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oki

You’ve spent a lot of effort to refute exactly nothing of what I said.

 

I said Monty has a history of stubbornly doubling down on stupid and as you can see from his post above not much has changed.

 

AGAIN, if Bill Clinton was not convinced Iraq possessed W.M.D.'s then why did he order U.S. troops(INCLUDING MYSELF AND A NUMBER OF OTHER MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD) to take a Vaccine which was not tested and not proven? Come on, find your pair and answer this simple question. If Iraq didn't posses W.M.D.'s they did one hell of a job convincing the Dem party.

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erp

:lol3: :rofl: ROFLMAO :rofl: :lol3:

 

It's hilarious how immediately after chastising Natural Selection for "refut[ing] exactly nothing of what [you] said", you fall back on your "doubling down on stupid" nonsense when you have refuted exactly nothing of what I said. And the difference is that you've had 17 LONG YEARS to refute the facts I've laid out (so many times), and have never been able to refute a single one of them.

 

You realize, of course, that we're WAY off-topic here, so this should be my last comment in this thread on this off-topic topic:

 

As you'll recall, the traitorous American left used every conceivable stalling/delaying/obstruction tactic before the invasion finally was "allowed" to take place, thereby granting Saddam a full year and a half on a silver platter to clean up all the evidence. Naturally, after all that time nobody in their right mind expected those WMD to STILL be lying around waiting to be found. Of course they were gone all that time later (well most were gone. Another fact I pointed out was that some were found.)

 

Sorry Anton, but it's simply irrefutable that Saddam DID have WMD back when every intelligence-gathering agency in the world said he did. Only the truly naive (like you) are still deluding themselves he "didn't".

 

Anyhow, like I said, we're WAY off-topic here. If you want to continue proving your abject ignorance on this topic, start a new thread.

 

B)

Seventeen years in and the dude still can't articulate in a coherent manner. Years ago, someone gave him the excuse that english was not his first language. All these years posting here and he sounds as stupid as he did on his first post.

 

But hey, we are the stupid ones. cool_shades.gif

 

 

 

 

 

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erp

I hope Trump and his associates are taking that approach in the staff meetings. That's where Trump

 

But that's not the point of a press briefing, especially in a crisis like this. The point of a press briefing, however is to communicate clear, consistent messaging to the public.

 

Lost on you is, that is EXACTLY what Trump does.

 

Obama sure didn't do that. He was too focused on controlling the narrative. With Trump, we know what he is thinking. That is what you want in a leader. And he also challenges the press, who has lied to us for years.

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Natural Selection

You’ve spent a lot of effort to refute exactly nothing of what I said.

 

Work on your reading comprehension. I never tried to refute what you said.

 

I said "Before you cherry pick little pieces of history to create your own narrative, let's make sure we all understand the big picture".

 

That's because deceitful little commies like yourself like to omit information to create a narrative. In this case, you tried to frame Bush for a failed WMD invasion by omitting the fact that BILL CLINTON started the whole WMD war.

 

Clinton passed his WMD war to Bush. With the data passed to him from Clinton and the intelligence agencies telling him that Iraq had WMD's, Bush had no choice but to invade. Saddam Hussein was out of control and attacking his neighbors.

 

If Iraq did move their WMD's to Syria then that's another failure by our intelligence agencies, not Bush.

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Natural Selection

Seventeen years in and the dude still can't articulate in a coherent manner.

 

He still can't understand what he sees or hears either.

 

That's how the leftist mind works. You put a little data in and it gets mangled by their indoctrinated thought process. What comes out has little resemblance to what went in. Their interpretation of Trump's comments are perfect examples.

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Dutch13
I work for an engineering firm and we do this from time to time. It's a straw man theory and no one is wrong. You put an idea out there and people start spitballing against that idea. Sometimes, a person will say something, it triggers a similar idea that is better and then you come up with a solution. I also do it in my mind when working on a woodworking project or something. I presumed everybody does this!

