The progressive freak show just keeps getting weirder and weirder.

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MontyPython

Oh that one. That’s where I asked, what else should be eliminated completely because some people might object?

 

Deliberately and unnecessarily cluttering up the issue. Let's stick with the subject.

 

 

Should they erase all references to homosexuality or the transgendered because SOME don’t want their kids to hear about. What about kids who are curious about these subjects (because of family and friends) or who are gay themselves?

 

Such information is readily available from countless sources if they're genuinely curious. Hell, they could even talk to those gay friends/family members about it, couldn't they? There's no excuse for putting the kids under the peer-pressure embarrassment of "opting out" of something they never should've been confronted with in the first place.

 

B)

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Hieronymous

Is trustee an elected position?

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Ladybird

Deliberately and unnecessarily cluttering up the issue. Let's stick with the subject.

 

 

 

 

Such information is readily available from countless sources if they're genuinely curious. Hell, they could even talk to those gay friends/family members about it, couldn't they? There's no excuse for putting the kids under the peer-pressure embarrassment of "opting out" of something they never should've been confronted with in the first place.

 

B)

 

How about the pressure and embarrassment of children who are being bullied because of the ignorance of those who don’t want to acknowledge their existence?

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MontyPython

How about the pressure and embarrassment of children who are being bullied because of the ignorance of those who don’t want to acknowledge their existence?

 

Why would anybody refuse to acknowledge their existence?

 

:scratch:

 

And in any case, these classes are much more likely to cause shunning and bullying than to eliminate it.

 

B)

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Ladybird

Why would anybody refuse to acknowledge their existence?

 

:scratch:

 

And in any case, these classes are much more likely to cause shunning and bullying than to eliminate it.

 

B)

Evidenced by what, the lack of bullying that is going on and has been going on since we were kids. Back in junior high in the 70’s, we even had teachers bullying kids that were obviously gay.

 

What else should be eliminated because of some parents objections?

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MontyPython

Evidenced by what, the lack of bullying that is going on and has been going on since we were kids. Back in junior high in the 70’s, we even had teachers bullying kids that were obviously gay.

 

Don't play ignorant. Where kids are currently being called "wimpy" or whatever the bullies will now have a whole new slew of insults like "f*gg*t" and "qu**r" and so forth.

 

And where "regular" kids might be willing to stand up for the "wimpy" kid being bullied, many will be much less willing to interfere if the kid being bullied is a "f*g/qu**r".

 

 

What else should be eliminated because of some parents objections?

 

Sorry, I'm still not going down the off-topic rabbit-hole.

 

B)

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Ladybird

Don't play ignorant. Where kids are currently being called "wimpy" or whatever the bullies will now have a whole new slew of insults like "f*gg*t" and "qu**r" and so forth.

 

And where "regular" kids might be willing to stand up for the "wimpy" kid being bullied, many will be much less willing to interfere if the kid being bullied is a "f*g/qu**r".

 

 

 

 

Sorry, I'm still not going down the off-topic rabbit-hole.

 

B)

 

Sure, that’s not happening now.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/loved-alabama-community-picks-pieces-bullied-gay-teen/story?id=62694866

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Natural Selection

What else should be eliminated because of some parents objections?

 

As the issues arise we'll let you know.

 

Until then, the progressive attempt to normalize anal sex in the minds of children should definitely be eliminated. Kids need to focus on reading, writing, math, science, finance, and other useful subjects. The last thing they need is images of anal sex haunting their minds while they're trying to do their homework.

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Ladybird

As the issues arise we'll let you know.

 

Until then, the progressive attempt to normalize anal sex in the minds of children should definitely be eliminated. Kids need to focus on reading, writing, math, science, finance, and other useful subjects. The last thing they need is images of anal sex haunting their minds while they're trying to do their homework.

 

Why are conservatives so focused on anal sex?

 

Here’s a more even handed account of the meeting..

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/education/schools/austin-news-isd-sex-ed-curriculum/269-9d1989bb-1d57-4724-a819-1f0a33375a47

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MontyPython

 

*Sigh*

 

It would be different if you honestly missed the point. But deliberately dodging the point earns you nothing but scorn. And rightfully so.

 

B)

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Natural Selection

Why are conservatives so focused on anal sex?

 

Here’s a more even handed account of the meeting..

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/education/schools/austin-news-isd-sex-ed-curriculum/269-9d1989bb-1d57-4724-a819-1f0a33375a47

 

"Even handed"? :lol:

 

Like I said...they're trying to normalize it. You just did by calling it "even handed".

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Ladybird

*Sigh*

 

It would be different if you honestly missed the point. But deliberately dodging the point earns you nothing but scorn. And rightfully so.

 

B)

 

 

I’ll take the scorn.

I don’t think it’s too much of an imposition for parents to instruct the school on what their children will be taught, instead of over ruling what will be offered for everyone else’s family.

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