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Ladybird

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The above is what I see when I respond to any post.  It takes a lot of effort to delete all that gibberish.  Our favorite Boston sports fan will get a kick out of my technological failings. Does anybody else experience this or have a suggestion to fix this?

 

When I go to edit my own posts, it is the same.  

 

I noticed that I typed government.....but I thought, screw it, I am not wading through that mess to change one word.<br /><br />Whether you like the term collaborating or not, that is what is happening at the direction of Donald Trump.  Is he, and the rest of the world wrong?   Are you and the few folks that keep insisting it is no worse than the flu correct?

 

That only happens to me on the blog part of this forum.

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Dutch13

This is rich.  You doubt that the number is inflated, even though there is piles of evidence that that is so.  However, you are no expert.  Actually, since we have this ridiculous lock down and lies from China, we don't really know how contagious this truly is.  This mass panic is not only killing us, it is setting a precedent for other politicians to exercise this kind of power in the future.

 

Second - I know you have already acknowledged the 50,000 number is almost certainly a deliberately and dishonestly inflated number.

 

I guess I should have included that statement in my post so someone wouldn't try to suggest something I didn't say.

 

 

But it's okay to take liberty from citizens because we don't have a vaccine.

 

If the virus is as contagious as everybody says, then we have a couple issues. Are there enough Clorox wipes or cans of Lysol available for all that we would need to open back up fully? I can't find either at Amazon, Office Depot, my local stores. I think the majority if probably being purchased by government entities and being dispersed to hospitals, state governments, etc.

 

I was fine with a complete and total VOLUNTARY shut down. Just like with a fire, if you eliminate it's fuel it will burn out. That was a huge ask of the American People and it never happened, so it has been made more painful. 26 million out of work and how do we actually judge where we are?

 

Try not to be a dick.  A serious virus is no excuse to shut down the country and nobody has the Constitutional right to do it, Trump, Whitmer, Pelosi, nobody.  He was wrong to buy into it in the first place because it has allowed so many cartoon characters to dictate what so-called free citizens are allowed to do.

 

Is it a serious virus or not? I think that you and I agree that it is. Others don't seem to think so. As to the Constitutionality of it, The Bill of Rights explicitly guarantee certain rights and protections to US citizens by limiting the power of the federal government. The states have more legal power to do so.

 

I like many things that President Trump has done over his term in office. I don't like his way of leading, though (I am not sure if that comes across to everybody). Outside of cutting of travel from China, I think he has done a terrible job since this whole thing began. I think he is 95% talk and 5% action.

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Dutch13
Lemme guess - You're using a phone instead of a computer...? I've seen such undecipherable gibberish from people who use phones to post.

 

No, a desktop computer. I used to use my ipad, but I had issues with it and the quote/time stamp. My favorite Boston sports fan used to rag me all the time about that.

 

This has only been a recent issue.

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MontyPython

No, a desktop computer. I used to use my ipad, but I had issues with it and the quote/time stamp. My favorite Boston sports fan used to rag me all the time about that.

 

This has only been a recent issue.

 

Then I have no idea what's causing your problems.

 

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zurg

Yes, because not personally liking Trump automatically makes you an Obama lover. I am sure you can find pages and pages of me praising Obama. I was here for all 8 years of the Obama years so there have to tons of examples. Knock yourself out looking.

 

 

After that press conference, a quote started trending around research labs in America:

 

“President Trump, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

1) Oh yeah? You would have jumped up and blasted Obama with the same? If you say so.

 

2) A quote trending around research labs....sorry, where? At Harvard? Okay, I buy that. How the heck could you know what goes on in multiple research labs anyway....unless Facebook or google told you that’s how it is.

 

3) Look - you often tell people here basically that “you folks aren’t objective regarding Trump”. So? You’re no more objective regarding Trump. EVERYONE is subjective. It’s called having an opinion.

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I guess I should have included that statement in my post so someone wouldn't try to suggest something I didn't say.

 

It looks like you said you doubted, contrary to piles of evidence, that the death numbers are exaggerated. I could have misinterpreted you. Of course, according to your standard, that is your fault.

 

If the virus is as contagious as everybody says, then we have a couple issues. Are there enough Clorox wipes or cans of Lysol available for all that we would need to open back up fully? I can't find either at Amazon, Office Depot, my local stores. I think the majority if probably being purchased by government entities and being dispersed to hospitals, state governments, etc.

 

Maybe, maybe not. However, I don't concede that it is as contagious as everybody says. They don't really know because we don't really have any true data to say it is or not.

 

I was fine with a complete and total VOLUNTARY shut down. Just like with a fire, if you eliminate it's fuel it will burn out. That was a huge ask of the American People and it never happened, so it has been made more painful. 26 million out of work and how do we actually judge where we are?

 

Since I never agreed with a shut down in the first place, (Once the government gets involved, there is no "voluntary".) I don't have an answer for you. I think the government should keep us posted, recommend people, like myself with risky health issues to quarantine themselves and then get the hell out of the way and leave us alone.

 

Is it a serious virus or not? I think that you and I agree that it is. Others don't seem to think so. As to the Constitutionality of it, The Bill of Rights explicitly guarantee certain rights and protections to US citizens by limiting the power of the federal government. The states have more legal power to do so.

