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AntonToo

Why is blocking witnesses a thing that we want?

 

Because these witnesses will tell you that Trump is guilty as charged and the Republicans will have to explain their “nothing to see here” denials and condoning of this swamp all the way through election.

 

So the only question here is if it’s worse than getting hit upside the head for running a sham trial where testimony of highly relevant witnesses was squashed.

 

This is what happens when your political party hitches it’s wagon to a swamper like Trump.

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MontyPython

Because these witnesses will tell you that Trump is guilty as charged and the Republicans will have to explain their “nothing to see here” denials and condoning of this swamp all the way through election.

 

So the only question here is if it’s worse than getting hit upside the head for running a sham trial where testimony of highly relevant witnesses was squashed.

 

This is what happens when your political party hitches it’s wagon to a swamper like Trump.

 

:giggle:

 

And funniest of all, I'll bet you actually "believe" that hilarious codswallop.

 

:giggle:

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Natural Selection

Because these witnesses will tell you that Trump is guilty as charged and the Republicans will have to explain their “nothing to see here” denials and condoning of this swamp all the way through election.

 

So the only question here is if it’s worse than getting hit upside the head for running a sham trial where testimony of highly relevant witnesses was squashed.

 

This is what happens when your political party hitches it’s wagon to a swamper like Trump.

 

The GAO said Obama violated the law in engagements with China.

 

Why wasn't Obama impeached?

 

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Magic Rat

Because these witnesses will tell you that Trump is guilty as charged and the Republicans will have to explain their “nothing to see here” denials and condoning of this swamp all the way through election.

 

So the only question here is if it’s worse than getting hit upside the head for running a sham trial where testimony of highly relevant witnesses was squashed.

 

This is what happens when your political party hitches it’s wagon to a swamper like Trump.

 

Nothing but the party line. The only original thought is calling the only individual in this circus who isn’t a career politician a ‘swamper’.

 

Actually, that isn’t even novel. You had to steal that from Trump voters. Lol. This is how this dog and pony show ends; with a whimper and a whine.

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Dean Adam Smithee

Have the Dems coalesced behind one candidate now? And if this is what happens, no one is to blame but Doug Collins. He should not have tossed his hat in.

 

Three Dems (so far) but only one that matters.

 


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  • Rev. Raphael Warnock, far-left pastor of the far-left Ebenezer Baptist Church, the onetime church of St. Martin of Philandery. According to Erickson, Stacy Abrams has declined to run - she'd rather wait for a chance at the governor seat (again) in '22 - and is backing Warnock who will almost certainly also be endorsed by congressmen Hank "Guam's Tipping Over" Johnson and John Lewis. Doesn't matter if he actually knows anything or what his positions might be, because Ebenezer, and Warnock will naturally MiLK that for all it's worth.
     
  • Ed Tarver, former federal prosecutor from the Augusta area. Ed who?
     
  • Matt Lieberman, son of former CT senator (And VP candidate) Joe Lieberman. Of course most of US know who his dad was, but the average millennial/post-millennial is probably wondering "What's a Lieberman?". Besides, he's white.
     

 

 

EtA: Stacey Abrams may be dumber than a box of rocks and a complete tool when it comes to policy, but she's very street-smart when it comes to political angling. She knows that if she backs Warnock NOW, and he wins because of a 50/50 split amongst Republicans between Doug Collins and incumbent Kelly Loeffler, that favor will be returned in spades (so to speak) when she runs for governor.

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zurg

Because these witnesses will tell you that Trump is guilty as charged and the Republicans will have to explain their “nothing to see here” denials and condoning of this swamp all the way through election.

 

So the only question here is if it’s worse than getting hit upside the head for running a sham trial where testimony of highly relevant witnesses was squashed.

 

This is what happens when your political party hitches it’s wagon to a swamper like Trump.

This is very funny!

 

Where’s this from?

“Have you ever been in a limo?”

“Yeah, but not one this small!”

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AntonToo

I may be oversimplifying it, but I think most of us conservatives are more than ready for this farce to be over, rather than dragging it out as the dems will undoubtedly attempt to do. :shrug:

 

What most conservatives want is to humilate Democrats by definetively showing their impeachment claims to be counterfactual overeach. Are really going to tell me thats NOT what you want?

 

Now if that really is what happened, and that really was what Bolton, Mulvaney, Juliani and others involved witnessed happening then you, like Trump, like Congressional Republicans would be DEMANDING for directly involved witnesses to come testify.

