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Dutch13
1 minute ago, Taggart Transcontinental said:

Really Dude, is there anything that Trump can do right other than leave office with you?

Your TDS is out of control. 30 minutes with a large crowd, they didn't intend to disperse. Thus it is the right of local / state or Federal Law Enforcement to stop illegal protests (they didn't have a permit, nor are they allowed to block streets).

That is the point.  THEY DIDN'T STOP IT.  They just pushed it back to create the corridor for him to get to the photo op.  Even after the 7:00 curfew, how many arrests did they make for violating the curfew?  

By the way, at 6:30 PM, how was it an illegal protest? 

If it was illegal at 6:30 PM, why did they just decide to become "LAW AND ORDER" then?  Why weren't they enforcing law and order earlier in the day?

 

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12 minutes ago, Dutch13 said:

That is the point.  THEY DIDN'T STOP IT.  They just pushed it back to create the corridor for him to get to the photo op.  Even after the 7:00 curfew, how many arrests did they make for violating the curfew?  

By the way, at 6:30 PM, how was it an illegal protest? 

If it was illegal at 6:30 PM, why did they just decide to become "LAW AND ORDER" then?  Why weren't they enforcing law and order earlier in the day?

 

I listed the ways it was illegal.

1. NO PERMIT... Still need one in our country to have a gathering.

2. Violated the safe space rules in the area. Washington DC is still a shelter in your hovel / hood location

3. Not following social distancing rules

4. Blocking the legal flow of traffic.

ALL good? You can't block roads while protesting, you gotta have a permit and those idiot socialist rules. Just to name a few.

But yah keep up the outrage it's good for the heart.

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Lisa
4 hours ago, Natural Selection said:

What the article fails to mention is that these "peaceful protesters" were only a few minutes away from violating the 7pm curfew and were making no effort to leave.

They were more than a few minutes away. And since that has nothing to do with the real reason the protesters were rushed and gassed, it would add nothing to the article's subject and possibly further prove this was not necessary. Protesters were removed so Trump and his team could stand in front of the church for a few minutes and take pictures. The reason for this show was because of the negative press regarding him being forced into his bunker the day prior. He wanted to make a visual statement. 

 

4 hours ago, Holland25 said:

Once the inevitable violence and looting started they loss the right to be called protestors. Lets stick with criminals and domestic terrorist.

 

7 hours ago, Squirrel said:

Was this before or after the peaceful protesters defaced and damaged monuments at the national mall? By the way why isn’t that on every news channel?  The idiots defaced even the linclon memorial. Tell me again how this has anything to do with peaceful protests. At this point the left has lost any right to claim peaceful protests. Tear gas them all I give a damn. Give them one empty parking garage they can stand in to protest,  they wander out gas them. This peaceful narrative is proven bull <censored> nightly

 

3 hours ago, BootsieBets said:

At this point, the protesters are just providing cover for the rioters/insurgents.  And the insurgents are being funded, trained and brought to the cities by high powered people who want to bring down this nation.  They don’t care about George Floyd.  Any “protester” who is still on the streets after curfew is not honoring Floyd or his memory.  They are only helping the people who want to destroy America.  If that is the case, then there should be no sympathy for them and they should be treated like the rest of the rioters.

 

53 minutes ago, Taggart Transcontinental said:

Exactly right, if they were going to sit there until 7PM then what is the difference. civil disobedience is just that. So move them.

 

37 minutes ago, zurg said:

It’s nice how you don’t even care to think what the protesters did the night before and who the main agitators among the protesters obviously are. Facts don’t matter to you anymore Dutch. 

 

The protesters, last night, were peaceful. These particular people did nothing to warrant this. They were merely standing there holding signs. Police did not attempt to get them to move along prior to the rushing in order to clear the way for the procession to the church. So it's pretty evident this was a plan to make a statement. Those statements should be reserved for the violent protesters and looters, no? Why was this not done when things were being defaced? Do we no longer have the right to peacefully protest in this country? Next time conservatives protest they should be treated like this? Should that have happened to them during the lockdown protests? Many of those people were showing up armed along with their signs. Should we dig up those threads to find all the posts supporting that?

