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Rock N' Roll Right Winger
9 hours ago, RedSoloCup said:

:crybaby2:

 

Let that butthurt flow,  Johnny. 

 

Him and Colon Powell ought to get a room.

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Rock N' Roll Right Winger
3 hours ago, AntonToo said:

...because you like crooks?

You're hardly one to talk? :lol:

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Ticked@TinselTown
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Thirty-six Senate Democrats signed a letter to Mr. Bush urging him not to make a recess appointment of Mr. Bolton at the U.N., saying “he was not truthful” on a Senate questionnaire. Among those signing the letter were Mr. Biden, Mr. Obama, Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Durbin and Mr. Schumer, now the Senate minority leader from New York.

Well, if there's a more experienced bunch who can identify liars, I don't know where to find them...

 

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Rock N' Roll Right Winger
3 hours ago, AntonToo said:

All these REPUBLICANS who work directly with Trump are telling you the guy is crooked, doesn't know where his personal interests end and bussiness of the people begins....and your response is GOOD, I LIKE HIM MORE?

It's crazy...unless you like crooked of course.

You have absolutely zero self awareness! :lol3:

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Rock N' Roll Right Winger
2 hours ago, AntonToo said:

No one accused Bolton of being a liar, and yes, he quit or was fired before.

And it's not as if it's in a vacuum, what he says of Trump's behavior is supported by a lot of other testimony. Trump was IMPEACHED for exactly the pattern of mixing conduct of foreign policy and personal interests that Bolton describes.

:bs:

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Rock N' Roll Right Winger
2 hours ago, AntonToo said:

I meant before now and he has had a long career.

Mike Pompeo is a current administration member and is directly involved in Trump's self-serving foreign policy schemes (see Sondland's testimony), of course he will (or give appearance of) deny this swamp.

Self serving?

How?

Not that I expect any truthful substantive answer outta you? :lol:

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Rock N' Roll Right Winger
2 hours ago, AntonToo said:

All that listing and not a peep about the obvious self serving foreign policy scheme Trump was IMPEACHED for?

Weird how your process works, eh?

 

But let me just say that Trump has had a long love affair with Russia, so it's not surprizing that he descided to find a way to feud with NATO members as part of his foreign policy.

And then there is Turkey, but lets leave that hot potato for another post.

YOU LIE.

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MontyPython
2 hours ago, AntonToo said:

You really think this possible duplicity is even in the same universe of Trump illegally holding up Congressionally aproved millitary aid to Ukraine to foce it's president to go on TV an announce investigations into Biden?

Politicians sometimes conduct policy midful of political outcomes for themselves, obviously, but thats very different from what and how Trump has been doing.

:thud: 

Wow. Just wow. You really don't pay anything resembling attention to real-life, do you? Talk about getting everything exactly backwards.

And look, you won't take a reading-comprehension course. You won't take a basic math course. You won't pay honest attention to real-life politics. Fine. Will you AT LEAST take a spelling class?

"Congressionally"

"aproved"

"millitary"

"foce"

"midful"

"thats"

You get an "F"

(Just curious - Can you spell F?)

:giggle:

 

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ThePatriot
2 hours ago, Novaprime said:

Not taking Bolton's side but his 'team' did tweet out last night that he was not voting for Biden either. Rather, he would be writing in an appropriate candidate.

That makes a lot more sense.

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mliff1

Probably himself. What an asshat. Why don't you just keep it to your self Michael errrr John Bolton. "I prefer to be called Mike".....

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Ticked@TinselTown
5 hours ago, Ladybird said:

So stupid people watch the MSM.  That was never a secret.

They're still eating piles of bullsh*t with two large spoons sans salt and pepper.

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AntonToo
Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, Dutch13 said:

That didn't happen.....yet Obama did force that same country to fire someone they disagreed with to get approved loan guarantees.  How is Trump NOT forcing Ukraine to do anything on his behalf for money WORSE than Obama actually forcing Ukraine to do something for money?!?!?!?

Did Obama ever give Ukraine any MILITARY aid?   I don't think he did.......probably because of those promises to made to Vladamir of flexibility.  

Ridiculous, you don’t know what flexibility they talked about. You take one phrase with absolutely no understanding of the context and just run with it.

US, EU, IMF and corruption watch groups wanted Ukrainian prosecutor removed for lining his pockets while refusing to prosecute the rich and powerful in Ukraine.

United States exerting pressure on Ukrainian government to remove this guy was GOOD FOREIGN POLICY and a necessary move to get Ukraine to start to clean up it’s corrupt act. 