 

 

Unfortunately that is not what happened, the President conducted himself reprehensibly and Congressional Republicans know that damn well, even if they don't want to remove him. That is exactly why they just want to wrap this up asap without any of that damaging testimony.

 

The rest is just you rationalizing the shady behaviour of the Republican Senate against a clear feeling in your gut that a trial were pertinent witness testimony is suppressed is a transparent sham.

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zurg

What most conservatives want is to humilate Democrats by definetively showing their impeachment claims to be counterfactual overeach. Are really going to tell me thats NOT what you want?

That’s definitely one of the things *I* want to see. It happens to be one of the things we have seen through the fantastic WH legal team’s presentations.

 

What I *also* want to see is that the democrats are pounded so deep into submission that they’ll never try this flimsy partisan crap again. I want them to feel the punishment for *their* abuse of power (invalid subpoenas, no due process, no right for defense, and then incredibly whining about not having a fair trial!).

 

I *also* want to see democrats lose tons of seats in November, in particular lose tons of black and Hispanic voters, when more and more Americans finally wake up and realize the democrats are socialists and communists who are against the American dream and the American lifestyle.

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Noclevermoniker

Because these witnesses will tell you that Trump is guilty as charged and the Republicans will have to explain their “nothing to see here” denials and condoning of this swamp all the way through election.

 

So the only question here is if it’s worse than getting hit upside the head for running a sham trial where testimony of highly relevant witnesses was squashed.

 

This is what happens when your political party hitches it’s wagon to a swamper like Trump.

Pay up, shut up, and go away.

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Noclevermoniker

What most conservatives want is to humilate Democrats by definetively showing their impeachment claims to be counterfactual overeach. Are really going to tell me thats NOT what you want?

 

Now if that really is what happened, and that really was what Bolton, Mulvaney, Juliani and others involved witnessed happening then you, like Trump, like Congressional Republicans would be DEMANDING for directly involved witnesses to come testify.

 

 

Unfortunately that is not what happened, the President conducted himself reprehensibly and Congressional Republicans know that damn well, even if they don't want to remove him. That is exactly why they just want to wrap this up asap without any of that damaging testimony.

 

The rest is just you rationalizing the shady behaviour of the Republican Senate against a clear feeling in your gut that a trial were pertinent witness testimony is suppressed is a transparent sham.

Why did schiff pull back his subpoena for Bolton?

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Coach

I may be oversimplifying it, but I think most of us conservatives are more than ready for this farce to be over, rather than dragging it out as the dems will undoubtedly attempt to do. :shrug:

 

 

 

Dershowitz has it nailed. The Founders greatest fear was democracy not monarchy. The Anti-Federalists morphed into the current Progressives over years have been trying to destroy the Republic and replace it with a congressionally all powerful democracy. Using the bastardized and hair trigger impeachment weapon they could accomplish what they can't do at the ballot box.

 

That is exactly what is playing out in the Senate and when it fails the proggies will come up with another plot.

 

That is why Barr and Durham are so vital to uncovering all of the unconstitutional and treasonable actions of the Obama/Biden years. It is literally about the survival of our Republic. That's what Ben Franklin was talking about not the bullsh!t Nancy Pelosi spewed.

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Coach

Because these witnesses will tell you that Trump is guilty as charged and the Republicans will have to explain their “nothing to see here” denials and condoning of this swamp all the way through election.

 

So the only question here is if it’s worse than getting hit upside the head for running a sham trial where testimony of highly relevant witnesses was squashed.

 

This is what happens when your political party hitches it’s wagon to a swamper like Trump.

 

 

 

Question for the moderators: Can y'all come up with a filter that identifies and zapps childish posts such as the above ?

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oki

What most conservatives want is to humilate Democrats by definetively showing their impeachment claims to be counterfactual overeach. Are really going to tell me thats NOT what you want?

 

Now if that really is what happened, and that really was what Bolton, Mulvaney, Juliani and others involved witnessed happening then you, like Trump, like Congressional Republicans would be DEMANDING for directly involved witnesses to come testify.

 

 

Unfortunately that is not what happened, the President conducted himself reprehensibly and Congressional Republicans know that damn well, even if they don't want to remove him. That is exactly why they just want to wrap this up asap without any of that damaging testimony.

 

The rest is just you rationalizing the shady behaviour of the Republican Senate against a clear feeling in your gut that a trial were pertinent witness testimony is suppressed is a transparent sham.

 

No more reprehensible than a sitting Vice President demanding a foreign Government fire a prosecutor who is investigating his son, then bragging about it right?