 

I think all flu viruses are serious. I don't believe that the evidence shows that this one is any more deadly than another. And the states do not have the authority take away, suspend or in any way impede with Constitutional rights. I've said this many times, we either have rights or we don't. If they can be suspended, they are not rights.

 

I like many things that President Trump has done over his term in office. I don't like his way of leading, though (I am not sure if that comes across to everybody). Outside of cutting of travel from China, I think he has done a terrible job since this whole thing began. I think he is 95% talk and 5% action.

 

You have posted more on the injection non-story than you have on any subject for months. This is simply hysteria and shows that you are also prejudiced, so I take your analysis with a grain of salt. . I totally disagree with the shut down and think once he allowed this to happen, he blew it. He seems to be encouraging the world to open up again, albeit on a limited basis. Id like him to get out of the way, but we know he can't. What do you want him to do?

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zurg
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I like many things that President Trump has done over his term in office. I don't like his way of leading, though (I am not sure if that comes across to everybody). Outside of cutting of travel from China, I think he has done a terrible job since this whole thing began. I think he is 95% talk and 5% action.

I think Trump has done an excellent job with coronavirus. He instructed Pence very well, and Pence has worked tirelessly and done a great job. The team is a good balance of public health experts and political/economy experts. Trump has taken decisive action all along - one of his greatest being 100% constitutional, giving the states the right to handle their own boundaries. Trump has been 95% action and 5% talk.

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Severian

No, a desktop computer. I used to use my ipad, but I had issues with it and the quote/time stamp. My favorite Boston sports fan used to rag me all the time about that.

 

This has only been a recent issue.

Windows or Mac?

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Dutch13
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I think Trump has done an excellent job with coronavirus. He instructed Pence very well, and Pence has worked tirelessly and done a great job. The team is a good balance of public health experts and political/economy experts. Trump has taken decisive action all along - one of his greatest being 100% constitutional, giving the states the right to handle their own boundaries. Trump has been 95% action and 5% talk.

Are you being serious about giving the states the right to handle their own boundaries? If so, thank God he lets us have our other rights too!!

 

I almost canceled my vacation on February 16 to Florida because of this virus.  I didn't cancel because there were supposedly no reported cases here or there.  It was in America at that point in Washington, California, and New York.  We know what China was doing in their country because we were seeing video's of empty streets and armed men in masks patrolling the streets.  

 

How many tests has the United States produced and when did we start making them?  You can only physically make what you are capable of......but have we ramped up production of them?  When did we ramp up production?  Did we only do that because Andrew Cuomo was on TV every day demanding that the President do his job?  

 

Can you give me some examples of this decisive action?

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Windows or Mac?

 

Windows

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Severian

Windows

Well, there goes that theory. I've seen similar in mac/windows incompatibilities before, same as shows up in win/iOS things, the odd characters inserted instead of quote marks and parentheses and such.

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Well, there goes that theory. I've seen similar in mac/windows incompatibilities before, same as shows up in win/iOS things, the odd characters inserted instead of quote marks and parentheses and such.

 

When I first read your post I thought you said Mac Users where odd characters... I think I need new glasses... BADLY

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First off - You know perfectly well even Trump's staunchest supporters have openly acknowledged his claim (the next day) that he was being "sarcastic" was dumb.

 

Second - I know you have already acknowledged the "50,000" number is almost certainly a deliberately and dishonestly inflated number.

 

But third - And most important - EVEN IF the 50,000 number was true, it still represents a number far smaller than the number who die every year from the common flu. His sarcasm remark might've been dumb, but so are the people who who are still insisting this coronavirus is worthy of all the government tyranny, lockdowns, lost jobs, bankrupted businesses, etc etc etc.

 

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Exactly! What ticks me off is who is considered essential and who isn't? Also, how come Home Depot has lines out the door and are letting people in making sure that there aren't too many people too close, and my grocery store doesn't care (except at checkouts). If this was as bad as they are/aren't telling us, than how come there is so little consistancy even in the same state. We can't go to restaurant to eat because people can't be too close to each other (yet fast food has 6-7 workers in a very confined area - so it's ok for workers but not for customers). What's up with that?

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MontyPython

Exactly! What ticks me off is who is considered essential and who isn't? Also, how come Home Depot has lines out the door and are letting people in making sure that there aren't too many people too close, and my grocery store doesn't care (except at checkouts). If this was as bad as they are/aren't telling us, than how come there is so little consistancy even in the same state. We can't go to restaurant to eat because people can't be too close to each other (yet fast food has 6-7 workers in a very confined area - so it's ok for workers but not for customers). What's up with that?

 

Yup, exactly. I'll decide for myself what's essential and what isn't, thankyouverymuch.

 

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Are you being serious about giving the states the right to handle their own boundaries? If so, thank God he lets us have our other rights too!!

 

I almost canceled my vacation on February 16 to Florida because of this virus.  I didn't cancel because there were supposedly no reported cases here or there.  It was in America at that point in Washington, California, and New York.  We know what China was doing in their country because we were seeing video's of empty streets and armed men in masks patrolling the streets.  

 

How many tests has the United States produced and when did we start making them?  You can only physically make what you are capable of......but have we ramped up production of them?  When did we ramp up production?  Did we only do that because Andrew Cuomo was on TV every day demanding that the President do his job?  

