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SARGE

That is some seriously fluent English right there.

 

OMG.

 

Oh, the irony, no, the abject stupidity of that post.

 

 

:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

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Taggart Transcontinental

How old do stoks of anthrax have to be?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gruinard_Island

After the tests were completed, scientists concluded that a large release of anthrax spores would thoroughly pollute German cities, rendering them uninhabitable for decades afterwards.[9] Those conclusions were supported by the inability to decontaminate the island after the experiment—the spores were sufficiently durable to resist any efforts at decontamination.

 

Seems that they couldn't decontaminate the island with a small bomb.

 

 

On 24 April 1990, after 48 years of quarantine and four years after the solution was applied, junior defence minister Michael Neubert visited the island and announced its safety by removing the warning signs.[9] On 1 May 1990, the island was repurchased by the heirs of the original owner for the original sale price of £500.[11]

 

Took them 48 years to get rid of this crap. So some Stoks are better than others.

 

 

 

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Taggart Transcontinental

When the President declared a national emergency and put Homeland Security/ FEMA in charge of coordinating the distribution of PPE, ventilators, and other critical resources.

 

The below is dated April 7th.

 

WASHINGTON – Closing the gap between what the private sector is able to provide to healthcare end-users and what is needed for the fight against COVID-19 is a key priority for the White House Coronavirus Task Force. In support of the task force, FEMA and the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services created a Supply Chain Stabilization Task Force, one of eight COVID-19 focused task forces under the National Response Coordination Center (NRCC). This task force is taking a whole-of-America approach to address limited supply of critical protective and life-saving equipment.

 

The task force's primary effort is the sourcing of personal protective equipment (PPE), ventilators and other critical resources to requested by states, tribes and territories.

 

By using the structure of FEMA's NRCC, the task force is finding and executing solutions to meet urgent demand and enable the U.S. Government to surge support to COVID-19 "hot spots" as they arise.

 

The strategy is executed through a four-pronged approach: Preservation, Acceleration, Allocation and Expansion to accelerate and expand the pipeline of medical supplies and equipment.

 

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Of course Magic Rat found a bottle at the hardware store........so that means the store shelves are stocked and everybody can buy all they need anytime they need it.

 

The President has had a two hour press briefing every night for four weeks. He has talked about all these supply chains......but I can't find anything about disinfectant (other than when he "sarcastically" asked about injecting it) and those supply chains.

 

No that's not at all true, we didn't become an authoritarian government, the Constitution still applies, the bill of rights still exist. A national emergency does not authorize dictator status. In order to do that you have to declare martial law. You then have to lock down the country with the military / law enforcement. Last time I checked that hasn't happened. So where is this fantasy world you live under?

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Taggart Transcontinental

That is some seriously fluent English right there.

 

Put that sentence through a grammer checker chuckle head, it's grammatically correct. It may be awkward, but it is correct. I am not required to write to the level that makes you feel comfortable.

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Taggart Transcontinental

OMG.

 

Oh, the irony, no, the abject stupidity of that post.

 

 

:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

 

Yeah he's correcting my english, and playing grammer Nazi. Though he's good to go on the Nazi part of it as a wanna be national socialist.

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Natural Selection

That is some seriously fluent English right there.

 

Anton's Mom? Is that you?

 

Please proofread your son's posts in the future. They're usually good for a chuckle, but they lower the average IQ of the site.

 

Thanks.

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Dutch13
I found a 3-pack can of Clorox Disinfecting Wipes at McLendon's Hardware.  There were several on an endcap.  I didn't have to specifically ask the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT or DONALD TRUMP for them.  That is the point which you dodged.

 

By the way, you can make these yourself with Clorox, paper towels and water, so you don't have to go the lazy way with the premade  ones.

 

Also, if these Dinsifectant Wipes are all you use to clean your house, you live in an unsanitary pigsty.

 

Nice strawman arguments.

 

While stores are reopening and keeping accurate counts of the numbers of people in their stores, cleaning all the surfaces in their business that are touched by customers, etc.......I am sure they will be glad to know that Magic Rat said they should just spend even more of their time mixing their own cleaning supplies because the government has purchased all the premade ones.

 

Or maybe the President could take 2 minutes out of his 120 minute nightly extravaganza and let the American folks know that "Hey, I know you can't consistently find any of these items on your shelves. These great American companies are hard at work making supplies for our front line staff. At my personal direction, they have done ______________________________________ to help insure that this vital product is being produced in greater number so we can kill this invisible enemy....this tiny tiny invisible enemy, that is what I call it you know, when Americans get back to work."