 

Nobody is arguing that he shouldn't be brainstorming behind closed doors. The problem is that he spitballs a terrible idea on national television. Half of America points out what a stupid idea it is and the other half scours the internet trying to find ANYTHING that is remotely close to serve as evidence that what he said was genius.

 

Meanwhile, he comes out the next day and tells the world he was just being sarcastic while talking about a virus that has killed a "reported" 50,000+ Americans in two months.

 

Not a good look for the President that should be coasting to victory against a democrat nominee that can't distinguish between his wife and his sister.

 

I assume that the President will resume his daily Press Briefings after walking out of last Friday's after only 20 minutes.

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Natural Selection

Nobody is arguing that he shouldn't be brainstorming behind closed doors. The problem is that he spitballs a terrible idea on national television.

 

Hard to spitball a thought to all of the researchers in the world while you're behind closed doors.

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Dutch13
Hard to spitball a thought to all of the researchers in the world while you're behind closed doors.

 

Yes, because the President of the United States has no access to researchers EXCEPT via his press conferences.

 

I wonder if he knows anybody that could put him in touch with the CDC.

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Natural Selection

Yes, because the President of the United States has no access to researchers EXCEPT via his press conferences.

 

I wonder if he knows anybody that could put him in touch with the CDC.

 

Yeah...I'm sure any leftists in that chain would be more than happy to pass along Trump's thoughts.

 

Trump bypasses the middlemen for a reason.

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MontyPython

Meanwhile, he comes out the next day and tells the world he was just being sarcastic while talking about a virus that has killed a "reported" 50,000+ Americans in two months.

 

First off - You know perfectly well even Trump's staunchest supporters have openly acknowledged his claim (the next day) that he was being "sarcastic" was dumb.

 

Second - I know you have already acknowledged the "50,000" number is almost certainly a deliberately and dishonestly inflated number.

 

But third - And most important - EVEN IF the 50,000 number was true, it still represents a number far smaller than the number who die every year from the common flu. His sarcasm remark might've been dumb, but so are the people who who are still insisting this coronavirus is worthy of all the government tyranny, lockdowns, lost jobs, bankrupted businesses, etc etc etc.

 

B)

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Lisa

Nobody is arguing that he shouldn't be brainstorming behind closed doors. The problem is that he spitballs a terrible idea on national television. Half of America points out what a stupid idea it is and the other half scours the internet trying to find ANYTHING that is remotely close to serve as evidence that what he said was genius.

 

Meanwhile, he comes out the next day and tells the world he was just being sarcastic while talking about a virus that has killed a "reported" 50,000+ Americans in two months.

 

Not a good look for the President that should be coasting to victory against a democrat nominee that can't distinguish between his wife and his sister.

 

I assume that the President will resume his daily Press Briefings after walking out of last Friday's after only 20 minutes.

 

 

I absolutely agree.

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zurg

Nobody is arguing that he shouldn't be brainstorming behind closed doors. The problem is that he spitballs a terrible idea on national television. Half of America points out what a stupid idea it is and the other half scours the internet trying to find ANYTHING that is remotely close to serve as evidence that what he said was genius.

 

Meanwhile, he comes out the next day and tells the world he was just being sarcastic while talking about a virus that has killed a "reported" 50,000+ Americans in two months.

 

Not a good look for the President that should be coasting to victory against a democrat nominee that can't distinguish between his wife and his sister.

 

I assume that the President will resume his daily Press Briefings after walking out of last Friday's after only 20 minutes.

Who are you to tell the president or anyone how they should run their briefings?

 

Just so you understand, your opinion IS NOT everyone’s opinion. I actually LIKE the occasional speculative thoughts off the cuff. Had it been Obama, you’d be falling over yourself to defend his unique style.

 

So: I’m not here to “defend” what Trump said from the viewpoint of “oh he shouldn’t have said it”. I like the what-ifs. It was OBVIOUS that it wasn’t a proposal of any kind. It was a what-if. These kinds of off the cuff remarks HELP when they come from the “CEO” level. They energize people. At least the right kind of, productive people.