I think from now on when a few on this site attack/abuse others we should punish all their friends. They hold the same opinions and posted in the same threads, although, refrained from becoming abusive - but so what?  The mods need to make a statement. They'll take screen captures we can post just so everyone is clear they're not afraid.

 

3 hours ago, gregvega said:

I saw the video live on t.v.  If they ere using tear gas why didn't the cops have gas masks on. How were the cops and crowed  able to slowly  walk through the clouds of smoke?

 

 

Based on an incredible amount of previous reactions to every single thing in the news about him, if it were not tear gas, I'm pretty positive we would have had multiple 3am tweets telling us it is fake news.

 

You know guys, if you don't stop making excuses for and cheering on some of the dumb things he says and does, he's only going to get worse. He's proven that. And because he requires more than his base, this will cost him the election  - and we need him for an economic recovery. This was a dumb move. He's been receiving some very poor guidance.

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The few times I have visited DC, there were always protestors carrying signs for one thing or another outside the white House.  

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Oathtaker
38 minutes ago, Lisa said:

They were more than a few minutes away. And since that has nothing to do with the real reason the protesters were rushed and gassed, it would add nothing to the article's subject and possibly further prove this was not necessary. Protesters were removed so Trump and his team could stand in front of the church for a few minutes and take pictures. The reason for this show was because of the negative press regarding him being forced into his bunker the day prior. He wanted to make a visual statement. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The protesters, last night, were peaceful. These particular people did nothing to warrant this. They were merely standing there holding signs. Police did not attempt to get them to move along prior to the rushing in order to clear the way for the procession to the church. So it's pretty evident this was a plan to make a statement. Those statements should be reserved for the violent protesters and looters, no? Why was this not done when things were being defaced? Do we no longer have the right to peacefully protest in this country? Next time conservatives protest they should be treated like this? Should that have happened to them during the lockdown protests? Many of those people were showing up armed along with their signs. Should we dig up those threads to find all the posts supporting that?

I think from now on when a few on this site attack/abuse others we should punish all their friends. They hold the same opinions and posted in the same threads, although, refrained from becoming abusive - but so what?  The mods need to make a statement. They'll take screen captures we can post just so everyone is clear they're not afraid.

 

 

Based on an incredible amount of previous reactions to every single thing in the news about him, if it were not tear gas, I'm pretty positive we would have had multiple 3am tweets telling us it is fake news.

 

You know guys, if you don't stop making excuses for and cheering on some of the dumb things he says and does, he's only going to get worse. He's proven that. And because he requires more than his base, this will cost him the election  - and we need him for an economic recovery. This was a dumb move. He's been receiving some very poor guidance.

Last night WTOP was saying that the Park Police used smoke canisters, not CS Gas to partially disburse the crowd when they started chucking things like half full water bottles. 

The Park Police denied the use of CS absolutely. Gonna have to go with the police on this one. I don’t believe the protesters or the misledia on this one. 

Trump did what he did and it’s over. I don’t give a hoot one way or the other that he did it or how anyone “feels” about it. Don’t own a Red Hat or have a bumper sticker just want to live my life in peace. 

As far as I’m concerned, all of the protesters lost credibility when a few started destroying public property. They were there when it went down, they saw who was doing it, and they did nothing. They had phones and could’ve taken pictures or “live-streamed” the perps. 
 

If you demand responsibility from others you got to front it yourself, otherwise it’s a tad hypocritical. N’est pas?

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Coach

No question this is one time the Trump team came off  as clumsy and ham handed. That tells me it was not staged but came out of sincere regret and the need for Divine intercession. What is without charity or forgiveness is the absolute refusal to grant the man an ounce of the benefit of the doubt. People who expressed no ire for the church being torched the night before went into spasms of rage that the president dared visit the "Church of Presidents".

It is rather rich that politicians who have spent their careers using AME pulpits to curry favor now pile on heap condemnation on anyone who dares to beseech guidance from the Lord. 