 

Can you give me some examples of this decisive action?

Do you work for CNN? They ask questions exactly like that. So, what exactly is your accusation? Maybe we can start with the specifics.

 

Testing has ramped up. They didn’t take the South Korean test because of its high false positive and false negative rates. Would you think it’s a good idea to have 10% or more of your tested people have the wrong result?

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Asking how many tests the US has produced is akin to working for CNN? Asking how we have ramped up our production capabilities is like working for CNN?

 

Those are relevant questions as we peons sit here in the dark waiting for our government overlords to give us permission to leave our homes, don’t you think? Tests seem kind of mandatory before we try to resume some sort of normalcy....seems kind of important information for the government (i.e. The President) to provide us. The lack of facts doesn't give me a lot of confidence. He brags so much about everything, seems like he would be trumpeting that info.

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Asking how many tests the US has produced is akin to working for CNN? Asking how we have ramped up our production capabilities is like working for CNN?

 

Those are relevant questions as we peons sit here in the dark waiting for our government overlords to give us permission to leave our homes, don’t you think? Tests seem kind of mandatory before we try to resume some sort of normalcy....seems kind of important information for the government (i.e. The President) to provide us. The lack of facts doesn't give me a lot of confidence. He brags so much about everything, seems like he would be trumpeting that info.

So you don’t believe hospitals, clinics, and doctors’ offices have access to testing? Have you heard of Lab Corp and Quest and even CVS and Walgreens? Have you heard of drive-through testing sites? Why don’t you look for their capacity projections and statements in every state? Why does Trump have to be able to rattle off exactly who’s doing what out there? The capability and permits are being and have been ushered through, don’t you think the next level of facilities need to actually do something? Or do they all need a personal okay from Trump to start running tests?

 

And when Trump’s medical experts in his task force answer the questions, and Trump steps completely out of the way, why does Trump not get any credit? I thought all of you anti-Trump people wanted him to let the experts talk. Fauci has stated several times that Trump is not doing anything to muzzle him or the other medical experts. What more do you want?

 

It seems to me that when you ask your questions the way you do, you either don’t understand the distributed nature of the overall operation, or you’re not interested in anything other than seeing if Trump trips up somehow so you can bitch about it. That’s why you sound like CNN.

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Natural Selection

Can you give me some examples of this decisive action?

 

TIMELINE: THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION’S DECISIVE ACTIONS TO COMBAT THE CORONAVIRUS

 

December 31: China reports the discovery of the coronavirus to the World Health Organization.

 

January 3: CDC Director Robert Redfield sent an email to the director of the Chinese CDC, George Gao, formally offering to send U.S. experts to China to investigate the coronavirus.

 

January 5: CDC Director Redfield sent another email to the Chinese CDC Director, George Gao, formally offering to send U.S. experts to China to investigate the coronavirus outbreak,

 

January 6: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued a level I travel notice for Wuhan, China due to the spreading coronavirus.

 

January 7: The CDC established a coronavirus incident management system to better share and respond to information about the virus.

 

January 11: The CDC updated a Level 1 travel health notice for Wuhan, China.

 

January 17: The CDC began implementing public health entry screening at the 3 U.S. airports that received the most travelers from Wuhan – San Francisco, New York JFK, and Los Angeles.

 

January 20: Dr. Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health is already working on the development of a vaccine for the coronavirus.

 

January 21: The CDC activated its emergency operations center to provide ongoing support to the coronavirus response.

 

January 23: The CDC sought a “special emergency authorization” from the FDA to allow states to use its newly developed coronavirus test.

 

January 27: President Trump tweeted that he made an offer to President Xi Jinping to send experts to China to investigate the coronavirus outbreak.

 

January 27: The CDC issued a level III travel health notice urging Americans to avoid all nonessential travel to China due to the coronavirus.

 

January 27: The White House Coronavirus Task Force started meeting to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the President.

 

January 29: The White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the President.

 

January 31: The Trump Administration:

 

Declared the coronavirus a public health emergency.

 

Announced Chinese travel restrictions.

 

Suspended entry into the United States for foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the coronavirus.

January 31: The Department of Homeland Security took critical steps to funnel all flights from China into just 7 domestic U.S. airports.

 

February 3: The CDC had a team ready to travel to China to obtain critical information on the novel coronavirus, but were in the U.S. awaiting permission to enter by the Chinese government.

 

February 2: The CDC expanded enhanced entry screening to eight major airports across the nation.

 

February 4: President Trump vowed in his State of the Union Address to “take all necessary steps” to protect Americans from the coronavirus.

 

February 5: The Trump Administration and health officials briefed lawmakers on the Federal Government's coronavirus response efforts.

 

February 6: The CDC began shipping CDC-Developed test kits for the 2019 Novel Coronavirus to U.S. and international labs.

 

February 7: President Trump told reporters that the CDC is working with China on the coronavirus.

 

February 9: The White House Coronavirus Task Force briefed governors from across the nation at the National Governors’ Association Meeting in Washington.

 

February 11: The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) expanded a partnership with Janssen Research & Development to “expedite the development” of a coronavirus vaccine.

