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Yes America, there is voter fraud. These recent cases prove it.

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kestrel

 Weren't we sternly lectured that there is no significant voter fraud?...Just another right wing fantasy!

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justthenews.com

Yes America, there is voter fraud. These recent cases prove it.

By John Solomon Updated: July 25, 2020 - 8:56pm

Many news media, political activists and social media giants have gotten on the bandwagon that voter fraud is fiction. It is not.

A review of court cases and recent indictments – including one this week in Philadelphia against a former congressman – finds there have been at least four dozen cases in criminal and civil court since the last presidential election in 2016 in which voter fraud has led to charges, convictions, lawsuits or plea deals.  

The schemes have ranged from old fashion ballot box stuffing to absentee and mail-in ballot fraud.

Here are a dozen of the more egregious examples.

Philly Fraud Case Expands

The U.S. Justice Department this past week charged former Democratic congressman Michael Myers with stuffing ballot boxes, bribing an elected official, falsifying records, obstructing justice and voting multiple times in federal elections in Philadelphia.

Myers was the second official charged in the scheme.

Domenick DeMuro, a Democratic ward chairman in that city, admitted in a plea deal that he had "fraudulently stuffed the ballot box by literally standing in a voting booth and voting over and over, as fast as he could, while he thought the coast was clear," ptoecutors  said. 

DeMuro allegedly had a network of clients who paid him significant sums of money to rig elections over several years. 

New Jersey mail-in ballot scheme exposed

Four New Jersey residents, including one city council member and one city councilmen-elect in Patterson, N.J., were charged last month in what state officials was a mail-in ballot fraud scheme. The four were charged with multiple crimes including voting fraud, tampering with public records and unauthorized possession of multiple vote-by-mail ballots. 

West Virginia mail carrier nabbed in mail-in ballot scheme

A mail carrier in Pendleton County, W.V., recently admitted to investigators that he altered mail-in voting ballot documents. The U.S. Attorney's Office of the Northern District of West Virginia said in a press release in June that it was charging Thomas Cooper, a worker with the U.S. Postal Service, with "attempted election fraud." 

An affidavit supplied by that office to Just the News states the Pendleton County Clerk received several absentee mail-in ballot requests "in which the voter’s party-ballot request appeared to have been altered by use of a black-ink pen." On five of the requests, "it appeared that the voters ballot choice was changed from Democrat to Republican

California voter fraud conviction exposes Skid Row scheme

In February, 62-year-old Norman Hall pled guilty in a scheme to pay money and cigarettes to homeless people on Los Angeles’ Skid Row in exchange for false and forged signatures on ballot petitions and voter registration forms. Hall got a year in jail.

Illinois let non-citizens register to vote in blunder

In January, Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White disclosed in a letter to the Legislature that a “programming error” in a signature pad at driver services facilities led to 574 non-U.S. citizens accidentally being registered as voters. At least one, and perhaps as many as 15, non-citizens may have voted in the 2018 election. White’s office says the problem has been fixed.

“We view it as a significant problem,” Matt Dietrich of the Illinois State Board Of Elections said at the time.

Alabama Absentee Fraud

In 2019,  former Gordon, Ala., Mayor Elbert Melton was convicted of absentee ballot fraud in a mayoral race he won by just 16 votes. 

Melton was sentenced recently to one year in prison and two years of probation after his conviction on charges of absentee ballot fraud and second-degree theft of property.

Pay-to-Vote Scheme exposed in New Jersey

New Jersey real estate developer Frank Raia, 67, a Democrat, was convicted in 2019 of overseeing a scheme to pay low-income residents in Hoboken’s subsidized housing $50 for their votes in the 2013 election.

Wisconsin county supervisor admits to ballot fraud

Former Milwaukee County Supervisor Peggy West, 47, pleaded guilty in 2018 to election fraud for falsifying signatures on petitions to qualify for the spring election.

Prosecutors said several people whose names appear on West's nomination petition told a detective they never signed. Two even said the printed name next to their bogus signatures were not spelled correctly.

Absentee Ballot Theft in Florida

In 2018, authorities arrested Florida man Bret Warren after they determined he had stolen five absentee ballots and fraudulently voted with them. Warren eventually pled no contest to two charges of false swearing in connection with voting.

Wife of mayoral candidate nabbed in New Mexico

In 2018, New Mexico authorities indicted Laura Seeds on 13 counts of voter fraud related to her husband's 2016 mayoral race. Seeds was eventually convicted in part for illegally possessing two absentee voter ballots; her husband Robert won the race by two votes. 

Indiana cop convicted of voter fraud to help father win race

In 2016, Indiana police officer Lowell Colen was convicted of absentee ballot fraud in an attempt to help his father win a city council election. Colen eventually pled guilty to four felony counts of voter fraud, with prosecutors claiming he filled out false registrations and forged numerous signatures. 