 

Just so you know.

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Natural Selection
Not a good look for the President that should be coasting to victory against a democrat nominee that can't distinguish between his wife and his sister.

 

Who said he's not coasting to victory? The polls? :rofl:

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Dutch13
Posted (edited)

First off - You know perfectly well even Trump's staunchest supporters have openly acknowledged his claim (the next day) that he was being "sarcastic" was dumb.

 

Some are even humble enough to admit that was a BS excuse that he made up to cover up his idiotic suggestion.

 

 

But third - And most important - EVEN IF the 50,000 number was true, it still represents a number far smaller than the number who die every year from the common flu. His sarcasm remark might've been dumb, but so are the people who who are <b><i>still</i></b> insisting this coronavirus is worthy of all the government tyranny, lockdowns, lost jobs, bankrupted businesses, etc etc etc. <img src='http://www.rightnation.us/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img src='http://www.rightnation.us/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' />'

 

Maybe......but I doubt it.  Yes, it might currently be smaller than the number of flu deaths, but that is only because we shut the country down.  President Trump is one of those people insisting that we keep the government shut down.  

 

I am no expert, but it appears the flu is not as contagious AND we have a vaccine for the flu which works for most people.

 

If it isn't a serious virus, then why is the greatest President in the history of this solar system allowing our economy to be wrecked.  Why is he collaborating to put 26 million+ Americans out of work?

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zurg

If it isn't a serious virus, then why is the greatest President in the history of this solar system allowing our economy to be wrecked. Why is he collaborating to put 26 million+ Americans out of work?

Are you gonna come back tomorrow to tell us that was sarcasm? :whistling:

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Dutch13
Who are you to tell the president or anyone how they should run their briefings?

Just a voter.

 

Just so you understand, your opinion IS NOT everyone's opinion.

Based off my time here since President Trump announced his nomination, I figured that one out on my own.

 

I actually LIKE the occasional speculative thoughts off the cuff. Had it been Obama, you'd be falling over yourself to defend his unique style.

Yes, because not personally liking Trump automatically makes you an Obama lover. I am sure you can find pages and pages of me praising Obama. I was here for all 8 years of the Obama years so there have to tons of examples. Knock yourself out looking.

 

 

So: I'm not here to "defend" what Trump said from the viewpoint of "oh he shouldn't have said it". I like the what-ifs. It was OBVIOUS that it wasn't a proposal of any kind. It was a what-if. These kinds of off the cuff remarks HELP when they come from the "CEO" level. They energize people. At least the right kind of, productive people. Just so you know.

 

After that press conference, a quote started trending around research labs in America:

 

“President Trump, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

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RedSoloCup

I'm straight up, so take your "little honesty" comments and shove them up your ass. K?

 

 

This episode really reminds me of how Bush told you straight up that Iraq didn't have WMD program we invaded over and you STILL refused to admit it.

 

You get some false ideas your head for completely bad reasons and then keep doubling down on stupid.

 

:biglaugh:

 

Says the person who loves sticking stuff up his ass...like his head.

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RedSoloCup

You’ve spent a lot of effort to refute exactly nothing of what I said.

 

I said Monty has a history of stubbornly doubling down on stupid and as you can see from his post above not much has changed.

 

:crybaby2:

 

Pay up or shut up.

 

LOLOLOLOL

 

See? You've (once again) demonstrated the difference between us. Rather than just jumping on a bandwagon because it's something a politician said (in this case Bush) like you constantly do, I research the facts and evidence. For example, the fact that dozens of Hussein's own generals, scientists and political cronies openly admitted he DID have WMD...and documented the fact that all those truck convoys were busy smuggling them into Syria...and the otherwise-inexplicable WMDs Syria later possessed and used against their own citizens, even though they never had any program developing or building them...how all those factories & warehouses that were documented to be part of Iraq's WMD program were found completely empty, swept spotlessly clean when the invasion "failed" to find WMD, EVEN THOUGH ALL THOSE LOCATIONS WERE EXTREMELY BUSY DAY & NIGHT AT THE TIME THEY WERE REPORTED TO BE MAKING WMDs