 

February 12: The U.S. shipped test kits for the 2019 novel coronavirus to approximately 30 countries who lacked the necessary reagents and other materials.

 

February 12: The CDC was prepared to travel to China but had yet to receive permission from the Chinese government.

 

February 14: The CDC began working with five labs to conduct “community-based influenza surveillance” to study and detect the spread of coronavirus.

 

February 18: HHS announced it would engage with Sanofi Pasteur in an effort to quickly develop a coronavirus vaccine and to develop treatment for coronavirus infections.

 

February 22: A WHO team of international experts arrives in Wuhan, China.

 

February 24: The Trump Administration sent a letter to Congress requesting at least $2.5 billion to help combat the spread of the coronavirus.

 

Febraury 25: HHS Secretary Azar testified before the Senate HELP committee on the Administration's coronavirus response efforts.

 

February 26: President Trump discussed coronavirus containment efforts with Indian PM Modi and updated the press on his Administration’s containment efforts in the U.S. during his state visit to India.

 

February 29: The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) allowed certified labs to develop and begin testing coronavirus testing kits while reviewing pending applications.

 

February 29: The Trump Administration:

 

Announced a level 4 travel advisory to areas of Italy and South Korea.

 

Barred all travel to Iran.

 

Barred the entry of foreign citizens who visited Iran in the last 14 days.

 

March 3: The CDC lifted federal restrictions on coronavirus testing to allow any American to be tested for coronavirus, “subject to doctor’s orders.”

 

March 3: The White House announced President Trump donated his fourth quarter salary to fight the coronavirus.

 

March 4: The Trump Administration announced the purchase of approximately 500 million N95 respirators over the next 18 months to respond to the outbreak of the novel coronavirus.

 

March 4: Secretary Azar announced that HHS was transferring $35 million to the CDC to help state and local communities that have been impacted most by the coronavirus.

 

March 6: President Trump signed an $8.3 billion bill to fight the coronavirus outbreak.

 

The bill provides $7.76 billion to federal, state, & local agencies to combat the coronavirus and authorizes an additional $500 million in waivers for Medicare telehealth restrictions.

 

March 9: President Trump called on Congress to pass a payroll tax cut over coronavirus.

 

March 10: President Trump and VP Pence met with top health insurance companies and secured a commitment to waive co-pays for coronavirus testing.

 

March 11: President Trump:

 

Announced travel restrictions on foreigners who had visited Europe in the last 14 days.

 

Directed the Small Business Administration to issue low-interest loans to affected small businesses and called on congress to increase this fund by $50 billion.

 

Directed the Treasury Department to defer tax payments for affected individuals & businesses, & provide $200 billion in “additional liquidity.”

 

Met with American bankers at the White House to discuss coronavirus.

March 13: President Trump declared a national emergency in order to access $42 billion in existing funds to combat the coronavirus.

 

March 13: President Trump announced:

 

Public-private partnerships to open up drive-through testing collection sites.

 

A pause on interest payments on federal student loans.

 

An order to the Department of Energy to purchase oil for the strategic petroleum reserve.

March 13: The Food & Drug Administration:

 

Granted Roche AG an emergency approval for automated coronavirus testing kits.

 

Issued an emergency approval to Thermo Fisher for a coronavirus test within 24 hours of receiving the request.

March 13: HHS announced funding for the development of two new rapid diagnostic tests, which would be able to detect coronavirus in approximately 1 hour.

 

March 14: The Coronavirus Relief Bill passed the House of Representatives.

 

March 14: The Trump Administration announced the European travel ban will extend to the UK and Ireland.

 

March 15: President Trump held a phone call with over two dozen grocery store executives to discuss on-going demand for food and other supplies.

 

March 15: HHS announced it is projected to have 1.9 million COVID-19 tests available in 2,000 labs this week.

 

March 15: Google announced a partnership with the Trump Administration to develop a website dedicated to coronavirus education, prevention, & local resources.

 

March 15: All 50 states were contacted through FEMA to coordinate “federally-supported, state-led efforts” to end coronavirus.

 

March 16: President Trump:

 

Held a tele-conference with governors to discuss coronavirus preparedness and response.

 

Participated in a call with G7 leaders who committed to increasing coordination in response to the coronavirus and restoring global economic confidence.

 

Announced that the first potential vaccine for coronavirus has entered a phase one trial in a record amount of time.

 

Announced “15 days to slow the spread” coronavirus guidance.

March 16: The FDA announced it was empowering states to authorize tests developed and used by labs in their states.

 

March 16: Asst. Secretary for Health confirmed the availability of 1 million coronavirus tests, and projected 2 million tests available the next week and 5 million the following.

 

March 17: President Trump announced:

 

CMS will expand telehealth benefits for Medicare beneficiaries.

 

Relevant Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act penalties will not be enforced.

 

The Army Corps of Engineers is on ”standby” to assist federal & state governments.

March 17: President Trump spoke to fast food executives from Wendy’s, McDonald’s and Burger King to discuss drive-thru services recommended by CDC

 

March 17: President Trump met with tourism industry representatives along with industrial supply, retail, and wholesale representatives.

 

March 17: Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin met with lawmakers to discuss stimulus measures to relieve the economic burden of coronavirus on certain industries, businesses, and American workers.