Double voting in Arizona

Last month, Randy Allen Jumper pleaded guilty in Arizona to attempting to vote in two states during the 2016 general election: Arizona and Nevada. He was also charged with falsely signing a statement vowing  not to vote in the general election anywhere but Arizona.

Arizona officials said at the time of his plea they have brough about 20 cases of voter fraud in the last decade against people who tried to vote in two states in the same election.

LINK:  https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/yes-america-there-voter-fraud-these-recent-cases-prove-it

 

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ThePatriot

Here's the thing - all reasonable people KNOW there is voter fraud, and they are all watching the leftwing lunatic Democrats LIE THROUGH THEIR TEETH and claim there is no such thing.

They keep digging their own graves, and now they've nominated Dementia Joe the Biggest Idiot Democrats Ever Nominated to be their standard bearer!  :rofl:

Trump 

Wins 

2nd Term

In a

Landslide!

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Howsithangin

They're all outliers!  :razz:

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Italian Biker

Is someone going to post charts and graphs trying to prove that any fraud can't change any results?

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AntonToo
Posted (edited)
10 hours ago, kestrel said:

Last month, Randy Allen Jumper pleaded guilty in Arizona to attempting to vote in two states during the 2016 general election: Arizona and Nevada. He was also charged with falsely signing a statement vowing  not to vote in the general election anywhere but Arizona.

Arizona officials said at the time of his plea they have brough about 20 cases of voter fraud in the last decade

20 cases in a decade? Hoolly crap thats significant.

We need to pass more voter ID laws because...well ok, not because of any of these cases since none of them have to do with impersonation fraud.

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Natural Selection
24 minutes ago, AntonToo said:

20 cases in a decade? Hoolly crap thats significant.

Attorney General Gurbir S. Grewal today announced voting fraud charges against Paterson City Councilman Michael Jackson, Councilman-Elect Alex Mendez, and two other men in connection with the May 12, 2020 special election in the City of Paterson.

All four men are charged with criminal conduct involving mail-in ballots during the election.  The investigation by the Attorney General’s Office of Public Integrity & Accountability (OPIA) began when the U.S. Postal Inspection Service alerted the Attorney General’s Office that hundreds of mail-in ballots were found in a mailbox in Paterson.  Numerous additional ballots were found in a mailbox in nearby Haledon.  Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, all voting in May 12 elections in New Jersey was done by mail-in ballots.

(link to the rest of Anton's "insignificant" fraud)

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AntonToo
1 minute ago, Natural Selection said:

Attorney General Gurbir S. Grewal today announced voting fraud charges against Paterson City Councilman Michael Jackson, Councilman-Elect Alex Mendez, and two other men in connection with the May 12, 2020 special election in the City of Paterson.

All four men are charged with criminal conduct involving mail-in ballots during the election.  The investigation by the Attorney General’s Office of Public Integrity & Accountability (OPIA) began when the U.S. Postal Inspection Service alerted the Attorney General’s Office that hundreds of mail-in ballots were found in a mailbox in Paterson.  Numerous additional ballots were found in a mailbox in nearby Haledon.  Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, all voting in May 12 elections in New Jersey was done by mail-in ballots.

(link to the rest of Anton's "insignificant" fraud)

Need more ID laws, clearly.

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Howsithangin
2 minutes ago, AntonToo said:

Need more ID laws, clearly.

the real question is not why we need them, but why you and yours fear them

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Natural Selection
4 minutes ago, AntonToo said:

Need more ID laws, clearly.

From the California Secretary of State website:

How will I identify myself when registering to vote?
The voter registration application asks for your driver license or California identification card number, or you can use the last four numbers on your Social Security card. If you do not have a driver license, California identification card or Social Security card, you may leave that space blank. Your county elections official will assign a number to you that will be used to identify you as a voter.

(link)

Do you see the opportunity for illegal immigrants to vote? Do you see the opportunity for one person to register multiple times?

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AntonToo
Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, Howsithangin said:

the real question is not why we need them, but why you and yours fear them

I'm against politicos puting obsticles to voting for their personal electoral gain, selling it under falsehoods about voter fraud that supposedly needs to be solved.

Impersonation fraud is very rare and keeping some people from voting because they don't have just the right kind of ID on the day of vote is itself considerably larger problem.

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AntonToo
Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, Natural Selection said:

From the California Secretary of State website:

How will I identify myself when registering to vote?
The voter registration application asks for your driver license or California identification card number, or you can use the last four numbers on your Social Security card. If you do not have a driver license, California identification card or Social Security card, you may leave that space blank. Your county elections official will assign a number to you that will be used to identify you as a voter.

(link)

Do you see the opportunity for illegal immigrants to vote? Do you see the opportunity for one person to register multiple times?

Whats wrong with illegals voting in local elections if it's not against the law?

And how do ID laws solve being on multiple voting rolls?

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Natural Selection
2 minutes ago, AntonToo said:

I'm against politicos puting obsticles to voting for their personal electoral gain, selling it under falsehoods about voter fraud that supposedly needs to be solved.