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No that's not at all true, we didn't become an authoritarian government, the Constitution still applies, the bill of rights still exist. A national emergency does not authorize dictator status. In order to do that you have to declare martial law. You then have to lock down the country with the military / law enforcement. Last time I checked that hasn't happened. So where is this fantasy world you live under?

 

Get over yourself......you asked those sarcastic questions. I ignored your sarcasm and answered about with what has really happened. Are you suggesting the Executive Branch didn't declare a national emergency? Are you suggesting that FEMA hasn't inserted itself into the distribution channel? Are you suggesting that supplies that might have been sold at the retail level have instead been re-routed at the Federal Government's direction?

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RedSoloCup

That is some seriously fluent English right there.

 

:biglaugh:

 

Still makes more sense than anything you have ever posted, Junior.

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RedSoloCup

Whats up with all these triggered responses on total off topic?

 

I'm not talking about who's fault Iraq was. It absolutely does not matter who "started it" to my point.

 

I don't know what part of that you don't understand. Not every thread is about everything.

 

You want to go talk about who's fault Iraq war was? Ok go make a thread and I'll see ya there.

 

P.S. Iraq was not sold on 10 year old stoks of anthrax.

 

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Timothy

"It appears that..." Do you understand what that phrase means?

Yes. Doesn't change the fact that it was a straw man argument.

 

That was, at a minimum, Zurg's point. He has confirmed it. So yes, you did miss that. Again, try to figure out what "It appears that..." means.

And it still doesn't back-up your argument. It still doesn't change the fact that I said multiple times that Trump's statement was ambiguous and unclear. If my position is what you say it is, I would not have made those statements.

 

Don't flatter yourself, Tim. You are not capable of generating anger or any other strong emotion in me. I actually find you amusing in your deliberate dishonesty when it comes to DJT.

Your tone and the fact that you came out the game swinging suggests otherwise. And it wouldn't be flattery, I'm not a troll who takes joy in people being angry. I make an effort, not always successfully, to keep things respectful and friendly. Honestly, my motivation is hope that you'll actually take it to heart somewhat and tone things down. I know that's overly optimistic and idealistic, especially for the internet. It is what it is.

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Nice strawman arguments.

 

While stores are reopening and keeping accurate counts of the numbers of people in their stores, cleaning all the surfaces in their business that are touched by customers, etc.......I am sure they will be glad to know that Magic Rat said they should just spend even more of their time mixing their own cleaning supplies because the government has purchased all the premade ones.

 

Or maybe the President could take 2 minutes out of his 120 minute nightly extravaganza and let the American folks know that "Hey, I know you can't consistently find any of these items on your shelves. These great American companies are hard at work making supplies for our front line staff. At my personal direction, they have done ______________________________________ to help insure that this vital product is being produced in greater number so we can kill this invisible enemy....this tiny tiny invisible enemy, that is what I call it you know, when Americans get back to work."

 

Strawman? I’m not the one claiming that the president is supposed to address why you are too dumb or lazy to find <censored>ing Simple Green! If I can find it without the government holding my hand, you can.This is the dumbest argument I have ever had with a so-called “conservative” since I joined this site.

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MontyPython

Nice strawman arguments.

 

While stores are reopening and keeping accurate counts of the numbers of people in their stores, cleaning all the surfaces in their business that are touched by customers, etc.......I am sure they will be glad to know that Magic Rat said they should just spend even more of their time mixing their own cleaning supplies because the government has purchased all the premade ones.

 

Or maybe the President could take 2 minutes out of his 120 minute nightly extravaganza and let the American folks know that "Hey, I know you can't consistently find any of these items on your shelves. These great American companies are hard at work making supplies for our front line staff. At my personal direction, they have done ______________________________________ to help insure that this vital product is being produced in greater number so we can kill this invisible enemy....this tiny tiny invisible enemy, that is what I call it you know, when Americans get back to work."

 

I don't know what city/county/state you live in, but if you really seriously still can't buy common cleaning/disinfectant/sanitizer anywhere, then you have my sincere sympathy. Maybe you should think about relocating.

 

Sure, I remember those awful first couple of weeks when things like drinking water & sanitizer & toilet paper were damn near impossible to find. The shelves were empty because all the "It's the end of the world" people figured they needed 500 rolls and 200 gallons or they were "Gonna die, fer sher!" But are you saying you still can't find those things in stores near your location, even today?

 

Wow, sure is different here. No shortages anymore.

 

:shrug:

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Dutch13
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But are you saying you still can't find those things in stores near your location, even today

 

I was at Target when they opened this morning.  They told me to get here within an hour after opening on Monday, Wednesday, or Friday (some Saturdays) when their delivery truck comes in.  Even then, they limit the quantity you can purchase.  Within a couple hours of it being put on the shelves, the shelves will be empty.