 

March 17: Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue announced a partnership between USDA, Baylor University, McLane Global, and Pepsi Co. to provide one million meals per weak to rural children in response to widespread school closures.

 

March 17: The Treasury Department:

 

Contributed $10 billion through the economic stabilization fund to the Federal Reserve’s commercial paper funding facility.

 

Deferred $300 billion in tax payments for 90 days without penalty, up to $1 million for individuals & $10 million for business.

March 17: The Department of Defense announced it will make available to HHS up to five million respirator masks and 2,000 ventilators.

 

March 18: President Trump signed the Families First Coronavirus Response Act, which provides free testing and paid sick leave for workers impacted by the coronavirus.

 

March 18: President Trump announced:

 

Temporary closure of the U.S.-Canada border to non-essential traffic.

 

Plans to invoke the Defense Production Act in order to increase the number of necessary supplies needed to combat coronavirus.

 

FEMA has been activated in every region at its highest level of response.

 

The U.S. Navy will deploy USNS Comfort and USNS Mercy hospital ships.

 

All foreclosures and evictions will be suspended for a period of time.

March 18: Secretary of Defense Mark Esper confirmed:

 

1 million masks are now immediately available.

 

The Army Corps of Engineers is in NY consulting on how to best assist state officials.

March 18: HHS temporarily suspended a regulation that prevents doctors from practicing across state lines.

 

March 18: President Trump spoke to:

 

Doctors, physicians, and nurses on the front lines containing the spread of coronavirus.

 

130 CEOs of the Business Roundtable to discuss on-going public-private partnerships in response to the coronavirus pandemic.

 

March 19: President Trump announced:

 

Very encouraging progress shown by anti-malaria drug Hydroxychloroquine for fighting coronavirus.

 

Carnival Cruise Lines will make ships available for use as hospitals in impacted areas to use for non-coronavirus patients.

March 19: Vice President Pence announced tens of thousands of ventilators have been identified that can be converted to treat patients.

 

March 19: The State Department issued a global level 4 health advisory, telling Americans to avoid all international travel due to coronavirus.

 

March 19: President Trump directed FEMA to take the lead on the Federal Government’s coronavirus response & visited FEMA HQ with Vice President Pence for a video call with Governors.

 

March 20: The U.S. and Mexico agree to mutually restrict nonessential cross-border traffic.

 

March 20: Secretary Mnuchin announced at the direction of President Trump that tax day will be moved from April 15 to July 15 for all taxpayers and businesses.

 

March 20: President Trump:

 

Spoke with Sen. Schumer about coronavirus response & stimulus measures

 

Held a call with over 12,000 small business owners to discuss relief efforts

 

Announced the CDC will invoke Title 42 to provide border patrol with tools to secure the borders

March 20: The Department of Education announced it will:

 

Not enforce standardized testing requirements for the remainder of the school year

 

Allow federal student loan borrowers to stop payments without penalty for 60 days

March 20: Secretary Azar announced:

 

FEMA is coordinating and assisting coronavirus testing at labs across the country

 

The CDC is suspending all illegal entries to the country based on the public health threat, via Section 362 of the Public Health & Security Act

March 20: Secretary Azar sent a letter to all 50 Governors that the federal government is buying and making available 200,000 testing swabs

 

March 21: Vice President Pence announced to date over 195,000 Americans tested for coronavirus and have received their results

 

March 21: The Trump Administration announced HHS placed an order for hundreds of millions of N95 masks through FEMA

 

March 21: The FDA announced it had given emergency approval to a new coronavirus test that delivers results in hours, with an intended rollout of March 30

 

March 21: Adm. Giroir confirmed 10 million testing kits had been put into the commercial market from March 2 through March 14

 

March 22: President Trump approved major disaster declarations for:

 

Washington State

 

California

March 22: President Trump announced:

 

Governors will remain in command of National Guard forces & the federal govt will fund 100% of operations cost

 

He directed the federal govt to provide 4 large federal medical stations with 2,000 beds for CA & 1,000 beds for NY & WA.

March 22: President Trump confirmed his administration was working with Peru & Honduras to return Americans stranded in both countries as a result of travel restrictions.

 

March 22: Vice President Pence announced:

 

The testing backlog will be resolved by midweek.

 

To date, over 254,000 Americans have been tested for coronavirus and received their results.

March 22: President Trump announced that the USNS Mercy will be deployed to Los Angeles.

 

March 22: FEMA issued guidance for tribal governments to seek federal assistance under the President’s emergency declaration.

 

March 23: President Trump signed an executive order invoking section 4512 of the Defense Production Act to prohibit the hoarding of vital medical supplies.

 

March 23: VP Pence announced:

 

313,000 Americans were tested for the coronavirus & received results.

 

FEMA established a supply chain stabilization task force so Americans get supplies they need.

 

HHS will have commercial labs prioritize testing for hospitalized patients.

March 23: The White House Office of Science & Technology Policy announced a public-private consortium to:

 

Advance coronavirus research.

 

Provide access to computing technology and resources for researchers.

March 23: Attorney General Barr announced:

 

The Justice Department held a National Task Force meeting on hoarding and price gouging.

 

Each of the 93 U.S. Attorney General offices is designating a lead prosectuor to prevent hoarding.