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zurg

Lisa - I’m not going to quote your ridiculous rant, but I’ll just state that I disagree. 
 

The demonstrators have shown us that they absolutely have the capacity to turn violent on a moment’s notice. I don’t fault Trump for making a point that they are out of line and aren’t allowed to physically threaten the president and force him to be confined. 
 

I’m disappointed at the number, you included, who fall for yet another left media reporting without giving as much as a chance for the other side to state their case. Once again, Trump is judged the ahole. Okay, if you do hate the version of America that Trump is driving to, get off the bus and vote for the other guy. 
 

What’s stopping you? Do you require perfection in a person before he or she is acceptable to you? 

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firecoco
5 hours ago, Dutch13 said:

They were 30 minutes away and no arrests were made of these protestors when they did violate the curfew. 

To anybody suggesting that it was not a photo op, you are a tool.  

What happened?  They cleared a corridor for Trump to walk.  Trump walked there.  They took pictures of him walking to the church.  What happened next? 

THEY TOOK PICTURES standing in front of the church.  What happened next?  He walked back to the White House. 

The only tool here is you....You've been a tool for 4 years now

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gregvega
4 hours ago, Lisa said:

 

Based on an incredible amount of previous reactions to every single thing in the news about him, if it were not tear gas, I'm pretty positive we would have had multiple 3am tweets telling us it is fake news.

 

 

So you believe that's tear gas used in the video?

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4 hours ago, Lisa said:

They were more than a few minutes away. And since that has nothing to do with the real reason the protesters were rushed and gassed, it would add nothing to the article's subject and possibly further prove this was not necessary. Protesters were removed so Trump and his team could stand in front of the church for a few minutes and take pictures. The reason for this show was because of the negative press regarding him being forced into his bunker the day prior. He wanted to make a visual statement. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The protesters, last night, were peaceful. These particular people did nothing to warrant this. They were merely standing there holding signs. Police did not attempt to get them to move along prior to the rushing in order to clear the way for the procession to the church. So it's pretty evident this was a plan to make a statement. Those statements should be reserved for the violent protesters and looters, no? Why was this not done when things were being defaced? Do we no longer have the right to peacefully protest in this country? Next time conservatives protest they should be treated like this? Should that have happened to them during the lockdown protests? Many of those people were showing up armed along with their signs. Should we dig up those threads to find all the posts supporting that?

I think from now on when a few on this site attack/abuse others we should punish all their friends. They hold the same opinions and posted in the same threads, although, refrained from becoming abusive - but so what?  The mods need to make a statement. They'll take screen captures we can post just so everyone is clear they're not afraid.

 

 

Based on an incredible amount of previous reactions to every single thing in the news about him, if it were not tear gas, I'm pretty positive we would have had multiple 3am tweets telling us it is fake news.

 

You know guys, if you don't stop making excuses for and cheering on some of the dumb things he says and does, he's only going to get worse. He's proven that. And because he requires more than his base, this will cost him the election  - and we need him for an economic recovery. This was a dumb move. He's been receiving some very poor guidance.

"The protesters, last night, were peaceful. These particular people did nothing to warrant this. They were merely standing there holding signs."

I thought they started throwing "half full bottles of water" 1 gal weighs 8pounds don't know how much a "half bottle weighs" but bet it would hurt...just checked its approximately 16 -33 oz's so at min it weighs 1 pound...so average person throws at 40-60 miles/hr I bet that would hurt just a little.

Kestrel...

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Natural Selection
6 hours ago, Lisa said:

They were more than a few minutes away. And since that has nothing to do with the real reason the protesters were rushed and gassed, it would add nothing to the article's subject and possibly further prove this was not necessary. Protesters were removed so Trump and his team could stand in front of the church for a few minutes and take pictures. The reason for this show was because of the negative press regarding him being forced into his bunker the day prior. He wanted to make a visual statement.

"People who gathered outside the White House to protest police brutality spent Monday waving signs and screaming for justice. They watched as police officers and National Guard units flooded Lafayette Square, delivering on a threat made by President Trump. And just before the city’s 7 p.m. curfew went into effect, they were hit with flash-bang explosions and doused with tear gas."