 

(since I know you're not very bright I'll explain that last one in more detail: We're talking about locations that were extremely busy non-stop; People in & out all day & night...trucks in & out all day & night...machinery & equipment in & out all day & night, etc etc etc. In other words, even if they "weren't" part of a WMD program (:rolleyes:), there was SOMETHING important going on there. So how come right after all those truck convoys had smuggled all those WMDs into Syria and we invaded and inspected those locations, THERE WAS NOTHING LEFT THERE?? Not a speck of anything indicating any activity whatsoever. If there was nothing "bad" going on there, WHY did Iraq go to so much trouble sweeping them so spotlessly clean? If they were just building, say, stereos or microwave ovens or any of countless other perfectly-legal things, why was there NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER of stereos or microwaves or anything else remaining??)

 

And plenty more. Like the fact that WMDs were found after the invasion, but were dismissed by the political left as "too old"...or..."not very many"...or..."the wrong type"...etc.

 

I know that even most right-wingers...even most Bush supporters...even most Iraq invasion supporters...etc etc etc...are content to give up and believe there "weren't" any WMDs in Iraq (:rolleyes:). I know perfectly well damn few have inspected those facts as thoroughly as I have. I know perfectly well the overwhelming majority of all political stripes honestly believe the whole world was "wrong" about Saddam Hussein's WMDs.

 

Well they're mistaken. No matter what Bush said.

 

B)

 

:clap:

 

#InternetBitchslap

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MontyPython

Some are even humble enough to admit that was a BS excuse that he made up to cover up his idiotic suggestion.

 

What "suggestion"? I never heard him make any suggestion. What I heard was him ASKING "is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning...?"

 

Which part of that is a suggestion? Objective consideration proves it to be a question.

 

 

Maybe......but I doubt it.  Yes, it might currently be smaller than the number of flu deaths, but that is only because we shut the country down.  President Trump is one of those people insisting that we keep the government shut down.  

 

And I have no objection whatsoever to huge swaths of government being shut down.

 

 

I am no expert, but it appears the flu is not as contagious AND we have a vaccine for the flu which works for most people.

 

If it isn't a serious virus, then why is the greatest President in the history of this solar system allowing our economy to be wrecked.  Why is he collaborating to put 26 million+ Americans out of work?

 

While he is indeed a great president, the best we've had in decades (hardly the same thing as "the greatest President in the history of this solar system" but go ahead with the silly hyperbole), it doesn't mean he's always correct. Contrary to his enemies' idiotic claims that his supporters are "cultists" and "minions" who always agree with him and make excuses for him (the way Obama's supporters always agreed and made excuses for Obama), the overwhelming majority of us are objective thinkers who are capable of disagreeing with him when he's wrong.

 

And he's wrong about "collaborating" (:rolleyes: there goes that silly hyperbole again) in allowing our economy to be wrecked.

 

B)

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<br />What &quot;suggestion&quot;? I never heard him make any suggestion. What I heard was him ASKING <i>&quot;is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning...?&quot;</i><br /><br />Which part of that is a suggestion? <b><i>Objective</i></b> consideration proves it to be a question.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />And I have no objection whatsoever to huge swaths of <b><i>government</i></b> being shut down.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />While he is indeed a great president, the best we've had in decades (hardly the same thing as &quot;the greatest President in the history of this solar system&quot; but go ahead with the silly hyperbole), it doesn't mean he's always correct. Contrary to his enemies' idiotic claims that his supporters are &quot;cultists&quot; and &quot;minions&quot; who always agree with him and make excuses for him (the way Obama's supporters always agreed and made excuses for Obama), the overwhelming majority of us are objective thinkers who are capable of disagreeing with him when he's wrong.<br /><br />And he's wrong about &quot;collaborating&quot; (<img src='http://www.rightnation.us/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img src='http://www.rightnation.us/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' />' /> there goes that silly hyperbole again) in allowing our economy to be wrecked.<br /><br /> <img src='http://www.rightnation.us/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img src='http://www.rightnation.us/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' />' /><br />
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The above is what I see when I respond to any post.  It takes a lot of effort to delete all that gibberish.  Our favorite Boston sports fan will get a kick out of my technological failings. Does anybody else experience this or have a suggestion to fix this?