 

Don't get me wrong.  If I want to make things smell pretty, those types of cleaning supplies are readily available.......but if I want to sanitize and make sure any virus or bacteria is killed, those are not available in the needed quantities.  Sure, Magic Rat can walk in the store and purchase some Simple Green whenever he wants....but that isn't a disinfectant.

 

Wal Mart, Kroger, Big Lots, etc, etc all have the same situations.  That is with "non-essential" business in the state being closed.  What happens when all those business open back up and they have to clean their stores?  

 

If it were so plentiful, it wouldn't be an issue.  

 

Maybe this is all hype and we don't really need to clean as much as we have been told.  Why is the government redirecting all these assets away from retail stores?

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SARGE

 

 

Wow, sure is different here. No shortages anymore.

 

:shrug:

 

Same here.

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Strawman?  I'm not the one claiming that the president is supposed to address why you are too dumb or lazy to find Simple Green!  If I can find it without the government holding my hand, you can.  This is the dumbest argument I have ever had with a so-called "conservative" since I joined this site.

 

Why don't you save your money by pissing in a bucket and "disinfecting" with that?  It will get rid of coronavirus just as well as Simple Green.......which is why you have such an easy time finding it. Hopefully, nobody else is trusting their health to you.

 

But hey, no big deal. You keep disinfecting with that non-disinfectant.

 

From their website:

 

Q: Can Simple Green All-Purpose Cleaner be used against Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)?

 

Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) is the disease caused by the virus SARS-CoV-2.

 

Simple Green All-Purpose Cleaner is not a disinfectant and will not kill bacteria or viruses. Simple Green All-Purpose Cleaner can not treat a disease. Simple Green All-Purpose Cleaner can be used to clean a surface before applying a disinfecting solution.

 

Q: Do any of your products contain Ethanol? Ethyl Alcohol? Isopropanol? Hydrogen Peroxide? Bleach? Sodium Hypochlorite?

 

No. Our products either do not contain these ingredients or do not contain them in a useful enough quantity to be used against SARS-CoV-2. Our products that might have these ingredients have not been tested or approved for use against SARS-CoV-2. For ingredient information visit https://simplegreen.com/ingredient-disclosure/

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Magic Rat
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Why don't you save your money by pissing in a bucket and "disinfecting" with that? It will get rid of coronavirus just as well as Simple Green.......which is why you have such an easy time finding it. Hopefully, nobody else is trusting their health to you.

 

But hey, no big deal. You keep disinfecting with that non-disinfectant.

 

https://simplegreen.com/news-and-media/coronavirus-faq/

Like I said days ago, I use Lysol Lemon Scented Clean and Fresh to disinfect my bathrooms and kitchen and have had no problem finding it without help from the government either. But if that is your response, I think it's safe to say we are done with this ridiculous conversation.

 

Simple Green is great for the wheels on my car and pick up though.

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Magic Rat

I was at Target when they opened this morning. They told me to get here within an hour after opening on Monday, Wednesday, or Friday (some Saturdays) when their delivery truck comes in. Even then, they limit the quantity you can purchase. Within a couple hours of it being put on the shelves, the shelves will be empty.

 

Wal Mart, Kroger, Big Lots, etc, etc all have the same situations. That is with "non-essential" business in the state being opened. What happens when all those business open back up and they have to clean their stores?

 

If it were so plentiful, it wouldn't be an issue.

 

Maybe this is all hype and we don't really need to clean as much as we have been told. Why is the government redirecting all these assets away from retail stores?

 

Didn't you clean your house before this hysteria? Disgusting.

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Dutch13
Didn't you clean  your house before this hysteria?  Disgusting.

 

Other than to argue with me, why did you even bother? You made a disparaging comment about me because you have no trouble finding Simple Green.......and I point out that you are the dipsh# that didn't even realize that it wasn't a disinfectant.

 

You have no answer to my question about what businesses will do when they can't get these supplies so you make another straw man argument about the cleanliness of my house? This has never been about "my house" and you know that. From the very first, it was about how businesses are supposed to clean when the government is redirecting all of these supplies away from the retail (or wholesalers) market.

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Like I said days ago, I use Lysol Lemon Scented Clean and Fresh to disinfect my bathrooms and kitchen and have had no problem finding it without help from the government either.  But if that is your response, I think it's safe to say we are done with this ridiculous conversation.

 

Simple Green is great for the wheels on my car and pick up though.

 

Don't be a dick.  

 

Isn't that what you said to me multiple times a few pages back.  

 

Take your own advice.  