 

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Media Falsely Claimed Violent Riots Were Peaceful And That Tear Gas Was Used Against Rioters

By Mollie Hemingway

JUNE 2, 2020

The Federalist

 

Every single major media outlet falsely reported that Park Police were unprovoked when they used “tear gas” to clear the area. If any of that were true, it might mark the first time in history that cops without gas masks launched tear gas in an area that the president of the United States easily walked through minutes later.

After thousands of false tweets, print stories, and broadcast stories to the contrary, local journalist Neal Augenstein of WTOP reported that a Park Police source said “tear gas was never used — instead smoke canisters were deployed, which don’t have an uncomfortable irritant in them.” Further, the source said the crowd was dispersed because of projectiles being thrown by the “peaceful protesters” at the Park Police and because “peaceful protesters” had climbed on top of a structure in Lafayette Park that had been burned the prior night.

Sgt. Eduardo Delgado, the public information officer for the Park Police, confirmed the agency did not use tear gas. And later this afternoon, United States Park Police acting Chief Gregory T. Monahan exploded the entire false narrative:

On Monday, June 1, the USPP worked with the United States Secret Service to have temporary fencing installed inside Lafayette Park. At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids. The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.

To curtail the violence that was underway, the USPP, following established policy, issued three warnings over a loudspeaker to alert demonstrators on H Street to evacuate the area. Horse mounted patrol, Civil Disturbance Units and additional personnel were used to clear the area. As many of the protestors became more combative, continued to throw projectiles, and attempted to grab officers’ weapons, officers then employed the use of smoke canisters and pepper balls. No tear gas was used by USPP officers or other assisting law enforcement partners to close the area at Lafayette Park. Subsequently, the fence was installed.

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zurg

How interesting! 
 

Media lied, once again. When are people going to learn not to fall for their lies? 

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zipndun
20 minutes ago, zurg said:

How interesting! 
 

Media lied, once again. When are people going to learn not to fall for their lies? 

Not sure, are you still wearing a mask and begging for lock-downs?

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10 hours ago, Taggart Transcontinental said:

Really Dude, is there anything that Trump can do right other than leave office with you?

Your TDS is out of control. 30 minutes with a large crowd, they didn't intend to disperse. Thus it is the right of local / state or Federal Law Enforcement to stop illegal protests (they didn't have a permit, nor are they allowed to block streets).

Gotta say that I am with Dutch on this one.  

Not saying that the protesters/rioters had a right to be there.

Not saying that the protesters/rioters shouldn't have dispersed when ordered to.

Not saying that the protesters/rioters shouldn't have been forced to leave or arrested if/when they violated curfew.

I don't agree with Dutch that Trump did this because he was looking inept.  Reactions to Trump soundly condemning the death and rapidly assigning federal resources to investigate potential civil rights violations are pathetic and show that people are simply blind IRT DJT.  

However, Trump using police to force a path to a place he didn't need to go for a photo op that he didn't need and that, frankly, looked staged and disingenuous, was stupid.  Dumb idea.  Bad idea.  It being used against him because of the horrible optics was predictable and the walk should have been scrapped.  

ETA:  And with Lisa.  You don't have to cheer for or agree with everything he says and does to support him as President.  This was a stupid move done at a stupid time for a photo that didn't need to be taken.

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31 minutes ago, JerryL said:

Gotta say that I am with Dutch on this one.  

Not saying that the protesters/rioters had a right to be there.

Not saying that the protesters/rioters shouldn't have dispersed when ordered to.

Not saying that the protesters/rioters shouldn't have been forced to leave or arrested if/when they violated curfew.

I don't agree with Dutch that Trump did this because he was looking inept.  Reactions to Trump soundly condemning the death and rapidly assigning federal resources to investigate potential civil rights violations are pathetic and show that people are simply blind IRT DJT.  