March 23: President Trump announced HHS is working to designate essential medical supplies as “scarce” to prohibit hoarding of these items.

 

March 23: The Treasury Department announced it is working with the Federal Reserve to lend up to $300 billion to businesses and local governments.

 

March 24: President Trump announced the Army Corps of Engineers & the National Guard are constructing four hospitals and four medical centers in New York.

 

March 24: President Trump approved a major disaster declaration for the state of Iowa related to the coronavirus outbreak.

 

March 24: Vice President Pence:

 

Confirmed FEMA sent New York 2,000 ventilators.

 

Announced individuals who have recently been in New York should self-quarantine for 14 days.

March 24: Dr. Deborah Birx announced the U.S. has conducted more coronavirus tests in the last week than South Korea has over the prior eight weeks.

 

March 24: The U.S. Army issued orders for three army hospitals to deploy their health care professionals to New York and Washington state, at the direction of Secretary of the Army Ryan McCarthy.

 

March 25: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the #coronavirus outbreak for:

 

Texas

 

Florida

 

North Carolina

March 25: President Trump & Vice President Pence held a conference call with 140 non-profit organization leaders, including The Salvation Army & The Red Cross, to discuss coronavirus response efforts.

 

March 25: President Trump signed a bill reauthorizing The Older Americans Act, which supports senior citizens by providing meals, transportation, and other crucial services.

 

March 25: Vice President Pence

 

Held a conference call with equipment manufacturers to discuss on-going coronavirus response efforts.

 

Announced 432,000 Americans have been tested for coronavirus and received results.

 

Confirmed 4,000 ventilators were delivered to New York.

March 25: Vice President Pence held discussions with multiple governors, including the Governor of Indiana & the Governor of Michigan

 

March 26: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

 

Illinois

 

New Jersey

 

Maryland

 

Missouri

March 26: President Trump announced the USNS Comfort will depart for NYC on Saturday to assist in the coronavirus response – 3 weeks ahead of schedule!

 

March 26: President Trump participated in a video conference with the leaders of the G20 to discuss the global coronavirus response & the need for countries to share information and data on the spread of the virus.

 

March 26: President Trump held a phone call with Chinese President Xi Jinping to discuss the coronavirus.

 

March 26: Vice President Pence announced 552,000 Americans have been tested for coronavirus and received their results.

 

March 26: Dr. Fauci announced the Federal Government is working with companies to speed up production of potential coronavirus vaccines while those drugs are still in the trial phase.

 

March 27: President Trump signed The Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act into law.

 

March 27: President Trump signed a Defense Production Act memorandum ordering General Motors (GM) "to accept, perform, and prioritize federal contractors for ventilators.

 

March 27: President Trump signed an executive order allowing the military to activate members of the Selected Reserve and Ready Reserve to active duty to assist with the Federal response to the coronavirus.

 

March 27: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

 

South Carolina

 

Puerto Rico

March 27: President Trump appointed Office of Trade and Manufacturing policy director Peter Navarro to serve as the Defense Production Act Policy Coordinator.

 

March 27: President Trump announced that 100,000 ventilators are projected to be manufactured in the next 100 days, three times the amount typically manufactured in one year.

 

March 27: President Trump announced that Boeing offered the use of three "Dreamlifter" cargo air crafts to transport medical supplies across the country.

 

March 27: Partnering with FEMA, the CDC, and the Coronavirus Task Force, Apple released a coronavirus app which allows users to screen for their symptoms.

 

March 27: President Trump spoke with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson about the global coronavirus response and committed to helping provide ventilators to the U.K. where possible.

 

March 27: Vice President Pence announced that 685,000 Americans have been tested for coronavirus and received their test results.

 

March 27: Emory University began enrolling participants for a phase one clinical trial, sponsored by the NIH's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), of a new, potential coronavirus vaccine.

 

March 27: FEMA Administrator Pete Gaynor spoke to the director of each of the state's emergency operations about the state-led, federally-supported coronavirus response effort.

 

March 27: The USNS Mercy arrived in the port of Los Angeles to help relieve the strain on hospital facilities in Southern California.

 

March 28: President Trump visited Norfolk, VA to send off the USNS Comfort to New York City where it will help relieve the strain on local hospitals.

 

March 28: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

 

Guam

 

Michigan

 

Massachusetts

 

Kentucky

 

Colorado

March 28: President Trump spoke with New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis regarding the coronavirus response effort.

 

March 28: The CDC issued new guidance for residents of New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut to avoid non-essential domestic travel for 14 days to #StopTheSpread of the coronavirus within the U.S.

 

March 29: President Trump announced that CDC guidelines will be extended through April 30 to promote #socialdistancing and other measures to stop the spread of the #coronavirus.

 

March 29: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

 

Connecticut

 

Oregon

 

Georgia

 

Washington DC

March 29: President Trump met with supply chain distributors including FedEx, Cardinal Health, and UPS to discuss ways to get state and local governments necessary medical supplies to combat the coronavirus.

 

March 29: President Trump congratulated the Army Corps of Engineers for having completed construction on a 2,900 bedroom temporary hospital at the Javits Center in New York.

 

March 29: President Trump tweeted his support for the FDA to expedite the approval process to approve mask sterilization equipment produced by Battelle.