Read up: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/trump-endorses-ukraines-swamp-monster-prosecutor-viktor-shokin

 

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zurg
10 minutes ago, AntonToo said:

Ridiculous

:clap: This is the first time ever I've seen you spell the word correctly.

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JerryL
9 hours ago, AntonToo said:

You really think this possible duplicity is even in the same universe of Trump illegally holding up Congressionally aproved millitary aid to Ukraine to foce it's president to go on TV an announce investigations into Biden?

Politicians sometimes conduct policy midful of political outcomes for themselves, obviously, but thats very different from what and how Trump has been doing.

Who cares.  That never happened.  That is made up BS.  There is NO ONE who has testified first hand knowledge of anything even close to that.

Can you post proof?  How about simply evidence backed up by something other than Sondland's imagination?

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AntonToo
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6 minutes ago, JerryL said:

Who cares.  That never happened.  That is made up BS.  There is NO ONE who has testified first hand knowledge of anything even close to that.

...well thats because Republicans blocked testimony by Mulvaney (who publicly admitted the hold up of millitary aid was to pressure Ukraine for investigation) and Bolton, who directly tells in his book that he first hand heard Trump refusing to release aid untill Ukraine announced investigation of Bidens.

Sondland testified that everyone involved understood that Trump was pressing for this corrupt quid-pro-quo.

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Ticked@TinselTown
1 hour ago, zurg said:

:clap: This is the first time ever I've seen you spell the word correctly.

Never let it be said that giving Word of the Day toilet paper as a Christmas present does NOT have an effect over time... 

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JerryL
23 minutes ago, AntonToo said:

...well thats because Republicans blocked testimony by Mulvaney (who publicly admitted the hold up of millitary aid was to pressure Ukraine for investigation) and Bolton, who directly tells in his book that he first hand heard Trump refusing to release aid untill Ukraine announced investigation of Bidens.

Sondland testified that everyone involved understood that Trump was pressing for this corrupt quid-pro-quo.

You mean the people that the House never subpoenaed to testify when they did their investigation to build their bogus case? 

Bolton can write whatever he wants.  Its not under oath and he is a bitter bean, one who thinks he is among the smartest people on the planet, and he can't understand why Trump didn't recognize his brilliance and, instead, fired him.  No one backs him up in that assertion in anything resembling "under oath," including the President of the Ukraine.

Sondland also testified that all of that came directly out of his own head.  His belief.  His perception.  Nothing more.  Where did "everyone involved (that) understood" get that understanding?  From Sondland!!  Sondland got it from fairies, apparently.

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AntonToo
Posted (edited)
25 minutes ago, JerryL said:

You mean the people that the House never subpoenaed to testify when they did their investigation to build their bogus case? 

Bolton ignored House subpoena, but was willing to testify in the Senate. Senate Republicans blocked him from testifying. There was only a handful of Republicans required for Bolton to testify and you know why those Republicans blocked it? Because they admitted that no further testimony is required, that it was obvious that Trump behaved exactly as Article I, and Bolton's book said he did. That Trump pretty much confessed to it on the White House lawn, when he publicly asked Ukraine and China to investigate Bidens.

....to them I say - have you ever met the people in Trump's base? 🤦‍♂️

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zurg
3 minutes ago, AntonToo said:

Bolton ignored House subpoena, but was willing to testify in the Senate. Senate Republicans blocked him from testifying. There was only a handful of Republicans required for Bolton to testify and you know why those Republicans blocked it, because they admitted that what further testimony is not required, that it was obvious that Trump behaved exactly as Article I, and Bolton's book said he did.

To them I say - have you ever met the people in Trump's base?

Ah, so senate republicans blocked the truth from coming out, that Trump handled Ukraine corruptly, even though the phone call was publicly disclosed word for word, and House democrats had ample opportunity to call all manner of witnesses, and the ones they did call suddenly (when under oath) could not recall any wrongdoing by Trump, yet still the democrats started an impeachment proceeding and impeached Trump in the most partisan vote ever.

However, in the same universe, various Obama administration officials and the Obama FBI operatives and Obama himself, according to Anton, did NOT, repeat did NOT block the truth from coming out, that Hillary handled her bathroom server corruptly, all the while 30,000 emails plus phones plus other personal devices were destroyed and could not be used as evidence and no special investigation was started by said Obama controlled officials, yet still the democrats declared that the issue was investigated and nothing improper was found.

Truly I say: have you ever met the sycophants that inhabit the democrat establishment? They're one heck of a sight of hypocrisy.