However, Trump using police to force a path to a place he didn't need to go for a photo op that he didn't need and that, frankly, looked staged and disingenuous, was stupid.  Dumb idea.  Bad idea.  It being used against him because of the horrible optics was predictable and the walk should have been scrapped.  

ETA:  And with Lisa.  You don't have to cheer for or agree with everything he says and does to support him as President.  This was a stupid move done at a stupid time for a photo that didn't need to be taken.

You can be wherever you want to be. That's your choice. On the other hand its time someone reigned in the madness. Good point brought up today. The protesters here got their permits to protest on the sidewalk, not in the streets. Why weren't people wanting to protest the Wuhan flu given the right to protest? Suddenly social distancing is no longer required? Suddenly there is no need to limit groups? Suddenly there is a need to allow masses of people to mingle? Yeah pass. This has but one goal and that is to remove Trump from the Presidency. If you can't see that, you can continue to pretend otherwise. This was not a dumb move, it was what is needed. DC is quiet tonight, what about the other places?

It's time to take back our cities from these communist crazies. This is nothing more than a DNC pep rally.

By the way, it wasn't tear gas. The police would have worn masks if it had been tear gas. They also deploy smoke as well. Which can look like tear gas but is not. They probably deployed smoke to lower the visibility of any possible snipers. That's a good method to restrict line of sight.

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zurg
1 hour ago, zipndun said:

Not sure, are you still wearing a mask and begging for lock-downs?

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8 hours ago, Oathtaker said:

Last night WTOP was saying that the Park Police used smoke canisters, not CS Gas to partially disburse the crowd when they started chucking things like half full water bottles. 

The Park Police denied the use of CS absolutely. Gonna have to go with the police on this one. I don’t believe the protesters or the misledia on this one. 

Trump did what he did and it’s over. I don’t give a hoot one way or the other that he did it or how anyone “feels” about it. Don’t own a Red Hat or have a bumper sticker just want to live my life in peace. 

As far as I’m concerned, all of the protesters lost credibility when a few started destroying public property. They were there when it went down, they saw who was doing it, and they did nothing. They had phones and could’ve taken pictures or “live-streamed” the perps. 
 

If you demand responsibility from others you got to front it yourself, otherwise it’s a tad hypocritical. N’est pas?

Exactly right, on top of that what are they protesting? No justice for X? Sorry the cop was arrested, others being investigated, and a federal civil rights investigation is under way. No justice? Bull crap, they got their justice. EXCEPT, the failed police leadership in that city is STILL in charge. Their policy allowed that excessive use of force. Their leadership trained and protected those incompetent officers. Their policies and leadership have kept the black community in the lower end of the economy for 60 years. So yes the cop was arrested properly, however the entire DEMOCRAT PARTY that RAN THAT CITY INTO THE GROUND is still IN POWER. Yet the moron's that protest will vote overwhelmingly to keep them in power. All the while bitching about a President that does not hold supreme executive authority to do a damn thing about this crap in the cities run by Democrats. So meh.

Keep taking a knee, keep burning your crap down, and keep hurting each other. All in the name of a new pair of NIKE's at least you can sport those shoes until you are gunned down by another young black male.

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33 minutes ago, JerryL said:

However, Trump using police to force a path to a place he didn't need to go for a photo op that he didn't need and that, frankly, looked staged and disingenuous, was stupid.  Dumb idea.  Bad idea.  It being used against him because of the horrible optics was predictable and the walk should have been scrapped.  

ETA:  And with Lisa.  You don't have to cheer for or agree with everything he says and does to support him as President.  This was a stupid move done at a stupid time for a photo that didn't need to be taken.

I disagree with you. 
 

The media has forged a narrative that tied together this walk to people getting ready to attack police. False narrative. 
 

None of you who’s getting on Trump’s case here is acknowledging that maybe things aren’t exactly honestly presented. 
 

I would expect a little more skepticism from people who’ve seen the way Trump gets treated every day. 

