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MontyPython

I don’t think...

 

That has been obvious since Nov 2016.

 

 

I’ll take the scorn.

I don’t think it’s too much of an imposition for parents to instruct the school on what their children will be taught, instead of over ruling what will be offered for everyone else’s family.

 

OK then, would you feel the same about fundamentalist Christian stuff, like "All homosexuals are going to Hell"? Should the kids have to "opt out", or is it something the schools shouldn't be teaching in the first place?

 

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Ladybird

That has been obvious since Nov 2016.

 

 

 

 

OK then, would you feel the same about fundamentalist Christian stuff, like "All homosexuals are going to Hell"? Should the kids have to "opt out", or is it something the schools shouldn't be teaching in the first place?

 

:tap:

 

Schools are not churches and forced religious indoctrination is not permitted, thanks to our founders. Families can get all the fire and brimstone they need at church.

 

It is your opinion that children should learn about heterosexually only when it comes to sex ed. Not everyone shares that opinion.

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MontyPython

Schools are not churches and forced religious indoctrination is not permitted, thanks to our founders. Families can get all the fire and brimstone they need at church.

 

If it was anybody else I'd be startled by the incredible hypocrisy.

 

 

It is your opinion that children should learn about heterosexually only when it comes to sex ed. Not everyone shares that opinion.

 

That's not what I said nor what I think.

 

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Ladybird

If it was anybody else I'd be startled by the incredible hypocrisy.

 

 

 

 

That's not what I said nor what I think.

 

<_<

 

 

This is the curriculum that was approved.

 

https://www.austinisd.org/sites/default/files/dept/pe-health/docs/HSR-Lesson-Overviews-3-5_2019-20.pdf

https://www.austinisd.org/sites/default/files/dept/pe-health/docs/HSR-Lesson-Overviews-6-8_2019-20.pdf

 

I didn’t see anything about instructing children ‘how to have anal sex’. It is spelled out in a way that identifies what will be taught, parents can make a decision.

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MontyPython

This is the curriculum that was approved.

 

https://www.austinisd.org/sites/default/files/dept/pe-health/docs/HSR-Lesson-Overviews-3-5_2019-20.pdf

https://www.austinisd.org/sites/default/files/dept/pe-health/docs/HSR-Lesson-Overviews-6-8_2019-20.pdf

 

I didn’t see anything about instructing children ‘how to have anal sex’. It is spelled out in a way that identifies what will be taught, parents can make a decision.

 

A very quick glance shows me:

 

ID.8.CC.1 Differentiate between gender identity, gender expression and sexual orientation

ID.8.CC.2 Explain the range of gender roles

 

There you are. Without reading further I already know the school is going way beyond its rightful role in the community.

 

And going back to the opening article, you stated in post #19 that the opening article engaged in "gross exaggerations"

 

OK, which of these things isn't true:

 

"instruction on gender identity and mandated support of the LGBT movement. Students in grade school and middle school will also be taught how to get an abortion or obtain birth control pills without parental permission or consent. The school district will also begin instructing students to no longer use words like "mother" or "father."

 

"Use gender inclusive language," the district's material mandates. "It is important to avoid terms which refer to only 'male' or 'female' identities when speaking with young children as this can limit their understanding of gender into binaries and can exclude children who may not identify within these identities."

 

The district's curriculum recommends "integrating" words like parents or guardians instead mom or dad."

 

I'm genuinely curious: Are none of those things true?

 

B)

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Ladybird

A very quick glance shows me:

 

ID.8.CC.1 Differentiate between gender identity, gender expression and sexual orientation

ID.8.CC.2 Explain the range of gender roles

 

There you are. Without reading further I already know the school is going way beyond its rightful role in the community.

 

And going back to the opening article, you stated in post #19 that the opening article engaged in "gross exaggerations"

 

OK, which of these things isn't true:

 

"instruction on gender identity and mandated support of the LGBT movement. Students in grade school and middle school will also be taught how to get an abortion or obtain birth control pills without parental permission or consent. The school district will also begin instructing students to no longer use words like "mother" or "father."

 

"Use gender inclusive language," the district's material mandates. "It is important to avoid terms which refer to only 'male' or 'female' identities when speaking with young children as this can limit their understanding of gender into binaries and can exclude children who may not identify within these identities."

 

The district's curriculum recommends "integrating" words like parents or guardians instead mom or dad."

 

I'm genuinely curious: Are none of those things true?

 

B)

 

“nstruction on gender identity and mandated support of the LGBT movement. Students in grade school and middle school will also be taught how to get an abortion or obtain birth control pills without parental permission or consent. The school district will also begin instructing students to no longer use words like "mother" or "father."”

 

Where does it say any of this? There is a large section on preventing pregnancy, with a healthy emphasis on abstinence as well as describing birth control methods.

 

Where does it instruct kids to get an abortion without their parents permission?