You want to talk about conduct of a President? Sure, go ahead. Let's talk all about violations of the War Powers act, violations of the U.S. Constitution VIA executive order, paying Terrorist supporting nations huge sums of money, bowing to foreign heads of state. While Trump has plenty of flaws, not looking out for the United States and settling for a status quo of getting nothing done aren't on that list. And that's the problem, he is embarrassing your hero, not only undoing everything Obama stood for, but also proving it doesn't work.

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NH Populist

What most conservatives want is to humilate Democrats by definetively showing their impeachment claims to be counterfactual overeach. Are really going to tell me thats NOT what you want?

 

Are you REALLY trying to tell us that Joe Biden and son Hunter weren't involved in corruption?! You know damn well they were! And in all likelihood, this impeachment bs is nothing more than your side's attempt to muddy the waters...

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MontyPython

LOLOL - Anton, The Democrats have already humiliated themselves with their idiotic counterfactual impeachment overreach. And Trump's legal team has done a magnificent job of proving it.

 

And apparently you have confused the phrase "conducted himself reprehensibly" with "acting honorably in America's best interests".

 

What a "shock".

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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RedSoloCup

What most conservatives want is to humilate Democrats by definetively showing their impeachment claims to be counterfactual overeach. Are really going to tell me thats NOT what you want?

 

Now if that really is what happened, and that really was what Bolton, Mulvaney, Juliani and others involved witnessed happening then you, like Trump, like Congressional Republicans would be DEMANDING for directly involved witnesses to come testify.

 

 

Unfortunately that is not what happened, the President conducted himself reprehensibly and Congressional Republicans know that damn well, even if they don't want to remove him. That is exactly why they just want to wrap this up asap without any of that damaging testimony.

 

The rest is just you rationalizing the shady behaviour of the Republican Senate against a clear feeling in your gut that a trial were pertinent witness testimony is suppressed is a transparent sham.

 

:crybaby2:

 

Get used to three words, son:

 

"President Trump acquitted"

 

Pay up, shut up, and go away.

 

X2.

 

Because these witnesses will tell you that Trump is guilty as charged and the Republicans will have to explain their “nothing to see here” denials and condoning of this swamp all the way through election.

 

So the only question here is if it’s worse than getting hit upside the head for running a sham trial where testimony of highly relevant witnesses was squashed.

 

This is what happens when your political party hitches it’s wagon to a swamper like Trump.

 

Get bent. Seriously.

 

Question for the moderators: Can y'all come up with a filter that identifies and zapps childish posts such as the above ?

 

Good call. I thought we had an "ignore" feature here. I sure would like to take advantage of it.

 

Are you REALLY trying to tell us that Joe Biden and son Hunter weren't involved in corruption?! You know damn well they were! And in all likelihood, this impeachment bs is nothing more than your side's attempt to muddy the waters...

 

Yes, the Russian moocher is most definitely so.

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Rock N' Roll Right Winger

Because these witnesses will tell you that Trump is guilty as charged and the Republicans will have to explain their “nothing to see here” denials and condoning of this swamp all the way through election.

 

So the only question here is if it’s worse than getting hit upside the head for running a sham trial where testimony of highly relevant witnesses was squashed.

 

This is what happens when your political party hitches it’s wagon to a swamper like Trump.

Total dumbassery.

 

Funny, your party are the swampers and the deep state, yet you are just too damned stupid to see that you just like your <censored>ed up party accuse Trump of exactly what you are doing.

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Taggart Transcontinental

Why is blocking witnesses a thing that we want?

 

McConnell has stated that investigating the nonsense in Ukraine should be left after the nonsense here. I am in agreement on that one. Acquittal seems the right thing since the evidence as they claim it to be is nothing more than opinion. There is no proof of any wrong doing. So how many times have you heard of calling witnesses by either side after the people made their final arguments? They already argued their "evidence" and it's wanting. Thus they want more time to dig, that's just crazy.

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Rock N' Roll Right Winger

That’s definitely one of the things *I* want to see. It happens to be one of the things we have seen through the fantastic WH legal team’s presentations.

 

What I *also* want to see is that the democrats are pounded so deep into submission that they’ll never try this flimsy partisan crap again. I want them to feel the punishment for *their* abuse of power (invalid subpoenas, no due process, no right for defense, and then incredibly whining about not having a fair trial!).

 

I *also* want to see democrats lose tons of seats in November, in particular lose tons of black and Hispanic voters, when more and more Americans finally wake up and realize the democrats are socialists and communists who are against the American dream and the American lifestyle.