 

March 29: President Trump announced the on-going study of 1,100 patients in New York being treated with Hydroxychloroquine for coronavirus.

 

March 29: President Trump directed the Treasury & Labor Departments to look at reinstating deductions of business expenses at restaurants, bars, and entertainment businesses to help the hospitality industry.

 

March 29: The first "Project Airbridge" shipment of medical supplies from abroad, organized by FEMA, landed at JFK airport, carrying 80 tons of masks, face shields, and other vital medical supplies.

 

March 29: President Trump announced that Cigna and Humana are waving co-pays for coronavirus treatment.

 

March 29: Vice President Pence sent a letter to hospital administrators requesting that hospitals across the country report their coronavirus data to the Federal Government in addition to state authorities.

 

March 29: Adm. Giroir announced that 894,000 Americans have been tested for coronavirus and received their results.

 

March 29: HHS accepted 30 million doses of Hydroxychloroquine, donated by Sandoz, and one million doses of Chloroquine, donated by Bayer Pharmaceuticals, for clinical trials and possible treatment of coronavirus patients.

 

March 30: President Trump announced that one million Americans have been tested for coronavirus and received their results.

 

March 30: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

 

Alabama

 

Kansas

 

Pennsylvania

 

Rhode Island

March 30: Secretary Azar announced that the FDA has approved Battelle’s N95 mask sanitization process for use to decontaminate tens of thousands of masks per day.

 

March 30: President Trump announced further private sector commitments to manufacture personal protective equipment by MyPillow, Honeywell, Jockey, Procter & Gamble, and United Technologies.

 

March 30: President Trump announced, to date, FEMA has dedicated $1.3 billion to assist New York State’s coronavirus response.

 

March 30: President Trump announced “more than 14,000” National Guard service members have been activated to respond to the coronavirus outbreak.

 

March 30: President Trump spoke with the nation’s governors about their need for medical supplies.

 

March 30: President Trump announced that in the coming days the Federal Government will be delivering:

 

400 ventilators to Michigan

 

300 ventilators to New Jersey

 

150 ventilators to Louisiana

 

150 ventilators to Illinois

 

50 ventilators to Connecticut

March 30: President Trump spoke to Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte of Italy and pledged to send $100 million of medical supplies to aid Italy’s battle against coronavirus.

 

March 30: Answering President Trump’s call for the private sector to join the fight against the #coronavirus, Ford Motor Company committed to producing 50,000 ventilators in the next 100 days.

 

March 30: On coronavirus testing, Secretary Azar announced that the U.S. is currently testing nearly 100,000 samples per day.

 

March 30: HHS took steps to accelerate a clinical trial of a potential coronavirus vaccine developed by Janssen Research & Development.

 

March 30: CMS announced new regulatory changes to cut red tape and give flexibility to America’s health care workers by relaxing hospital workforce regulations, expanding child care, meal, and laundry services for health care workers, expanding tele-health reimbursement, and more.

 

March 30: The USNS Comfort arrived in New York Harbor, providing more than 1,000 more hospital beds for patients without coronavirus, to relieve pressure on local hospitals.

 

March 30: The USNS Mercy began treating patients in Los Angeles.

 

March 31: President Trump officially issued “30 Days To Slow The Spread” guidance to mitigate the outbreak of coronavirus.

 

March 31: President Trump approved major disaster declarations related to the coronavirus outbreak for:

 

Ohio

 

Montana

March 31: President Trump participated in a conference call with executives of American Network Service Providers to promote connectivity amid social distancing.

 

March 31: President Trump announced that the federal government is stockpiling 10,000 ventilators to be urgently distributed as needed once the coronavirus pandemic hits its peak in the U.S.

 

March 31: President Trump announced that the Treasury Department and SBA are rapidly mobilizing money from the CARES Act’s $349 billion paycheck protection program, with the program set to be “up and running” by April 3.

 

March 31: President Trump spoke to Michigan Governor Whitmer about the state’s need for ventilators.

 

March 31: President Trump announced the Army Corps of Engineers & FEMA will construct:

 

8 facilities with 50,000 bed capacity in California

 

A field hospital with 250 bed capacity in Michigan

 

2 field hospitals in Louisiana with 500 bed capacity

 

An alternative care sight in New Orleans with a 3,000 bed capacity

March 31: President Trump spoke with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan about the international effort to defeat the coronavirus and support the global economy.

 

March 31: President Trump and the First Lady spoke with their Majesties King Felipe VI and Queen Letizia of Spain about efforts to combat the coronavirus.

 

March 31: Vice President Pence announced that 10 states now have access to federal funding for The National Guard to respond to the coronavirus outbreak.

 

March 31: Vice President Pence announced that 17,000 National Guard Servicemen have been activated across the country to assist in the coronavirus response.

 

March 31: Vice President Pence announced that 1.1 million coronavirus tests have been completed.

 

March 31: Adm. Giroir & Surgeon General Adams issued an open letter to the U.S. health care community about how to optimize the use of ventilators.

 

March 31: The FDA issued an emergency use authorization for a two-minute coronavirus antibody test developed by Bodysphere Inc.

 

March 31: The Treasury Department and IRS launched the employee retention credit, created by the CARES Act to incentivize businesses to keep their employees on payroll, and said businesses can begin using it.