 

When I go to edit my own posts, it is the same.  

 

I noticed that I typed government.....but I thought, screw it, I am not wading through that mess to change one word.<br /><br />Whether you like the term collaborating or not, that is what is happening at the direction of Donald Trump.  Is he, and the rest of the world wrong?   Are you and the few folks that keep insisting it is no worse than the flu correct?

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I'm just going to leave this right here.

 

Chris Cuomo's wife Cristina is mocked for saying she bathed in CLOROX to treat coronavirus while the CNN host slams Trump's suggestion people could be infected (sic) with disinfectant

 


  • Cristina Cuomo says she put half a cup of Clorox in her bath twice a week as she battled against coronavirus
  • She says it was recommended to her by an energy medicine doctor
  • Social media users were quick to criticize its dangers
  • Clorox warns not to bath in the bleach on its website
  • It came as her husband Chris criticized President Trump on his CNN show for suggesting unorthodox coronavirus cures
  • Cristina and Chris Cuomo have recovered while their son Mario is still ill

 

By Frances Mulraney For Dailymail.com

Published: 09:45 EDT, 24 April 2020 | Updated: 17:18 EDT, 24 April 2020

 

More GFY-Fredo here

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Some are even humble enough to admit that was a BS excuse that he made up to cover up his idiotic suggestion.

 

I certainly said it was a BS excuse and it made him sound like a moron. However, this was not a recommendation or a suggestion. He asked a question. Nobody is responsible for other parties to deliberately misinterpret what he says. This is why your foaming panic on this non-story is makes you look like it is personal to you and therefore makes you an hysteric.

 

 

 

Maybe......but I doubt it. Yes, it might currently be smaller than the number of flu deaths, but that is only because we shut the country down. President Trump is one of those people insisting that we keep the government shut down.

 

I am no expert, but it appears the flu is not as contagious AND we have a vaccine for the flu which works for most people.

 

This is rich. You "doubt" that the number is inflated, even though there is piles of evidence that that is so. However, you are no "expert". Actually, since we have this ridiculous "lock down" and lies from China, we don't really know how contagious this truly is. This mass panic is not only killing us, it is setting a precedent for other politicians to exercise this kind of power in the future.

 

But it's okay to take liberty from citizens because "we don't have a vaccine".

 

If it isn't a serious virus, then why is the greatest President in the history of this solar system allowing our economy to be wrecked. Why is he collaborating to put 26 million+ Americans out of work?

 

Try not to be a dick. A serious virus is no excuse to shut down the country and nobody has the Constitutional right to do it, Trump, Whitmer, Pelosi, nobody. He was wrong to buy into it in the first place because it has allowed so many cartoon characters to dictate what so-called free citizens are allowed to do.

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MontyPython

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The above is what I see when I respond to any post.  It takes a lot of effort to delete all that gibberish.  Our favorite Boston sports fan will get a kick out of my technological failings. Does anybody else experience this or have a suggestion to fix this?

 

When I go to edit my own posts, it is the same.  

 

I noticed that I typed government.....but I thought, screw it, I am not wading through that mess to change one word.<br /><br />Whether you like the term collaborating or not, that is what is happening at the direction of Donald Trump.  Is he, and the rest of the world wrong?   Are you and the few folks that keep insisting it is no worse than the flu correct?

 

Lemme guess - You're using a phone instead of a computer...? I've seen such undecipherable gibberish from people who use phones to post.

 

:shrug:

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