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MontyPython

“nstruction on gender identity and mandated support of the LGBT movement. Students in grade school and middle school will also be taught how to get an abortion or obtain birth control pills without parental permission or consent. The school district will also begin instructing students to no longer use words like "mother" or "father."”

 

Where does it say any of this? There is a large section on preventing pregnancy, with a healthy emphasis on abstinence as well as describing birth control methods.

 

Where does it instruct kids to get an abortion without their parents permission?

 

I have no idea where (or whether) it says "get an abortion without parents permission" and I'm not going to attempt to read those entire pdfs. So how about just addressing the excerpts I got from your pdfs?

 

B)

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MontyPython

:coffeenpc:

 

By the way, I want to revisit this comment:

 

It’s possible that your definition of ‘deviant’ differs from others.

 

I'm talking about the English Language definition: "Anything which deviates from the norm."

 

As you know perfectly well I've always been an outspoken defender of gays/lesbians/bis, equitable homosexual rights, same-sex marriage, gays in the military, and so forth. Therefore you also know my objections here have no relation whatsoever to any "bias against LGBTQEIEIO people." I'm simply defending the equally-called-for equitable rights of those who aren't LGBTQEIEO and don't agree that there's a "range" of genders or that words like "mom" & "dad" should be indoctrinated out of a kid's vocabulary.

 

B)

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Ladybird

I have no idea where (or whether) it says "get an abortion without parents permission" and I'm not going to attempt to read those entire pdfs. So how about just addressing the excerpts I got from your pdfs?

 

B)

 

ID.8.CC.1 Differentiate between gender identity, gender expression and sexual orientation

ID.8.CC.2 Explain the range of gender roles

 

What about it? This is for 8th graders. It explores aspects of human sexuality and relationships. There is a difference between concepts of gender identity and sexual orientation.

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MontyPython

ID.8.CC.1 Differentiate between gender identity, gender expression and sexual orientation

ID.8.CC.2 Explain the range of gender roles

 

What about it? This is for 8th graders. It explores aspects of human sexuality and relationships. There is a difference between concepts of gender identity and sexual orientation.

 

I was 13 in the 8th grade. Way too young to be getting instructions concerning human sexuality, "range" of genders, eliminating gender-specific words like "mom" & "dad", etc.

 

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Rock N' Roll Right Winger

Schools are not churches and forced religious indoctrination is not permitted, thanks to our founders. Families can get all the fire and brimstone they need at church.

 

It is your opinion that children should learn about heterosexually only when it comes to sex ed. Not everyone shares that opinion.

Yet here you are forcing YOUR religion upon others.

 

In your religion, all that's bad is good and all that's good is bad.

 

Satan is very proud of you.

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Rock N' Roll Right Winger

A very quick glance shows me:

 

ID.8.CC.1 Differentiate between gender identity, gender expression and sexual orientation

ID.8.CC.2 Explain the range of gender roles

 

There you are. Without reading further I already know the school is going way beyond its rightful role in the community.

 

And going back to the opening article, you stated in post #19 that the opening article engaged in "gross exaggerations"

 

OK, which of these things isn't true:

 

"instruction on gender identity and mandated support of the LGBT movement. Students in grade school and middle school will also be taught how to get an abortion or obtain birth control pills without parental permission or consent. The school district will also begin instructing students to no longer use words like "mother" or "father."

 

"Use gender inclusive language," the district's material mandates. "It is important to avoid terms which refer to only 'male' or 'female' identities when speaking with young children as this can limit their understanding of gender into binaries and can exclude children who may not identify within these identities."

 

The district's curriculum recommends "integrating" words like parents or guardians instead mom or dad."

 

I'm genuinely curious: Are none of those things true?

 

B)

 

 

BAM!

 

Right on the head!

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Ladybird

I was 13 in the 8th grade. Way too young to be getting instructions concerning human sexuality, "range" of genders, eliminating gender-specific words like "mom" & "dad", etc.

 

<_<

 

There was a girl in my class who got pregnant in 8th grade.

 

Where was the part about “eliminating the word for mom and dad”?

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Ladybird

Yet here you are forcing YOUR religion upon others.

 

In your religion, all that's bad is good and all that's good is bad.

 

Satan is very proud of you.

 

Who is being “forced”?

 

Lying is a sin.

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MontyPython

There was a girl in my class who got pregnant in 8th grade.

 

Gee, maybe they should've spent more time on heterosexual reproduction (and how to avoid it) instead of wasting everybody's class time pretending there's a "range" of genders.

 

 

Where was the part about “eliminating the word for mom and dad”?

 

Are you suggesting that's not the logical, inevitable end game concerning "ranges" of genders?

 

B)

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RedSoloCup

Yet here you are forcing YOUR religion upon others.

 

In your religion, all that's bad is good and all that's good is bad.

 

Satan is very proud of you.

 

The Leftist Mantra: It's not xxx when WE do it.

 

Who is being “forced”?

 

Lying is a sin.