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AntonToo
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30 minutes ago, zurg said:

Ah, so senate republicans blocked the truth from coming out, that Trump handled Ukraine corruptly, even though the phone call was publicly disclosed word for word, and House democrats had ample opportunity to call all manner of witnesses, and the ones they did call suddenly (when under oath) could not recall any wrongdoing by Trump, yet still the democrats started an impeachment proceeding and impeached Trump in the most partisan vote ever.

However, in the same universe, various Obama administration officials and the Obama FBI operatives and Obama himself, according to Anton, did NOT, repeat did NOT block the truth from coming out, that Hillary handled her bathroom server corruptly, all the while 30,000 emails plus phones plus other personal devices were destroyed and could not be used as evidence and no special investigation was started by said Obama controlled officials, yet still the democrats declared that the issue was investigated and nothing improper was found.

Truly I say: have you ever met the sycophants that inhabit the democrat establishment? They're one heck of a sight of hypocrisy.

A bag full of wrong wrong and wrong again.

Sondland was the only person who direcctly dealt with Trump on UIkraine that testified as the law requires and he in no uncertain terms said that quid-pro-quo was true, that everything was conditioned by Trump on announcement of investigations into Bidens and that everyone directly involved knew it.

Bolton knew it (as Bolton confirms).

Pompeo knew it.

Mulvaney knew it (and admitted publicly).

Guliani knew it.

All of these people were subpoened, all these people were being blocked from testifying by the administration, none of these people Republicans had any interest in hearing from.

 

Democrats thought they had what they needed to make their case without tying up the subpoena disputes in courts for a year. They were right, as a number of Republicans admitted that Article I accusations were already proven and require no further witness testimony.

 

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JerryL
53 minutes ago, AntonToo said:

Bolton ignored House subpoena, but was willing to testify in the Senate. Senate Republicans blocked him from testifying. There was only a handful of Republicans required for Bolton to testify and you know why those Republicans blocked it? Because they admitted that no further testimony is required, that it was obvious that Trump behaved exactly as Article I, and Bolton's book said he did. That Trump pretty much confessed to it on the White House lawn, when he publicly asked Ukraine and China to investigate Bidens.

....to them I say - have you ever met the people in Trump's base? 🤦‍♂️

Then the house should have compelled.  One would think that someone who feels the way he professes to feel about DJT would have jumped at the chance to provide first hand evidence to have him removed from office.  Seems like lining his pockets with statements not made under oath was more important.  In any case, the House not following through is no one's fault but their own. 

They didn't get the votes to call additional witnesses in the Senate because it is not the Senate's job to do what the House should of done and didn't do.  Your read on why more of the people who "just knew he was guilty" didn't vote for more witnesses is noted for what it is.  Your opinion. 

Here is what Trump said that you say he publicly asked Ukraine and China to investigate."  Link

“China should start an investigation into the Bidens, because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened with Ukraine,” Mr. Trump told reporters as he left the White House to travel to Florida."  

First, this is a statement of opinion given to the press.  He didn't ask for anything, let alone ask China or the Ukraine.  He didn't link compliance to anything.  He made a statement.  So what?  

Then look what the dishonest NYT does.  They add:  "His request came just moments after he discussed upcoming trade talks with China and said that “if they don’t do what we want, we have tremendous power.”  He talked trade with the Chinese.  He didn't ask the Chinese to investigate.  But that doesn't stop the NYT from implying that he did and then further imply that he will punish them if they don't.  Maybe Sondland had another "perception" and shared that with them?  

But, to them I say - the moronic Democrat base will buy it without question.  

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AntonToo
Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, JerryL said:

Then the house should have compelled.

No they should not have. It would take at least 6 months, take impeachment process straight into the Covid-19 mess and election, and for what?

Even among 8 Republicans that admitted Trump is guilty exactly as Article I described only 1 considered Trump's abuse of office necessitating removal by Congress.

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JerryL
48 minutes ago, AntonToo said:

A bag full of wrong wrong and wrong again.

Sondland was the only person who direcctly dealt with Trump on UIkraine that testified as the law requires and he in no uncertain terms said that quid-pro-quo was true, that everything was conditioned by Trump on announcement of investigations into Bidens and that everyone directly involved knew it.

 

Except Sondland testified that he heard that from no one.  Not the President.  Not anyone.  It was his presumption.

Let him tell you himself.

Sondland speaking without the Antoon Interpreter word changing device.

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AntonToo
Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, JerryL said:

Except Sondland testified that he heard that from no one.  Not the President.  Not anyone.  It was his presumption.

Let him tell you himself.

Sondland speaking without the Antoon Interpreter word changing device.

BS. Trump did not explicitly say it to Sondland, but Guliani made damn clear to Sondland what the President wants.

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