 

March 31: The VA announced that it had expanded virtual services to veterans, continuing to provide care while limiting in-person interactions that could potentially harm vulnerable populations at VA facilities.

 

(click here for April and beyond...)

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JerryL

I missed the gender of the poster. So what? Unlike what she missed, it doesn't invalidate my argument.

 

 

I don't see any evidence that this is what he was referring to. Or that it's "disinfecting" in the way that word is normally used.

 

It's weird and wrong for Trump to be selling specific promising but unproven treatments in this way. There are lots of treatments that show enough promise to be worth investigating. Most of them, upon further trials and investigation, will turn out to not be helpful or do more harm than good. That's the nature of medicine, most new medicines fail in clinical trials.

 

That's not a reason not to be cautiously optimistic overall. There are a number of promising treatments and I'm hopeful that one or more will work out. But we shouldn't be putting our eggs in one basket and Trump over-hyping one or two treatments the way Trump has.

 

 

Is this inconsistent with anything I said?

 

I'm not saying it's not a real or legitimate treatment. I'm saying it's not at all clear this is what Trump was referring to and if it was, he butchered his description of it.

Get a grip, Tim.

 

He wasn't "referring to" anything. He asked a freaking question. It has already been cited in this thread.

 

"and is there a way we could do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning,"

 

Now you may think it is a stupid question...I probably would not have asked it on national TV...but your insinuation that he believed that this was something that you could do and that he referred to any specific treatment are false.

 

STOP!

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JerryL

Seventeen years in and the dude still can't articulate in a coherent manner. Years ago, someone gave him the excuse that english was not his first language. All these years posting here and he sounds as stupid as he did on his first post.

 

But hey, we are the stupid ones. cool_shades.gif

He came here as a freaking kid and went through the majority of his growing up and his schooling here. Still can't produce a coherent sentence and his "this isn't my first language" excuse was always lazy assed BS.

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JerryL

I absolutely agree.

Me too.

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Posted (edited)

Get a grip, Tim.

 

He wasn't "referring to" anything. He asked a freaking question. It has already been cited in this thread.

 

"and is there a way we could do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning,"

 

Now you may think it is a stupid question...I probably would not have asked it on national TV...but your insinuation that he believed that this was something that you could do and that he referred to any specific treatment are false.

 

STOP!

If you read Zurg's and Kestrel's posts which I was responding to, they did talk about a specific treatment as if that was Trump referring to. I made an argument that assumed Zurg's premise that it was referring to a specific treatment for the sake of argument.

 

Before doing so, I contested that premise by saying I "don't see any evidence of it". I also later said to Kestrel that it's "not at all clear" if he was referring to a specific argument. And I also said earlier in the thread that "What he [Trump] said was at best nonsensical."

 

If you don't like people projecting a specific treatment onto his remarks, why aren't you taking it up with the two posters that I was responding to instead of getting mad at me for addressing their arguments on their terms?

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JerryL

If you read Zurg's and Kestrel's posts which I was responding to, they did talk about a specific treatment as if that was Trump referring to. I made an argument that assumed Zurg's premise that it was referring to a specific treatment for the sake of argument.

 

Before doing so, I contested that premise by saying I "don't see any evidence of it". I also later said to Kestrel that it's "not at all clear" if he was referring to a specific argument. And I also said earlier in the thread that "What he [Trump] said was at best nonsensical."

 

If you don't like people projecting a specific treatment onto his remarks, why aren't you taking it up with the two posters that I was responding to instead of getting mad at me for addressing their arguments on their terms?

You appear to be operating from the assumption that Zurg and Kestrel don't realize that Trump never said to inject disinfectant and wasn't referring to a specific treatment. I don't believe that.

 

But that doesn't change that you KNOW that that isn't what he said yet you are engaging people as if that is what he said. You are the one who said he "referred to."

 

Why can't you be honest enough to discuss what he actually said and not the fantasy tangents?

 

Zurg and Kestrel are showing that even if he did say what the press is dishonestly portraying, which he DIDN't, there are medical treatments out there that fall in line with it.

 

Either way, you leftist Orange Man Bad foamers are out to lunch.

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So you don't believe hospitals, clinics, and doctors' offices have access to testing? Have you heard of Lab Corp and Quest and even CVS and Walgreens? Have you heard of drive-through testing sites? Why don't you look for their capacity projections and statements in every state? Why does Trump have to be able to rattle off exactly who's doing what out there? The capability and permits are being and have been ushered through, don't you think the next level of facilities need to actually do something? Or do they all need a personal okay from Trump to start running tests?

 

And when Trump's medical experts in his task force answer the questions, and Trump steps completely out of the way, why does Trump not get any credit? I thought all of you anti-Trump people wanted him to let the experts talk. Fauci has stated several times that Trump is not doing anything to muzzle him or the other medical experts. What more do you want?

 

It seems to me that when you ask your questions the way you do, you either don't understand the distributed nature of the overall operation, or you're not interested in anything other than seeing if Trump trips up somehow so you can bitch about it. That's why you sound like CNN.

 

Simple question for ANYONE in the administration: how many tests are we as a nation capable of making per day? They have been talking about testing since mid February. How has our capability increased since then?

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