 

:biglaugh:

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RedSoloCup

No, they are not showing porn, and like almost every other school in this country, the parents can opt out of sex ed.

 

 

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/austin-school-district-sex-ed/

 

There are hyper links to the schools website which shows the curricula.

 

Snopes, the same hack web<censored>e that had the balls to fact-check the Babylon Bee, as it hurt their fragile ego?

 

:biglaugh:

 

They shouldn't have to "opt out" of a deviant social experiment being tested on a captive audience of elementary children, and I find that being put forward as a justification extremely poor.

And why does an eight-year old need to be learing of the transmission of HIV through anal sex again?

 

 

Snopes again, <_< . Have you been paying attention to the articles posted on this very site about Snopes dishonest and bias at all?

 

She don't care.

 

So no one should learn about human sexuality, because some parents object?

What else should be eliminated to make everyone happy?

 

 

 

How about you do what you think is best for your family and let others decide what is best for theirs. The snopes link contained two hyperlinks to the district curricula, by grade.

 

https://www.austinisd.org/sites/default/files/dept/pe-health/docs/HSR-Lesson-Overviews-3-5_2019-20.pdf

https://www.austinisd.org/sites/default/files/dept/pe-health/docs/HSR-Lesson-Overviews-6-8_2019-20.pdf

 

:blahblah:

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Ladybird

Gee, maybe they should've spent more time on heterosexual reproduction (and how to avoid it) instead of wasting everybody's class time pretending there's a "range" of genders.

 

 

 

 

Are you suggesting that's not the logical, inevitable end game concerning "ranges" of genders?

 

B)

 

This was my 8th grade class in the 70’s. As I mentioned above, sex ed at that point was rushed and pretty much useless. I do know that by 8th grade many people already suspect or know their sexuality.

 

 

As for the mom & dad, It may have more to do with traditional families changing to ones including same gender parents. But of course that wasn’t in the program.

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MontyPython

This was my 8th grade class in the 70’s. As I mentioned above, sex ed at that point was rushed and pretty much useless. I do know that by 8th grade many people already suspect or know their sexuality.

 

My cousin did.

 

 

As for the mom & dad, It may have more to do with traditional families changing to ones including same gender parents. But of course that wasn’t in the program.

 

And shouldn't be.

 

B)

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Squirrel

It’s possible that your definition of ‘deviant’ differs from others.

Hey just a question reading the whole thread, should they cover beastiity? I mean if they are giving the parents the ability to opt out? Maybe some kids like sheep and are too ashamed to say it. I mean they have no one to talk to. Someone has to talk to them right? Maybe they have a family member that likes dogs or cats. The other parents can opt out. But that kid needs someone to talk to right? Or where is your line drawn? I mean if the kids are allowed to opt out and we just don’t show full films but just explain it with diagrams and pictures your ok with that right? If so at what age? If not why and what’s the difference? Easy questions following your own logic and debate so far.

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Ladybird

Hey just a question reading the whole thread, should they cover beastiity? I mean if they are giving the parents the ability to opt out? Maybe some kids like sheep and are too ashamed to say it. I mean they have no one to talk to. Someone has to talk to them right? Maybe they have a family member that likes dogs or cats. The other parents can opt out. But that kid needs someone to talk to right? Or where is your line drawn? I mean if the kids are allowed to opt out and we just don’t show full films but just explain it with diagrams and pictures your ok with that right? If so at what age? If not why and what’s the difference? Easy questions following your own logic and debate so far.

 

Bestiality? Considering this curriculum covers human sexuality and relationships, I'm fairly certain sex with our four legged, furry friends would not fit in the course outline.

 

You can always make suggestion. Try Florida.

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Squirrel

Bestiality? Considering this curriculum covers human sexuality and relationships, I'm fairly certain sex with our four legged, furry friends would not fit in the course outline.

 

You can always make suggestion. Try Florida.

So there’s no human or sick person involved in beastiality? Guess what that term is human and animal. But there’s your point you think even if they can opt out it is a stupid excuse and dodge. I don’t agree with either one. But thanks for showing your arguement is based in stupdity. Just glad you have some limit and standards. Even if you have a double standard.

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Ticked@TinselTown

Who is being “forced”?

 

Lying is a sin.

 

:biglaugh:

 

Well, I wonder what kind of crisping obfuscation will net?

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Howsithangin

Bestiality? Considering this curriculum covers human sexuality and relationships, I'm fairly certain sex with our four legged, furry friends would not fit in the course outline.

 

 

You clearly haven't been paying attention to the continuous pushing by The Left of the envelope. Pushing fringe gay agenda, then trans, now nibbling at the edges of paedphilia. In 10 years, who knows? Human=canine marriages? The Left clearly has no boundaries. :shrug:

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There was a girl in my class who got pregnant in 8th grade.

 

That would not have happened if her parents had taught her to abstain from sex until she was married or at least an adult. It also would not have happened had she gone to school in the Austin Independent School District. They would have taught her to have anal sex.

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