I want to see these democraps IN PRISON OR SWING from the gallows for their crimes.

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Rock N' Roll Right Winger

Question for the moderators: Can y'all come up with a filter that identifies and zapps childish posts such as the above ?

A lie detector would be best.

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Taggart Transcontinental

And going a little further than Jerry......it would be unconstitutional.....calling witnesses and allowing further documents is not within the power of the Senate....that is the sole and complete job of the House and their chosen managers....in this instance the Democrat house wants to bully the Senate into getting a further bite at the apple. They could have subpoenaed Bolton Or anyone they liked and they didn't because Trump would have challenged them in court.....as is his right.......and they didn't want to take the time....remember Trump was a "threat to the Democracy"..... I think this whole exercise goes back 21 years to Clinton....the Democrats have never gotten over that asterisk by Billy's name....even thought he committed perjury and suborned perjury.....and lost his law license as well.

 

So here we are....if the Republicans cave to witnesses then prepare yourselves for every Republican president from now on to be impeached by a Democrat controlled house on "bull Schiff" charges like the ones Trump is facing today. Remember the House Democrats charges are NOT criminal......because no criminal act was committed....no matter how they try to spin it.

 

After almost four years of constant attacks from those on the left on a day-by-day basis, I truly don't see how "Orange Man Bad" does it. I'm 65 years old and have been involved in politics for most of my life(lost 10 cents on the Kennedy-Nixon election) and I haven NEVER seen a whirlwind president like this. As Lincoln said about a hard headed general named

Grant.... " I like him...he fights!"

 

I pray for the health and safety of President Trump every day....

 

Once someone said about President Teddy Roosevelt.... " I'm glad I was alive when he was President".

 

I feel the same way about Donald Trump.

 

Next November is going to be great.....get out and vote....get your friends to vote....take no chances.....don't care about the weather.....watch the other side.....I don't trust them....they've stolen elections before.

 

They haven't followed a lick of the Constitution yet. The President's atrorneys should have been able to ask questions of these witnesses, they should have been allowed into the various interrogations. They should be allowed to challenge the witnesses arrayed against the President. They haven't been allowed ONCE. That's the 6th Amendment and the Dem's ignored it entirely claiming that it don't apply to this hearing. Which is nonsense. You don't check your Constitutional rights at the door simply because an asshat wannabe dictator with a pencil neck says you do.

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Rock N' Roll Right Winger

Are you REALLY trying to tell us that Joe Biden and son Hunter weren't involved in corruption?! You know damn well they were! And in all likelihood, this impeachment bs is nothing more than your side's attempt to muddy the waters...

:exactly:

 

To cover up for Biden and son to get the heat off of them both to keep their sorry asses out of prison.

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Taggart Transcontinental

Because these witnesses will tell you that Trump is guilty as charged and the Republicans will have to explain their "nothing to see here" denials and condoning of this swamp all the way through election.

 

So the only question here is if it's worse than getting hit upside the head for running a sham trial where testimony of highly relevant witnesses was squashed.

 

This is what happens when your political party hitches it's wagon to a swamper like Trump.

 

Bolton is already on record as stating he would lie for what he perceives as a benefit to national security. Therefore he's already impeached himself as a truthful witness. He's done.

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Rock N' Roll Right Winger

McConnell has stated that investigating the nonsense in Ukraine should be left after the nonsense here. I am in agreement on that one. Acquittal seems the right thing since the evidence as they claim it to be is nothing more than opinion. There is no proof of any wrong doing. So how many times have you heard of calling witnesses by either side after the people made their final arguments? They already argued their "evidence" and it's wanting. Thus they want more time to dig, that's just crazy.

But, but... they say that their case is OVERWHELMING, yet they admit again and again that they don't have enough evidence?

 

And these progtards all actually BELIEVE THIS STUPID SHIDT?

 

Bolton is already on record as stating he would lie for what he perceives as a benefit to national security. Therefore he's already impeached himself as a truthful witness. He's done.

:exactly:

 

And Bolton is a deep state loving NWO warmongering leaker.

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Taggart Transcontinental

:crybaby2:

 

Get used to three words, son:

 

"President Trump acquitted"

 

 

 

X2.

 

 

 

Get bent. Seriously.

 

 

 

Good call. I thought we had an "ignore" feature here. I sure would like to take advantage of it.

 

 

 

Yes, the Russian moocher is most definitely so.

 

He also needs to get used to these two words for another 5 years or so.....

PRESIDENT TRUMP.

 

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