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30 minutes ago, Taggart Transcontinental said:

You can be wherever you want to be. That's your choice. On the other hand its time someone reigned in the madness. Good point brought up today. The protesters here got their permits to protest on the sidewalk, not in the streets. Why weren't people wanting to protest the Wuhan flu given the right to protest? Suddenly social distancing is no longer required? Suddenly there is no need to limit groups? Suddenly there is a need to allow masses of people to mingle? Yeah pass. This has but one goal and that is to remove Trump from the Presidency. If you can't see that, you can continue to pretend otherwise. This was not a dumb move, it was what is needed. DC is quiet tonight, what about the other places?

It's time to take back our cities from these communist crazies. This is nothing more than a DNC pep rally.

By the way, it wasn't tear gas. The police would have worn masks if it had been tear gas. They also deploy smoke as well. Which can look like tear gas but is not. They probably deployed smoke to lower the visibility of any possible snipers. That's a good method to restrict line of sight.

Thanks!  I will be.

Just out of curiosity, how did the President's push through for a photo op accomplish or contribute to the accomplishment of anything you say needs to be "reigned in?"  What did DJT accomplish by waving a Bible in front of the Episcopal Church?  It is not like he is some bastion of Christian faith who always has one with him.  That looked faked and false, to me.

So, how did it advance anything?   

 

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38 minutes ago, zurg said:

I disagree with you. 
 

The media has forged a narrative that tied together this walk to people getting ready to attack police. False narrative. 
 

None of you who’s getting on Trump’s case here is acknowledging that maybe things aren’t exactly honestly presented. 
 

I would expect a little more skepticism from people who’ve seen the way Trump gets treated every day. 

I think you are wrong, so we are even.  Not the first time and won't be the last.  The beauty of non-lockstep conservatism on display.  :thumbsup:

The result and backlash were entirely predictable.  Whether you agree with the protesters being there, or not, they were there.  To get where he wanted to go, they had to force a path so that DJT could get to the church.  And for what?  A photo?

Skepticism on what?  Are you saying the police didn't force a path so he could get through?  Sure, the leftist media has blown it way out of proportion but, but he still used the police to force a path for a photo op.  

 

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9 hours ago, zurg said:

Lisa - I’m not going to quote your ridiculous rant, but I’ll just state that I disagree. 
 

The demonstrators have shown us that they absolutely have the capacity to turn violent on a moment’s notice. I don’t fault Trump for making a point that they are out of line and aren’t allowed to physically threaten the president and force him to be confined. 
 

I’m disappointed at the number, you included, who fall for yet another left media reporting without giving as much as a chance for the other side to state their case. Once again, Trump is judged the ahole. Okay, if you do hate the version of America that Trump is driving to, get off the bus and vote for the other guy. 
 

What’s stopping you? Do you require perfection in a person before he or she is acceptable to you? 

Truly, I wasn't ranting at all, but I can oblige if you'd like. :)

My opposing opinion has just as much worth as yours on this planet and is not ridiculous just because you don't agree. I AM DISAPPOINTED. I fell for nothing. I used my own eyes and saw what transpired and didn't need some blogger somewhere to tell me what "really" happened or what Trump "really" meant by the actions taken. And YES, once again, he's judged the ahole because he acted like one. His version of America - you mean the one where peaceful protesters are, without warrant or warning, rushed, gassed (or smoke bombed) so he could grab a quick photo op holding up a book he's clearly never opened? Damn right I hate that version! You should too! If Obama had pulled that stunt you'd have been all over it! 

Biden is a moron. And as I've stated, we need Trump for an economic recovery. This is where he excels. This is primarily why I voted for him.  BUT, I'm not blind to how inept and wrong he is in so many other areas. I'm not going to cheer him on when he pulls stupid stunts mainly to stroke his own ego. This man needs large doses of honesty to become a better man and what we need, not more ass kissing.

Perfection? No, of course not. The POTUS showing even a tiny bit of foresight, reserve, dignity and class. Absolutely!  I expect nothing less from anyone holding that office - and neither should you. This isn't a game show. His antics are tiresome and unacceptable. He needs to know this so he can serve another term. We don't really want to be sitting around hearing "too close to call" that night, do we? How pathetic would that be given the other candidate is in stage 4 dementia? 