 

"I'm not the one claiming that the president is supposed to address why you are too dumb or lazy to find &lt;censored&gt;ing Simple Green! If I can find it without the government holding my hand, you can.This is the dumbest argument I have ever had with a so-called "conservative" since I joined this site."

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Magic Rat

Other than to argue with me, why did you even bother? You made a disparaging comment about me because you have no trouble finding Simple Green.......and I point out that you are the dipsh# that didn't even realize that it wasn't a disinfectant.

 

You have no answer to my question about what businesses will do when they can't get these supplies so you make another straw man argument about the cleanliness of my house? This has never been about "my house" and you know that. From the very first, it was about how businesses are supposed to clean when the government is redirecting all of these supplies away from the retail (or wholesalers) market.

 

Since you are the only person who can't find disinfectant and demands the Federal government provide it for you, I came to the conclusion yesterday that this is a waste of time. If I can find disinfectant; everything from Lysol, to bleach to 30 Seconds Cleaner for my patio, so can "businesses". (Yesterday, McLendon's, my little hardware store who has much less buying power than Kroger, Safeway, Walgreen's or Rite-Aid had a full pallet of bleach in the front of the store.) If I remember correctly, you live in West Virginia. IF this is so, then I live in a much larger population center than you do and can still find cleaning products without President Trump delivering them to my front door. I am convinced that if you wanted to, you could too. Therefore, I think you are arguing just to argue and this is solely personal for you so I was having fun with your bull<censored>. Like I said, two days ago, your question is ridiculous since there are products available and it is strictly a private concern.

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Magic Rat

Don't be a dick.  

 

Isn't that what you said to me multiple times a few pages back.  

 

Take your own advice.  

 

"I'm not the one claiming that the president is supposed to address why you are too dumb or lazy to find &lt;censored&gt;ing Simple Green! If I can find it without the government holding my hand, you can.This is the dumbest argument I have ever had with a so-called "conservative" since I joined this site."

What is with your PC?

 

Anyway, see my last response.

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Taggart Transcontinental

Get over yourself......you asked those sarcastic questions. I ignored your sarcasm and answered about with what has really happened. Are you suggesting the Executive Branch didn't declare a national emergency? Are you suggesting that FEMA hasn't inserted itself into the distribution channel? Are you suggesting that supplies that might have been sold at the retail level have instead been re-routed at the Federal Government's direction?

 

Get over myself? Self congratulate much? The POTUS declared a emergency and invoked portions of the law. He did not suspend the Constitution, and stop rights. Know how I know? I still have to read miranda to people I arrest. I still need a search warrant to enter a home without permission. I still have to have probable cause to arrest. Those are all guarantees enshrined in our Constitution and LAW. Therefore they are not suspended and as I stated they are not legally stopped by some dictator governor with his eyes on power.

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Taggart Transcontinental

I don't know what city/county/state you live in, but if you really seriously still can't buy common cleaning/disinfectant/sanitizer anywhere, then you have my sincere sympathy. Maybe you should think about relocating.

 

Sure, I remember those awful first couple of weeks when things like drinking water & sanitizer & toilet paper were damn near impossible to find. The shelves were empty because all the "It's the end of the world" people figured they needed 500 rolls and 200 gallons or they were "Gonna die, fer sher!" But are you saying you still can't find those things in stores near your location, even today?

 

Wow, sure is different here. No shortages anymore.

 

:shrug:

 

Or find it on Amazon.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Vita-Moisturizing-Hand-Disinfectant-Unscented/dp/B085LSQZK8/ref=sr_1_29?crid=S5T1EMG0KW41&dchild=1&keywords=hand+sanitizer&qid=1588267065&sprefix=hand%2Caps%2C169&sr=8-29

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Sweetlong-Sanitizer-Long-Lasting-Disposable-Portable/dp/B086JPXFLM/ref=sr_1_32?crid=S5T1EMG0KW41&dchild=1&keywords=hand+sanitizer&qid=1588267065&sprefix=hand%2Caps%2C169&sr=8-32

 

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Dutch13
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<br />Or find it on Amazon.

 

I don't recall asking about hand sanitizer.  I said cleaning disinfectant.  You know, the things that people use to clean large surfaces.  The things that a business will need to open its doors back up to the public.

 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HSC9F2C/ref=twister_B0835RYRB9?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

 

https://www.amazon.com/Clorox-Disinfecting-Wipes-Bleach-Cleaning/dp/B00P2ZJ6DU/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=lysol+wipes&qid=1588269580&s=hpc&sr=1-2

 

https://business.officedepot.com/catalog/search.do?Ntt=Lysol+Spray

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