Impersonation fraud is very rare and keeping some people from voting because they don't have just the right kind of ID on the day of vote is iotself considerably larger problem.

How do we know that? Democrats are preventing anyone from looking at the problem.

Dem state officials refusing to cooperate with Trump voter fraud probe

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Natural Selection
Just now, AntonToo said:

Whats wrong with illegals voting in local elections if it's not against the law?

What prevents those illegals from voting in a national election after they're registered?

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zurg

Also, to any clearly thinking honest person (this description obviously excludes Anton) these are certified examples of voter fraud, and the actual number CANNOT be lower. 

The only question is, how much higher is actual fraud than the cases caught? 

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Natural Selection
6 minutes ago, AntonToo said:

And how do ID laws solve being on multiple voting rolls?

Read the California registration rules again. A person can walk in there with zero ID and they will assign him a number for voter identification. What would stop that person from going to another registration location and doing the same thing and being assigned a second number for voter identification?

I'll tell you what would stop that. An ID requirement for voter registration.

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AntonToo
Posted (edited)
17 minutes ago, Natural Selection said:

What prevents those illegals from voting in a national election after they're registered?

In your registration you must, under threat of perjury, specify that you are an American citizen and are not voting in any other state. If you don't, you are not elgible to vote on state and federal level.

But all that is on registration side and has nothing to do with ID laws.

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Natural Selection
18 minutes ago, AntonToo said:

In your registration you must, under threat of perjury, specify that you are an American citizen and are not voting in any other state. If you don't, you are not elgible to vote on state and federal level.

But all that is on registration side and has nothing to do with ID laws.

So, it's the honor system? :rofl:

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AntonToo
Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, Natural Selection said:

So, it's the honor system? :rofl:

You don't go to jail for dishonering yourself.

I'm not against document requirements on the registration side where you have time to figure things out. What I'm against is crude ID laws that are about very specific documentation on the voting day.

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Natural Selection
7 minutes ago, AntonToo said:

You don't go to jail for dishonering yourself.

I'm not against document requirements on the registration side where you have time to figure things out. What I'm against is crude ID laws that are about very specific documentation on the voting day.

Are you talking about the "crude ID laws" that those same potentially disenfranchised voters use to collect their welfare benefits, along with countless other aspects of their lives?

voterID.jpg

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AntonToo
Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, Natural Selection said:

Are you talking about the "crude ID laws" that those same potentially disenfranchised voters use to collect their welfare benefits, along with countless other aspects of their lives?

voterID.jpg

Ridiculous. Voting, unlike alcohol buying, is a fundamental right.

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Natural Selection
1 minute ago, AntonToo said:

Ridiculous. Voting, unlike alcohol buying, is fundamental right.

Now do "buying a gun".

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Natural Selection
14 minutes ago, AntonToo said:

Ridiculous. Voting, unlike alcohol buying, is a fundamental right.

According to our Constitution (paraphrased):

The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, previous condition of servitude, sex, failure to pay poll tax or other tax, or account of age.

There is nothing to prevent the government from requiring identification.

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mjperry51
16 minutes ago, AntonToo said:

Ridiculous. Voting, unlike alcohol buying, is a fundamental right.

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The right to vote: Implicit or merely privilege?

Since the U.S. Constitution and the U.S. Supreme Court both point to state law regarding voting rights, it is up to the individual state to determine how it wants to distribute those voting rights. Noah Millman, political columnist for The Week, believes that because there is no constitutional right to vote, the right is treated as a privilege. He argues: “So long as the Constitution presumes that the franchise is a privilege rather than a right, something that states may legitimately seek to limit so long as they don’t do so in certain specified ways or for certain explicit reasons, there will always be a legitimate basis for upholding laws that impose such limits.” 

Because states are permitted to restrict the right to vote—making it seem more like a privilege than a right—there is a large class of people across the United States who lose their voting rights: convicted felons. Each state carries the weight of responsibility for determining if a felon or ex-felon can or cannot vote, therefore voter disenfranchisement varies across the country. 

 

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rustinone
2 hours ago, AntonToo said:

Ridiculous. Voting, unlike alcohol buying, is a fundamental right.

 

2 hours ago, Natural Selection said:

Now do "buying a gun".

Exactly!

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kestrel
2 hours ago, AntonToo said:

You don't go to jail for dishonering yourself.

I'm not against document requirements on the registration side where you have time to figure things out. What I'm against is crude ID laws that are about very specific documentation on the voting day.

"You don't go to jail for dishonering yourself." Or you'd be doing life without parole

"where you have time to figure things out" So minorities are too stupid and lazy to "figure things out"? even though voting day in November has been..well in November for 200 years? If minorities are as mentally deficient as you claim then how do they find their way to the Welfare office (and produce ID to get Food Stamps or assistance..Tell ya what Bro I don't think I want to deal with your Systemic Racism of low expectations any more..unless you stop it you're going on ignore..Last warning from me...now back to the basement cuz Mom will be home from work any minute 

Kestrel...

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