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6 hours ago, JerryL said:

Thanks!  I will be.

Just out of curiosity, how did the President's push through for a photo op accomplish or contribute to the accomplishment of anything you say needs to be "reigned in?"  What did DJT accomplish by waving a Bible in front of the Episcopal Church?  It is not like he is some bastion of Christian faith who always has one with him.  That looked faked and false, to me.

So, how did it advance anything?   

 

Well lets see, once again we saw a simple act turned into one in which the media demonstrated their bias and support of the DNC narrative. A narrative that you and every other person on here bitching fell for. When are you going to stop falling for these BS narratives? When are you going to realize that these people sitting at the White House are 70% useful idiot 30% violent provocateurs? They had weapons cache's pre-positioned. What do you think that means? There were FROZEN bottles of water and other fluids that were thrown into police lines. What? You didn't hear that from the media? There were bricks thrown at police, oh wait didn't hear that from the media!?!? Yeah guess what, you are gullible. I dare you to stand on the line of one of these protests and tell me how peaceful they are. For ever 1 person standing there peacefully out in front there are 3 with weapons behind him. Red teams hide 2-3 rows back from the regular protesters (green team) and throw their weapons at the police. That's their TTP, it allows them to blend into the crowd and escape arrest. When they are caught, that's when the yellow teams work to break up the arrest and resist the police by glomming on the and holding them from arresting the red team members. 

https://www.unitedpatriotsofamerica.com/antifa/antifa-and-the-black-bloc-explained.html

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The Red is Black Block The above are some of the organizations that you need to look for. Black Block is the part of Antifa that is willing to commit haynous acts. Antifa green works with the black by putting up s line of protestors. The black will bust through the line or reach over it spay mace or censored you up in some other way and then disappear into the sea of yellow Antifa ( yellow have no particular trading and are usually new bees who’s job it is to conceal the black by swarming), they move around beeping their horns and create confusion and disorientation. They actually go to classes and practice these tactics. The training is funded by a multi billionare called George Soros who admitted he would do anything to bring America down to socialism.

So when you see cops being swarmed by people during an arrest, that's what you are seeing. Trained operatives that are defending a black block member to ensure they get away. They are the 20 something little dirtbags willing to do harm to people, so they have to get away, there are only so many of these true believers out there. It is their version of "never leave a man behind". It's most effective when the PD does not recognize the actions, to capture the black block scumbags you need to respond in force as well, nail the clown, pin him and then encircle him to defend against the yellow.

That's what we are up against and you would rather criticize a POTUS that is attempting to enforce law and stop this.

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5 hours ago, Lisa said:

Truly, I wasn't ranting at all, but I can oblige if you'd like. :)

My opposing opinion has just as much worth as yours on this planet and is not ridiculous just because you don't agree. I AM DISAPPOINTED. I fell for nothing. I used my own eyes and saw what transpired and didn't need some blogger somewhere to tell me what "really" happened or what Trump "really" meant by the actions taken. And YES, once again, he's judged the ahole because he acted like one. His version of America - you mean the one where peaceful protesters are, without warrant or warning, rushed, gassed (or smoke bombed) so he could grab a quick photo op holding up a book he's clearly never opened? Damn right I hate that version! You should too! If Obama had pulled that stunt you'd have been all over it! 

Biden is a moron. And as I've stated, we need Trump for an economic recovery. This is where he excels. This is primarily why I voted for him.  BUT, I'm not blind to how inept and wrong he is in so many other areas. I'm not going to cheer him on when he pulls stupid stunts mainly to stroke his own ego. This man needs large doses of honesty to become a better man and what we need, not more ass kissing.

Perfection? No, of course not. The POTUS showing even a tiny bit of foresight, reserve, dignity and class. Absolutely!  I expect nothing less from anyone holding that office - and neither should you. This isn't a game show. His antics are tiresome and unacceptable. He needs to know this so he can serve another term. We don't really want to be sitting around hearing "too close to call" that night, do we? How pathetic would that be given the other candidate is in stage 4 dementia? 

DITTOS

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